I-751 additional evidence requested. What to send

[sooka 0]

Hello,

I have filed I-751 on January 2006 at VSC, and today I have received the letter requesting additional evidence.

Now, I really dont know what I should send, because I have sent every documents that we can think of at

initial filing such as,

Joint tax returns

Joint Bank statement

Joint health insurance card

Bills addressed to both our name

Tickets for our trips

Many pictures of us

etc.

I simply do not understand what more evidence they want.

I heard that sometimes they request additional evidence simply because documents are detached from the application and be lost. So, should I just send the copy of what I filed already and add this year's tax return and some more pictures even though they stated in the letter not to send the documents that we previously filed?

Also, even our additional evidence was not enough, do we still get a chance to be interviewed?

I am very worried because we rent our apartment and it's under my husband name, also we dont own car, we dont have kids, so we really dont have any more joint properties that we can show as an evidence.

I will be appreciated for any advise.

Thank you for reading this.

[Sweetgirl 0]

Hello,

I have filed I-751 on January 2006 at VSC, and today I have received the letter requesting additional evidence.

Now, I really dont know what I should send, because I have sent every documents that we can think of at

initial filing such as,

Joint tax returns

Joint Bank statement

Joint health insurance card

Bills addressed to both our name

Tickets for our trips

Many pictures of us

etc.

I simply do not understand what more evidence they want.

I heard that sometimes they request additional evidence simply because documents are detached from the application and be lost. So, should I just send the copy of what I filed already and add this year's tax return and some more pictures even though they stated in the letter not to send the documents that we previously filed?

Also, even our additional evidence was not enough, do we still get a chance to be interviewed?

I am very worried because we rent our apartment and it's under my husband name, also we dont own car, we dont have kids, so we really dont have any more joint properties that we can show as an evidence.

I will be appreciated for any advise.

Thank you for reading this.

Hi! I have a question. Did you look at the letter attentively? Are you sure that this is not a yellow colour letter where it states that the officer hasnt reviewed your file yet and if you think that you should send an additonal evidence ,you may do so now. Also does this letter asks you to attach thr Original Conditional Card to the bottom of the Letter? If this is that kind of letter ,you shouldnt worry about anything just attach the Conditional Card to the Letter and mail it back to them and no additionla eveidence is required.

If this is some other kind of letter i would suggest to you to include the 3 or 4 Affidavits from the friends ,parents who can assure that they personally know you as a couple and etc.. and that your marriage is real. You forgot to inlcude them ,bu tthis is a very important piece of evidence.Attach the pictues whree you ,your husband and friends and parents who wrote an Affidavits together and etc...

Inlcude some phone bills as,homephones ,cellphones bills on both names ,utility bills: gas,water,electricity .Any postcards from your common friends and etc...

Hope this will help and make sure that you haven't received a yellow colour letter.

Best wishes.

Sincerely.,

Hello,

I have filed I-751 on January 2006 at VSC, and today I have received the letter requesting additional evidence.

Now, I really dont know what I should send, because I have sent every documents that we can think of at

initial filing such as,

Joint tax returns

Joint Bank statement

Joint health insurance card

Bills addressed to both our name

Tickets for our trips

Many pictures of us

etc.

I simply do not understand what more evidence they want.

I heard that sometimes they request additional evidence simply because documents are detached from the application and be lost. So, should I just send the copy of what I filed already and add this year's tax return and some more pictures even though they stated in the letter not to send the documents that we previously filed?

Also, even our additional evidence was not enough, do we still get a chance to be interviewed?

I am very worried because we rent our apartment and it's under my husband name, also we dont own car, we dont have kids, so we really dont have any more joint properties that we can show as an evidence.

I will be appreciated for any advise.

Thank you for reading this.

Hi! I have a question. Did you look at the letter attentively? Are you sure that this is not a yellow colour letter where it states that the officer hasnt reviewed your file yet and if you think that you should send an additonal evidence ,you may do so now. Also does this letter asks you to attach thr Original Conditional Card to the bottom of the Letter? If this is that kind of letter ,you shouldnt worry about anything just attach the Conditional Card to the Letter and mail it back to them and no additionla eveidence is required.

If this is some other kind of letter i would suggest to you to include the 3 or 4 Affidavits from the friends ,parents who can assure that they personally know you as a couple and etc.. and that your marriage is real. You forgot to inlcude them ,bu tthis is a very important piece of evidence.Attach the pictues whree you ,your husband and friends and parents who wrote an Affidavits together and etc...

Inlcude some phone bills as,homephones ,cellphones bills on both names ,utility bills: gas,water,electricity .Any postcards from your common friends and etc...

Hope this will help and make sure that you haven't received a yellow colour letter.

Best wishes.

Sincerely.,

[Kathryn41 3,205]

Hello,

I have filed I-751 on January 2006 at VSC, and today I have received the letter requesting additional evidence.

Now, I really dont know what I should send, because I have sent every documents that we can think of at

initial filing such as,

Joint tax returns

Joint Bank statement

Joint health insurance card

Bills addressed to both our name

Tickets for our trips

Many pictures of us

etc.

I simply do not understand what more evidence they want.

I heard that sometimes they request additional evidence simply because documents are detached from the application and be lost. So, should I just send the copy of what I filed already and add this year's tax return and some more pictures even though they stated in the letter not to send the documents that we previously filed?

Also, even our additional evidence was not enough, do we still get a chance to be interviewed?

I am very worried because we rent our apartment and it's under my husband name, also we dont own car, we dont have kids, so we really dont have any more joint properties that we can show as an evidence.

I will be appreciated for any advise.

Thank you for reading this.

How about asking your landlord to write a letter stating that the two of you live there together. Ask your neighbours if they would write a letter that they know you are both living at the same address. If you haven't done so, prepare your wills naming each as your spouse and beneficiary of the estate. You could each be the executor of each other's wills too. Send this year's tax return and send more photographs of you two together doing things with friends and family. Do you have pets? Send pictures with your pets together. Do you have life insurance policies naming each other as beneficiaries, or retirement plans through work naming each other as beneficiary. Do you have joint credit cards as statements showing both of your expenditures with the card work. Write a cover letter and explain that you don't have a car or children and rent an apartment. Do you have both of your names printed on personal checks? These are some suggestions that come to mind. I would think that if they have questions you would get an interview, and if you have enough documentary evidence of your relationship that you would be approved without an interview. Good luck.

[I'm Gone 60]

Just wondering what did you use to assemble your packet? Did you follow the suggested instructions?

[sooka 0]

Just wondering what did you use to assemble your packet? Did you follow the suggested instructions?

Hello,

Thank you everybody for giving an great advise.

My letter is not yellow one, it`s blue one that requests more evidence to support the petition.

So, I guess the documents I submitted was not enough to get approved.

I submitted 2years Tax return transcript, joint checking account statement, joint health insurance card, marriage certificate, State ID showing same address, cellphone bill address to both our name, flight tickets for our trips, Pictures.

I didnt send the affidavit letter because I didnt think that it was that important that time, but I guess actually they are.

My husaband is going to have his mother and sister and friend write them for us.

As for another evidence, I will ask my landlord to write a letter to prove that we live together as you sujested.

Also, we have a dog together, so I will send the pictures of us three too.

We lived together even before we got married, so we dont relly have joint utility bill other than cellphone,

It`s like homephone bill is on my name, cable and electricity are on my husband`s name, so as for the utility bill I dont have anything else to send.

So, I will resubmit copies of the documents I have already submitted plus affidavit letters and letters from landlord, this year`s tax return, and lots of photos.

I hope they are enough.

BTW, In the RFE letter, it stated the example of documents that I can submit, such as tax return, bills, etc. then, there is this clause "affdavits should be supported, if possible, by one or more types of documentary evidence listed above"

Would you please somebody explain to me what that means? Does that mean it has to be notarized? or they also have to submit tax return or some sort?

I thought all they have to do is write a letter and have them notarized, but now I am really confused.

Thank you again.

[pallyn 0]

Did any of the people who are writing the letters send or give you holiday cards and do you have the envelopes from those cards, addressed to you both? Maybe you could try sending copies of the cards and the accompanying envelope with the affadavit letters.

The cellphone brings up another suggestion. If your bill comes with an itemization that shows the numbers called and calls received, start going through it. Circle or highlight the calls you made to each other's cell phones and the calls from each cell phone to your home phone.

Good Luck!

Hello,

Thank you everybody for giving an great advise.

My letter is not yellow one, it`s blue one that requests more evidence to support the petition.

So, I guess the documents I submitted was not enough to get approved.

I submitted 2years Tax return transcript, joint checking account statement, joint health insurance card, marriage certificate, State ID showing same address, cellphone bill address to both our name, flight tickets for our trips, Pictures.

I didnt send the affidavit letter because I didnt think that it was that important that time, but I guess actually they are.

My husaband is going to have his mother and sister and friend write them for us.

As for another evidence, I will ask my landlord to write a letter to prove that we live together as you sujested.

Also, we have a dog together, so I will send the pictures of us three too.

We lived together even before we got married, so we dont relly have joint utility bill other than cellphone,

It`s like homephone bill is on my name, cable and electricity are on my husband`s name, so as for the utility bill I dont have anything else to send.

So, I will resubmit copies of the documents I have already submitted plus affidavit letters and letters from landlord, this year`s tax return, and lots of photos.

I hope they are enough.

BTW, In the RFE letter, it stated the example of documents that I can submit, such as tax return, bills, etc. then, there is this clause "affdavits should be supported, if possible, by one or more types of documentary evidence listed above"

Would you please somebody explain to me what that means? Does that mean it has to be notarized? or they also have to submit tax return or some sort?

I thought all they have to do is write a letter and have them notarized, but now I am really confused.

Thank you again.

[Sweetgirl 0]

Just wondering what did you use to assemble your packet? Did you follow the suggested instructions?

Hello,

Thank you everybody for giving an great advise.

My letter is not yellow one, it`s blue one that requests more evidence to support the petition.

So, I guess the documents I submitted was not enough to get approved.

I submitted 2years Tax return transcript, joint checking account statement, joint health insurance card, marriage certificate, State ID showing same address, cellphone bill address to both our name, flight tickets for our trips, Pictures.

I didnt send the affidavit letter because I didnt think that it was that important that time, but I guess actually they are.

My husaband is going to have his mother and sister and friend write them for us.

As for another evidence, I will ask my landlord to write a letter to prove that we live together as you sujested.

Also, we have a dog together, so I will send the pictures of us three too.

We lived together even before we got married, so we dont relly have joint utility bill other than cellphone,

It`s like homephone bill is on my name, cable and electricity are on my husband`s name, so as for the utility bill I dont have anything else to send.

So, I will resubmit copies of the documents I have already submitted plus affidavit letters and letters from landlord, this year`s tax return, and lots of photos.

I hope they are enough.

BTW, In the RFE letter, it stated the example of documents that I can submit, such as tax return, bills, etc. then, there is this clause "affdavits should be supported, if possible, by one or more types of documentary evidence listed above"

Would you please somebody explain to me what that means? Does that mean it has to be notarized? or they also have to submit tax return or some sort?

I thought all they have to do is write a letter and have them notarized, but now I am really confused.

Thank you again.

HI! Well,Generally what they say is that the affidavits should be notarized. But when we have filed my I-751 we have included the 7 Affidaviits total where one of them was from my husband and one of them was from me and the other five were from the friends and parents. You dont have to notarize them ,just make sure that the people who write them sign them.

Begin to write all of them with:

AFFIDAVIT OF SUPPORT OF PETITION TO REMOVE CONDITIONS ON PERMANENT RESIDENCY FOR...

name ........

Dear Sir/Madam,

My name is..........I am ........

I was born...........

My adress is.........

Phone............

I am a Co-petitioner ........of the .........

BACKGROUND:.

Whoever writes it should breafly write about himself/herself............

PURPOSE OF THE AFFIDAVIT:

whoever gonna write it should confirm that the marriage was entered in good faith between two and they wanna give a testimony and that the information written in this affidavit and below is true and correct to their best actual knowledge.

RELEVANT FACTS:

Here whoever gonna write it should describe his/her relation to you and to your husband.

How he/she met you ,when,how did you spend time together and etc....

Dont forget that the person who writes it should sign the affidavit at the end.

P.S.. I dont think you should include the copies of the the previous evidence as they already have that and they are just waiting for you to send them the new peaces of evidence.

Best wishes.

Sincerely.

[meauxna 15]

BTW, In the RFE letter, it stated the example of documents that I can submit, such as tax return, bills, etc. then, there is this clause "affdavits should be supported, if possible, by one or more types of documentary evidence listed above"

Would you please somebody explain to me what that means? Does that mean it has to be notarized? or they also have to submit tax return or some sort?

I thought all they have to do is write a letter and have them notarized, but now I am really confused.

Thank you again.

The affidavits will be that much stronger if they have backup evidence.

example (no idea how good this is, just the way my mind works)....

You mentioned the dog. Are both of you on the vet's records (I added my DAH to my vet's account)? Have either/both of you taken the dog to the vet? My vet has visited with us both (she's interested in England where my hub is from) and i'd not hesitate to ask her to write a factual affidavit about her knowing us as a family. That affidavit, with a copy of the vet record cover sheet showing both names, would be an affidavit + evidence. Throw the photo in for a good touch and now it's much stronger, see?

For the affidavits, hunt around---there is specific information the letter-writer must include (name, birthdate, ss# etc).

If your bills did not cover a long enough period of time, add more from throughout the past two years.

the utility bills don't all have to be in both names. If one is in one name, the other for the other but both bills show the same residence, it's been suggested that that is good proof.

The evidence you already submitted sound very similar to what we sent. Some of your evidence may have been misplaced by them or you got some sort of automatic letter--don't assume *the worst*, just do your best to send a little more--you will think of some good things.

[Lou Lou 1]

Is it really necessary for the affidavits to include ssn?? It's certainly not on the I-751 instructions. I wouldn't dream of asking them for their ssn, and I know they wouldn't want to provide them anyway.

Taken from the I-751 form:

"Affidavits sworn to or affirmed by people who have known both of you since your conditional residence was granted and have personal knowledge of your marriage and relationship. The original affidavit must be submitted and also contain the following information regarding the person making the affidavit: his or her full name and address; date and place of birth; relationship to you or your spouse, if any; and full information and complete details explaining how the person acquired his or her knowledge."

[magnus0201 0]

I am within a week or two of filing the I-751 for my wife.

To answer the last question about SS #'s on affadavits, I got two of my friends to write a letter for me, but I did not ask them to include their SS #'s. No one wants to do that and I'm sure INS will understand that.

To the point of this thread, it sounds like the evidence they are requesting is the affadavits of supports. It would have been nice if they had spelled it out in the letter they sent you, but I am almost positive that is what they want. They seem to put as much weight on those letters as tax returns and bank statements.

[meauxna 15]

Is it really necessary for the affidavits to include ssn?? It's certainly not on the I-751 instructions. I wouldn't dream of asking them for their ssn, and I know they wouldn't want to provide them anyway.

Taken from the I-751 form:

"Affidavits sworn to or affirmed by people who have known both of you since your conditional residence was granted and have personal knowledge of your marriage and relationship. The original affidavit must be submitted and also contain the following information regarding the person making the affidavit: his or her full name and address; date and place of birth; relationship to you or your spouse, if any; and full information and complete details explaining how the person acquired his or her knowledge."

Thanks to you both for clarifying that the SS# is NOT required! My overkill only.

edit to add: Now I see where I remembered that from---it is still in the FAQ here! The example forms example is also a bit vague & states the affidavits have to be notarized (I don't think they do).

Might be time for someone to research this and tighten it up???

Edited July 10, 2006 by meauxna

[Lou Lou 1]

Thanks for clarifying that, Meauxna I keep reading about the SSNs everywhere!

[PrincessDot 0]

We also submitted affidavits with the I-751. No, I don't think they need to be notarized, but we did it anyway because one of my co-workers happens to be one. But what I think helped our case was that the people we asked to write the letters, offered some nice personal details like "She often speaks fondly of her husband and lets us know how he's doing" and what happened the last time they saw us together.

The affidavits didn't end up being as long as Sweetgirl suggests, however, and they certainly weren't written in a formal tone.

Personally, although I think affidavits aren't required, they certainly help your case. We went through the Texas Service Center and got the notice of removal of conditions in a month, and I credit the affidavits because everything else we sent were totally cut and dried (joint bills, etc).

Good luck, hopefully it turns out well.