Hate crime or not?

[justashooter 430]

There are some rather unpleasant implications in these threads - almost as if by proving so-called "reverse racism" that prejudice in general can somehow be justified.

truth hurts, doesn't it, my friend. BTW, the comic book cover is getting old. how about finding something else to show us?

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

There are some rather unpleasant implications in these threads - almost as if by proving so-called "reverse racism" that prejudice in general can somehow be justified.

truth hurts, doesn't it, my friend. BTW, the comic book cover is getting old. how about finding something else to show us?

The truth that prejudice against minority groups is being presented by a few people here as though it is somehow justifiable? Then yes, we agree. Its just a shame that the people creating these threads don't stop to think before they write.

BTW, How about ditching the royal we?

Edited July 28, 2009 by Private Pike

[_Simpson_ 250]

There are some rather unpleasant implications in these threads - almost as if by proving so-called "reverse racism" that prejudice in general can somehow be justified.

I disagree, thats your take on it and your entitled to it but my take on it is that often "reverse racism" isnt taken as seriously as other racism and people want to draw attention to that so that maybe things will change.

Edited July 28, 2009 by looking_up

[HAL 9000 96]

There are some rather unpleasant implications in these threads - almost as if by proving so-called "reverse racism" that prejudice in general can somehow be justified.

I disagree, thats your take on it and your entitled to it but my take on it is that often "reverse racism" isnt taken as seriously as other racism and people want to draw attention to that so that maybe things will change.

I'd agree if it was statistically relevant that somehow 'reverse racism' put the reversed target population at some kind of social disadvantage as a whole. Something quite inaccurate. This is the extremes, at times racist themselves, making characterizations to the norm which are false.

Racism on all accounts is stupid, yes. And that should be the end of it. Trying to rub things in by some of these folks does show intent to play the race game to false standards which are denied in light of seeking a social equality which does not yet exist.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

There are some rather unpleasant implications in these threads - almost as if by proving so-called "reverse racism" that prejudice in general can somehow be justified.

I disagree, thats your take on it and your entitled to it but my take on it is that often "reverse racism" isnt taken as seriously as other racism and people want to draw attention to that so that maybe things will change.

If that were the direction of some of these opinions, but it isn't. The big issue I have with one poster, in particular, is that he doesn't seem interested (at all) in discussing the background of racial prejudice as much as using stories like this to go off on spurious rants to justify stereotyped conceptions about blacks and hispanics.

Generally speaking, there's less open-mindedness on this issue than most of the people promoting these types of threads will concede, and in the main they aren't interested in addressing the causative factors of racism. Nor are they interested in what people from those communities have to say on the subject.

All we get are a succession of trite one-liners about "double standards" and how "put down" the white man is in modern America. Its childish to say the least.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

There are some rather unpleasant implications in these threads - almost as if by proving so-called "reverse racism" that prejudice in general can somehow be justified.

I disagree, thats your take on it and your entitled to it but my take on it is that often "reverse racism" isnt taken as seriously as other racism and people want to draw attention to that so that maybe things will change.

I'd agree if it was statistically relevant that somehow 'reverse racism' put the reversed target population at some kind of social disadvantage as a whole. Something quite inaccurate. This is the extremes, at times racist themselves, making characterizations to the norm which are false.

Racism on all accounts is stupid, yes. And that should be the end of it. Trying to rub things in by some of these folks does show intent to play the race game to false standards which are denied in light of seeking a social equality which does not yet exist.

Yep.

The perception that it isn't taken as seriously has to do with:

1) Historical context. Yes, some minority groups are granted a protected status to some degree when it comes to things like prejudice and discrimination. That obviously has to do with the fact that they were historically subject to prejudice and are, to some extent, recipients of an unfair system (born into cycles of generational poverty, for example).

2) The idea that racism by minorities towards the dominant majority is as prevalent and pervasive as the other way around. People being people, they are similar in many ways - though when we talk about race in this country, the term is often synonymous with social class - and race/class resentments can create reactionary or prejudicial attitudes towards other communities and to society at large. A minority individual might be more sensitive towards racial discrimination than I am, because I have never experienced it first hand.

[_Simpson_ 250]

I would be very interested in addressing the things you mentioned but as far as pointing out the obvious like double standards with out going into a long disscusion about causative factors of racism seems reasonable to me, because regardless to the reasons its still unacceptable and I think that alot of these arguments go back and forth on the basis of does double standards exist.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

I don't think anyone would disagree that racial prejudice is, at the very least, "unreasonable" - no matter where it originates from.

[HAL 9000 96]

I would be very interested in addressing the things you mentioned but as far as pointing out the obvious like double standards with out going into a long disscusion about causative factors of racism seems reasonable to me, because regardless to the reasons its still unacceptable and I think that alot of these arguments go back and forth on the basis of does double standards exist.

They do exist... as much as the triple standards that are often used to justify the single standard of prejudicial treatment based on race. And its all really fvcking stupid.

[SpiritAlight 1]

Definitely a hate crime.

I concur.

I would be very interested in addressing the things you mentioned but as far as pointing out the obvious like double standards with out going into a long disscusion about causative factors of racism seems reasonable to me, because regardless to the reasons its still unacceptable and I think that alot of these arguments go back and forth on the basis of does double standards exist.

They do exist... as much as the triple standards that are often used to justify the single standard of prejudicial treatment based on race. And its all really fvcking stupid.

What he (it) said.

[justashooter 430]

There are some rather unpleasant implications in these threads - almost as if by proving so-called "reverse racism" that prejudice in general can somehow be justified.

truth hurts, doesn't it, my friend. BTW, the comic book cover is getting old. how about finding something else to show us?

The truth that prejudice against minority groups is being presented by a few people here as though it is somehow justifiable? Then yes, we agree. Its just a shame that the people creating these threads don't stop to think before they write.

BTW, How about ditching the royal we?

It's not a royal we. It's a literary we. They are similar, and were at one time related, but they are really quite different even though they appear to be the same to the disenfranchised. The royal we speaks with the power of a nation. The literary we speaks with the conscience of a society.

I see no racism in York Pennsylvania, but I see a lot of reverse racism. I see a lot of white people playing by the rules and engaging in polite behaviour. I see a lot of people of other color violating the rules and behaving in an offensive manner.

I don't make the news. I just write it.

[jundp 191]

Hate crime.

[_Simpson_ 250]

There are some rather unpleasant implications in these threads - almost as if by proving so-called "reverse racism" that prejudice in general can somehow be justified.

I disagree, thats your take on it and your entitled to it but my take on it is that often "reverse racism" isnt taken as seriously as other racism and people want to draw attention to that so that maybe things will change.

I'd agree if it was statistically relevant that somehow 'reverse racism' put the reversed target population at some kind of social disadvantage as a whole. Something quite inaccurate. This is the extremes, at times racist themselves, making characterizations to the norm which are false.

Racism on all accounts is stupid, yes. And that should be the end of it. Trying to rub things in by some of these folks does show intent to play the race game to false standards which are denied in light of seeking a social equality which does not yet exist.

Right these extremes exist on both sides rather it be black, white or whatever color,the frustrating part is how it is treated when its towards white. I dont think on a whole that any part of our society is at a social disadvantage because of racism.

It really doesnt have to be that difficult. There has been plenty of times where racism towards whites has been shaken off and people are frustrated. I dont blame them.

[HAL 9000 96]

Definitely a hate crime.

I concur.

I would be very interested in addressing the things you mentioned but as far as pointing out the obvious like double standards with out going into a long disscusion about causative factors of racism seems reasonable to me, because regardless to the reasons its still unacceptable and I think that alot of these arguments go back and forth on the basis of does double standards exist.

They do exist... as much as the triple standards that are often used to justify the single standard of prejudicial treatment based on race. And its all really fvcking stupid.

What he (it) said.

Spirit is here! I knew I felt some positivism in OT on its way today.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

There are some rather unpleasant implications in these threads - almost as if by proving so-called "reverse racism" that prejudice in general can somehow be justified.

truth hurts, doesn't it, my friend. BTW, the comic book cover is getting old. how about finding something else to show us?

The truth that prejudice against minority groups is being presented by a few people here as though it is somehow justifiable? Then yes, we agree. Its just a shame that the people creating these threads don't stop to think before they write.

BTW, How about ditching the royal we?

It's not a royal we. It's a literary we. They are similar, and were at one time related, but they are really quite different even though they appear to be the same to the disenfranchised. The royal we speaks with the power of a nation. The literary we speaks with the conscience of a society.

I see no racism in York Pennsylvania, but I see a lot of reverse racism. I see a lot of white people playing by the rules and engaging in polite behaviour. I see a lot of people of other color violating the rules and behaving in an offensive manner.

I don't make the news. I just write it.

...it is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing