AP date

[Bajih 4]

Is your interview date the date you are officially in AP or the date the USCIS originally approves your packet before sending it to the embassy? I have a feeling I know the answer to this question- which will lead me to my next question after I see the consensus on it...

Thanks.

[maria teresa 0]

I am not sure...but i think it is the date of your interview.

[atk_721 0]

Interview date

[Ramialbali 23]

Is your interview date the date you are officially in AP or the date the USCIS originally approves your packet before sending it to the embassy? I have a feeling I know the answer to this question- which will lead me to my next question after I see the consensus on it...

Thanks.

The date of interview or submission of supplemental documents, whichever is later.

Check this,

http://travel.state.gov/visa/temp/wait/tempvisitors_wait.php

[Bajih 4]

Thanks- here is my next question then. Not sure anyone will have an answer for it- so perhaps I am just venting.....

If the USCIS approves the application- and it is sent to the US Embassy of the country, why isn't all of this AP business started on the day that they approve it? Why wait until the interview? Doesn't it seem like they would want to know issues before taking the time to actually sit and interview someone? I just feel that this whole thing is backwards. (I know I am preaching to the choir here!)

The USCIS approval date was back in Feb. The interview was in April...and been in AP since. I am just frustrated that this process could have been started BEFORE the interview as he was already APPROVED by the USCIS. We are being held up by security clearance as far as I know (common middle eastern name) as they have not requested any other papers...

What is the purpose of this USCIS approval anyway??

Thanks.

Baj

Edited July 28, 2009 by Bajih

[tenderheartusa79 14]

Thanks- here is my next question then. Not sure anyone will have an answer for it- so perhaps I am just venting.....

If the USCIS approves the application- and it is sent to the US Embassy of the country, why isn't all of this AP business started on the day that they approve it? Why wait until the interview? Doesn't it seem like they would want to know issues before taking the time to actually sit and interview someone? I just feel that this whole thing is backwards. (I know I am preaching to the choir here!)

The USCIS approval date was back in Feb. The interview was in April...and been in AP since. I am just frustrated that this process could have been started BEFORE the interview as he was already APPROVED by the USCIS. We are being held up by security clearance as far as I know (common middle eastern name) as they have not requested any other papers...

What is the purpose of this USCIS approval anyway??

Thanks.

Baj

WOW I asked the same questions before and sadly i did not find any answers .

And let me add something .I know that they check on the name at the USCIS an at NVC level ''maybe they send the petition to FBI of however it work '' .

Which mean they send the petition to the USA embassy after they make sure that you are clean and everything is Ok . so why the heck they check on the name again after the interview ''AP'' .

I have been under AP since March 2009 and still no news .

Good luck and i hope we will hear good news soon .

[th3mo 6]

Thanks- here is my next question then. Not sure anyone will have an answer for it- so perhaps I am just venting.....

If the USCIS approves the application- and it is sent to the US Embassy of the country, why isn't all of this AP business started on the day that they approve it? Why wait until the interview? Doesn't it seem like they would want to know issues before taking the time to actually sit and interview someone? I just feel that this whole thing is backwards. (I know I am preaching to the choir here!)

The USCIS approval date was back in Feb. The interview was in April...and been in AP since. I am just frustrated that this process could have been started BEFORE the interview as he was already APPROVED by the USCIS. We are being held up by security clearance as far as I know (common middle eastern name) as they have not requested any other papers...

What is the purpose of this USCIS approval anyway??

Thanks.

Baj

WOW I asked the same questions before and sadly i did not find any answers .

And let me add something .I know that they check on the name at the USCIS an at NVC level ''maybe they send the petition to FBI of however it work '' .

Which mean they send the petition to the USA embassy after they make sure that you are clean and everything is Ok . so why the heck they check on the name again after the interview ''AP'' .

I have been under AP since March 2009 and still no news .

Good luck and i hope we will hear good news soon .

yes i agree with you Hot Guy it took me almost 7 months to get approved from USCIS so i believe it was name check so now back to the same stage again AP for what ,where, dunno ,they just like to mess with us or what ,am on AP since June 24th so it been 1 month and 4 days hope we hear some good news soon ,Good Luck all

[Ramialbali 23]

Thanks- here is my next question then. Not sure anyone will have an answer for it- so perhaps I am just venting.....

If the USCIS approves the application- and it is sent to the US Embassy of the country, why isn't all of this AP business started on the day that they approve it? Why wait until the interview? Doesn't it seem like they would want to know issues before taking the time to actually sit and interview someone? I just feel that this whole thing is backwards. (I know I am preaching to the choir here!)

The USCIS approval date was back in Feb. The interview was in April...and been in AP since. I am just frustrated that this process could have been started BEFORE the interview as he was already APPROVED by the USCIS. We are being held up by security clearance as far as I know (common middle eastern name) as they have not requested any other papers...

What is the purpose of this USCIS approval anyway??

Thanks.

Baj

WOW I asked the same questions before and sadly i did not find any answers .

And let me add something .I know that they check on the name at the USCIS an at NVC level ''maybe they send the petition to FBI of however it work '' .

Which mean they send the petition to the USA embassy after they make sure that you are clean and everything is Ok . so why the heck they check on the name again after the interview ''AP'' .

I have been under AP since March 2009 and still no news .

Good luck and i hope we will hear good news soon .

yes i agree with you Hot Guy it took me almost 7 months to get approved from USCIS so i believe it was name check so now back to the same stage again AP for what ,where, dunno ,they just like to mess with us or what ,am on AP since June 24th so it been 1 month and 4 days hope we hear some good news soon ,Good Luck all

I have asked the same question even before they put me under AP. Why cannot they start doing the AP when petitions get approved from USCIS? I did some research but there was no legitimate answer. I have a friend who worked for USCIS and in a congressman office for years, but I did not know. Her answer was that they are different stages of administrative processing, and when the officer in the embassy decide to put a case under PA then a deep investigation starts. Also, she said they cannot start it when a petitions approved for different reasons. They need to be sure that the embassy can issue a visa to the applicant because in the this stage AP takes a lot of work and investigation especially if the applicant has traveled around the world which many privet investigation companies will involve in the procedure. So she said they cannot start it unless they can be sure that the applicant will go to his interview because in many cases applicants do not show up in the interview for many reasons or cancel his visa, and they want to be sure that the applicant passed the interview because they do not want to waste their time and money for nothing. Then I asked her why they need to involve private investigation companies instead of contacting the government in the target country to investigate? She said, It depends on the country because they do not trust many countries in many cases. She said in many countries if the applicant has connection in the government, they can play with the system. For example they can issue him a police record even he has a crime record or was in jail. But, at the end she said that they can do much better job than this if they desire to do it especially if the applicant has never traveled around the world or went out of his country. They can build a better system than this, but they do not care whether AP takes one month or a year. I asked her if congressmen can faster the AP? She said no, but they will know that there is somebody is following your case and calling them.

I do not know if she is right or wrong, but that what I get. She assured me that they can do it faster than by building a better system, but there is no a true movement until now try to push them to do it. I am really feel bad and crazy, my marriage is falling apart because of the AP. My wife is collapsing and falling apart. I am stuck with this and do not know what to do.

I hope my English was good enough to explain this.

Best Luck

Edited July 28, 2009 by Rami-Becky

[th3mo 6]

if it goes like what you just described it up there so God Bless all of us for this AP and only way works is keep faith and praying this is the only safe exit

Edited July 28, 2009 by th3mo

[MARM 7]

What I don't understand is even after the interview has taken place, if there is a supplemental document that is asked for, why don't they just start the AP process after the interview, rather than wait for the supplemental document? Things such as name checks, security checks can be done surely without say, a pending police certificate or a pending passport (in my fiance's case, he was approved pending his passport as he did not have his passport at the time of interview, and once he submit his passport to the embassy, he was put on AP and is currently on AP...even though he was told he was approved at the time of the interview. The good thing is that the embassy has his passport, so this maybe means that his AP will be processed faster. Also, his AP is not for security checks, its for verifying his qualifications for the visa, as DOS has told us).

[Bajih 4]

Thank you for everyone sharing! It looks like we are all in the same boat and we are all just pretty confused.

There HAS to be a better way. Perhaps this will be some goal I work on in life- getting this whole system changed.

Even if they would just send us SOMETHING- some communication now and then. This waiting for who-knows-how-long is crazy! I know there are people out there waiting over a year or two! Ah! I called the DOS and the lady said she couldn't even tell me why he was in AP. Why not? Isn't it MY case? They can't tell me a generic "security check" or "police report check" or something?

It just amazes me that with all of our technology that the US can't put together a website that is understandable and answers all of these questions.

So, we wait together. At least we know we are "norm"....(bad consolation but the only one)

Thanks!

[tenderheartusa79 14]

FBI Name Check Overview

All applicants for a U.S. immigration benefit, such as a green card applicant, are subject to criminal and national security background checks to ensure they are eligible for that benefit. U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS), the Federal agency that oversees immigration benefits, performs checks on every applicant, regardless of ethnicity, national origin or religion.

The Purpose of NNCP?

The purpose of the name check is to enhance national security and ensure the integrity of the immigration process. USCIS is responsible for ensuring that our immigration system is not used as a vehicle to harm the United States or its citizens by screening out people who seek immigration benefits improperly or fraudulently. These security checks are used to identify applicants involved in violent crimes, sex crimes, crimes against children, drug trafficking and individuals with known links to terrorism.

NNCP Function

The NNCP review and analyze potential identifiable documents to determine whether a specific individual has been the subject of or mentioned in any FBI investigation(s), and if so, what (if any) relevant information may be disseminated to the requesting agency. It is important to note that the FBI does not adjudicate the final outcome; it just reports the results to the requesting agency.

Name Check Database: Source of Data

The NNCP conducts manual and electronic searches of the FBI's Central Records System (CRS) Universal Index (UNI). The CRS encompasses the centralized records of FBI Headquarters, field offices, and Legal Attache offices. The CRS contains all FBI investigative, administrative, personnel, and general files.

NNCP Process - Major Steps

The FBI NNCP conducts manual and electronic searches of the FBI's Central Records System (CRS) and Universal Index (UNI) for all instances of applicant's name and approximate date of birth in main case files or references. A main file name is that of an individual who is the subject of an FBI investigation whereas a reference is someone whose name appears in an FBI investigation. 1. Search Request

The agency/entity (UCSIS) submits a request to the FBI's NNCP. Submissions are accepted via magnetic tape, hard copy, telephone, or fax.

2. Primary Search

The electronic (batch) submissions are searched against the UNI. The majority of the batch names are electronically returned as "no record" with 48-72 hours.

3. Secondary Search

A secondary "manual" search is done for names with possible reference or entries from the "hits" (possible matches) of the primary search.

4. Manual Review

The remaining paper files and/or electronic files are reviewed to ensure they are relevant to the name check request.

5. Disclosure of Search Results

Identifiable files ("Idents") are then analyzed for relevant or derogatory information that may be disseminated to the requesting agency/entity (USCIS). The NNCP forwards a summary of the information of the individual to the submitting agency/entity.

Explanation of Search Results

1. "No Record"

A "no record" indicates that the UNI database contains no identifiable information regarding a particular individual. By agreement with the Department of State, partially due to the concern about the time factors in approving visa requests, a "No Record" translates in to a "No Objection" to the issuance of a visa. 2. "Hit" (Possible Match)

If there is a match with a name in a FBI record, it is designated as a "Hit," meaning that the system has stopped on a possible match with the name being checked, but now a human being must review the file or index entry to further refine the names "Hit" upon.

3. "Ident" (Match)

If the search develops a name and birth date match of a "hit", it is designated as an "Ident" which is then analyzed for relevant or derogatory information.

4. Further Investigation is Needed

Additional review is required for searches that were not immediately eliminated as a "No Record" due to a name and birth date not being enough to positively match the file with an individual. A secondary manual search is done to determine a "no record" or a possible "hit". The electronic and/or paper FBI record for these is retrieved and reviewed. Which is then determined a "hit" or "no record".

Name Check Processing Time

The majority of name checks submitted are electronically checked and returned to the submitting agency as having "No Record" within 48-72 hours. The processing time for FBI name checks usually take from 30-120 days but timing does vary from case to case. The FBI's intention is to have all visa requests processed within 120 days. Most name check requests that are over 60 days old are the result of the time required to retrieve and review field office record information. Any case which is not processed within this time frame is usually delayed because of a potential "hit" (match) which will be further reviewed manually

Major Name Check Requesting Agencies

The FBI's NNCP Section provides services to more than 70 federal, state, and local governments and entities. Although most name checks are conducted for each agency on a first-in, first-out basis, the contributing agency determines the order of resolution for priority, project, or expedite cases. 1. U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS)

Submits name check requests on individuals applying for the following benefits: asylum, adjustment of status to legal permanent resident, naturalization, and waivers.

2. Office of Personnel Management

Submits name checks requests in order to determine an individual's suitability and eligibility in seeking employment with the federal government.

3. Department of State

Submits FBI name check requests on individuals applying for visas.

Not all visa matters require FBI name checks.

Freedom of Information and Privacy Act (FOIPA) vs. Name Check

Freedom of Information and Privacy Acts (FOIPA) requests are sometimes confused with name check requests. FOIPA provides copies of FBI files relevant to a specific FOIPA request. For FOIPA, the FBI search uses the name or information as provided in the FOIPA request. A FOIPA search determines whether there is an investigative file associated with an individual—a "main file" search. For a name check, "main files" and "reference files" are both checked, in addition to searching a name in a multitude of combinations.

Edited July 29, 2009 by Hot Guy

[th3mo 6]

some good news here from US embassy in Cairo , sent them an e-mail couple of days ago asking about my status of my AP and got some worried because it took them such a long time to answer me back , but GUESS WHAT

" DEAR.SIR

YOUR ADMINISTRATIVE PROCESS HAS BEEN COMPLETED AND WE NEED YOUR PASSPORT " :dance:

first thing in the morning going to dhl my passport

you are next brothers and sisters you are next just keep faith up and will pass smooth and easy Good Luck all

Edited July 29, 2009 by th3mo

[MARM 7]

some good news here from US embassy in Cairo , sent them an e-mail couple of days ago asking about my status of my AP and got some worried because it took them such a long time to answer me back , but GUESS WHAT

" DEAR.SIR

YOUR ADMINISTRATIVE PROCESS HAS BEEN COMPLETED AND WE NEED YOUR PASSPORT " :dance:

first thing in the morning going to dhl my passport

you are next brothers and sisters you are next just keep faith up and will pass smooth and easy Good Luck all

:dance:

[waiting4approval 2]

some good news here from US embassy in Cairo , sent them an e-mail couple of days ago asking about my status of my AP and got some worried because it took them such a long time to answer me back , but GUESS WHAT

" DEAR.SIR

YOUR ADMINISTRATIVE PROCESS HAS BEEN COMPLETED AND WE NEED YOUR PASSPORT " :dance:

first thing in the morning going to dhl my passport

you are next brothers and sisters you are next just keep faith up and will pass smooth and easy Good Luck all

Congratulations, your journey is over..we are all waiting for one of these emails!!!