Everyone's Favorite Immigration (Illegal Aliens)

[pedroh 21]

I tend to agree that there should be much more enforcement of the current laws, why the heck did I have to file an I-9? Oh yeah to prove I could legally work in the US!

And Pedroh, hate to break it to you but in the 1950s, racism towards african-americans was status quo, it was the 1960s when racism towards the african americans started to be looked down upon. Also, while I realize your sig is mostly intended as humor, this part bugs me "I DONT SUPPORT illegal actions" as you obviously do condone illegal actions as long as they are commited by MEXICANS.

can u tell me where do i say sure let dem illegals come here for free?? If u read carefully, I state in most posts that I do agree with deportation procedures and whatever bills the congress wants to do.. What I do not agree with is with the way they are treated, yea yea they might be criminals whatever, but they don't deserve to be treated like shite.. so.. i respectfully say to you.. STFU n00b..

so.. just because it was status-quo means it was justifiable? like now is ok to hate arab-looking people or muslims? oh.. what a great fukcin justification..

ZOMGZORZ S0 FuKC1N P0WN3D n00b!!!!

Edited July 24, 2006 by pedroh

[Artegal 1]

Man IKE what a tool (Steven_Jinky's favorite word). He made the Interstate System, so he said for better commerce etc. But it is a trap for profiling all the Mexican and African-Americans, or people that look like them that travel the I-whatevers in this country of ours. Man talk about conspiracy theories. I think the hydraulic lift, window tinting, and chrome rim industries were also in on it. Making all those box-chevies so easy to see traveling exactly 65 mph from Miami to NY, or Loredo to Detroit.

[Mirorgate 0]

Man IKE what a tool (Steven_Jinky's favorite word). He made the Interstate System, so he said for better commerce etc. But it is a trap for profiling all the Mexican and African-Americans, or people that look like them that travel the I-whatevers in this country of ours. Man talk about conspiracy theories. I think the hydraulic lift, window tinting, and chrome rim industries were also in on it. Making all those box-chevies so easy to see traveling exactly 65 mph from Miami to NY, or Loredo to Detroit.

oohhhh... glad i drive a ford then. thanks for the heads-up Art!

[almaty 19]

I tend to agree that there should be much more enforcement of the current laws, why the heck did I have to file an I-9? Oh yeah to prove I could legally work in the US!

And Pedroh, hate to break it to you but in the 1950s, racism towards african-americans was status quo, it was the 1960s when racism towards the african americans started to be looked down upon. Also, while I realize your sig is mostly intended as humor, this part bugs me "I DONT SUPPORT illegal actions" as you obviously do condone illegal actions as long as they are commited by MEXICANS.

can u tell me where do i say sure let dem illegals come here for free?? If u read carefully, I state in most posts that I do agree with deportation procedures and whatever bills the congress wants to do.. What I do not agree with is with the way they are treated, yea yea they might be criminals whatever, but they don't deserve to be treated like shite.. so.. i respectfully say to you.. STFU n00b..

so.. just because it was status-quo means it was justifiable? like now is ok to hate arab-looking people or muslims? oh.. what a great fukcin justification..

ZOMGZORZ S0 FuKC1N P0WN3D n00b!!!!

pwned by el presidente

pedroh, i guess the folks here are tired of kicking the muslims around and now ..........

[Mirorgate 0]

... i guess the folks here are tired of kicking the muslims around and now ..........

speakin of which... when does Khaz get its own football (soccor) team anyway? Saw an interesting news piece on women teams in Afghanistan (winning too, I might add).. and thought.. well damn fine sport it is... even if a game can be 0 - 0.

[Fischkoepfin 1]

... i guess the folks here are tired of kicking the muslims around and now ..........

speakin of which... when does Khaz get its own football (soccor) team anyway? Saw an interesting news piece on women teams in Afghanistan (winning too, I might add).. and thought.. well damn fine sport it is... even if a game can be 0 - 0.

Kazakhstan has a national soccer team. They almost beat Greece in the World Cup Qualification, but failed to deliver in the end. Not sure about their women's team though...

[Mirorgate 0]

... i guess the folks here are tired of kicking the muslims around and now ..........

speakin of which... when does Khaz get its own football (soccor) team anyway? Saw an interesting news piece on women teams in Afghanistan (winning too, I might add).. and thought.. well damn fine sport it is... even if a game can be 0 - 0.

Kazakhstan has a national soccer team. They almost beat Greece in the World Cup Qualification, but failed to deliver in the end. Not sure about their women's team though...

was unaware of that. thanks for the heads up. Greece eh? hhmmmmm

[Ric Flair 0]

... i guess the folks here are tired of kicking the muslims around and now ..........

speakin of which... when does Khaz get its own football (soccor) team anyway? Saw an interesting news piece on women teams in Afghanistan (winning too, I might add).. and thought.. well damn fine sport it is... even if a game can be 0 - 0.

Kazakhstan has a national soccer team. They almost beat Greece in the World Cup Qualification, but failed to deliver in the end. Not sure about their women's team though...

was unaware of that. thanks for the heads up. Greece eh? hhmmmmm

*chops Greece*

wooooooo!

[Karen_L 1]

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Bloomberg: N.Y. Too Corrupt to Function Without Illegals

by Mac Johnson

Posted Jul 11, 2006

Michael Bloomberg is the Barney Fife who ended up in charge of New York City when the lovable Sheriff Giuliani retired. And last week, he went and shot off his one bullet during a Senate hearing on amnesty for illegal aliens. Essentially, he said that the Big Apple is rotten to the core. So rotten, in fact, that if we ever began seriously enforcing our immigration laws, the city that claims to be America’s greatest would collapse and die.

I’m not sure what was more ridiculous, Barney Bloomberg’s Chicken Little moment in defense of the corrupt underground economy, or just the fact that the Senate was staging hearings on amnesty at all. For the Senate to hold hearings now, after they’ve already passed the most sweeping amnesty bill in U.S. history, is a little like a court, after pronouncing the verdict, deciding to have a little trial --you know, just so the peasants stop whining about the fix being in.

Regarding the estimated 500,000 illegal aliens that have stowed away inside the city that never checks immigration status, Mayor Fife stated that:

"Although they broke the law by illegally crossing our borders ... our city's economy would be a shell of itself had they not, and it would collapse if they were deported.” Adding ominously, "The same holds true for the nation."

Oh, thank God, they got here just in time. If they hadn’t been willing to break the law, who knows what horrors could have befallen the poor helpless United States? I mean, Bloomberg himself might have had to eat buffet style for lack of little foreign servants to wait upon him. And only Allah knows who might drive the cabs (or the Ryder trucks).

As far as I know, only one part of New York City has ever actually “collapsed,” and seeing as several of the 19 hijackers involved in making that happen were illegal aliens, it was not a lack of “undocumented workers” that caused the collapse.

Since Deputy Bloomberg seems incapable of considering anything other than economics in the immigration debate, let’s examine a few numbers, just to estimate what a repeat of a large terrorist attack could cost New York City. According to a report commissioned by the New York Senate after 9/11, the attacks of that day were estimated to cost New York $105 billion dollars in damage, lost taxes, lost jobs and lost businesses. That works out to $210,000 for every illegal alien in New York City. At that rate, I don’t know how much more cheap labor we can afford. That would buy a lot of legal busboys, Barney.

The al Qaeda operatives who were foiled in their plot to blow up New York’s subway tunnels last week must love the sort of institutionalized corruption that has taken hold within much of America’s ruling class -- a corruption that has fostered the “sanctuary city” policy of asking no questions, of ignoring the fake Social Security numbers, the fake IDs, and the illegal driver’s licenses. They must love the large community outside the law that will not co-operate with police, the supporting networks of human smugglers and forgers, and the cash-only, off-the-books jobs beyond the ability of the IRS, ICE or FBI to monitor.

What good is a “watch list” when the man on it lives in an apartment in someone else’s name, working for cash in a back room, among a community that hides all, in a city that tells its cops to ask no questions -- lest the price of hors d’oeuvres go up 3%?

But wait, there’s more! Mayor Fife also threw in this nugget regarding the ability of the United States to control its own destiny regarding illegal immigration:

"No wall or army can stop hundreds of thousands of people each year."

And that would be especially true if Bloomberg were in charge of the Army. That man has the sort of “can-do” spirit that New York needs in a mayor! If only Mayor Bloomberg had been in charge of stopping the Axis in World War II, those German classes I took in college might never have been necessary. Rudy Giuliani was “America’s Mayor.” Bloomberg seems set on being “Latin America’s Mayor.” Oh well, to each according to his abilities, I guess.

Lastly, I would like to address a moral issue inherent in Bloomberg’s statement that our immigration laws must not be enforced too vigorously for fear that it could hurt some businesses: Perhaps some businesses should be hurt by law enforcement -say, those that make their profits by breaking the law. And if an entire city is dependent upon such businesses, then perhaps it should be hurt too.

The illegal alien employer has no more right to have his profits protected from law enforcement than does the tax cheat, the thief, the con man, or the bribe giver. These things are illegal, and if you make your money by means of them, it is in society’s best interest to harm your business.

And if that means some cities are hurt more than others … so be it. The more honest ones will finally benefit from their honesty.

EH, I dunno... Bloomberg is an okay mayor. We've had better, but we've also had MUCH worse and I personally have no complaints about him, other than that he's taking this "no smoking" thing beyond reasonable measures and giving out lots of tickets for various offenses. That's annoying, but he's really not THAT inept and terrible in general.

I don't necessarily agree that NYC would collapse in on itself without illegal alients doing the dirty jobs, BUT I will say that they DO fill a niche here in the city and I will also say that, imo, in a city like NY with large numbers of both legal and illegal immigrants I don't really see any practical way to do anything about the illegal situation, except to implement a system where all people arrested for unrelated offenses (felony or misdemeanor) had to be asked about their citizenship status. Also, the sense that I get from NYCers (myself included) is a feeling of pity for illegal immigrants. Yes, of course there is a dangerous element to having so many people running around undocumented, but the large majority want only to work and be able to support themselves and for that reason, I don't know ANYONE who would report a business for employing illegal immigrants. The whole city, not just Bloomberg, has a "turn a blind eye" approach to this issue (thus far anyway).

Personally, I would support amnesty for them, BUT only if they submit to background checks, get police certificates from the home country, show proof of an established life here in the States, and maybe even proof of solid reasons why they felt they HAD to enter/stay in the US illegal (i.e. economic distress). Also, I think that if we're talking in terms of a year's worth of immigrants filing for and entering the US, there should be a quota on how many illegals can be processed each year so that they're not put in front of anyone trying to apply legally that same year.

[*Robert* 2]

All we are saying... is give peace a chance....