Obama moves to grant political asylum to women who suffer domestic abuse

[nowhereman 1]

Statistics on Asylum, straight from the Department of Justice:

http://www.usdoj.gov/eoir/efoia/FY08AsyStats.pdf

In FY '08: 10,743 cases were granted (out of a possible 47,459). Doesn't list how many were abused women but 10,743 is a drop in the bucket. Also if you crunch the numbers less than 23% of the total applicants were approved.

More Info:

What Is the Legal Standard for Granting Asylum Claims?

Asylum and refugee applications are both adjudicated under the same legal standard––a well-founded fear of persecution based on at least one of five internationally recognized grounds: race, religion, nationality, membership in a particular social group, or political opinion.

Is Anyone Barred From Obtaining Asylum?

Under immigration law certain individuals are barred from obtaining asylum, including those who:

Have firmly resettled in another country prior to arriving in the United States;

Have ordered, incited, assisted, or otherwise participated in the persecution of any person on account of race, religion, nationality, membership in a particular social group, or political opinion;

Were convicted of a particularly serious crime (includes aggravated felonies);

Committed a serious nonpolitical crime outside the United States;

Pose a danger to the security of the United States;

Are members or representatives of a foreign terrorist organization; or

Have engaged in or incited terrorist activity.

What Is the Major Difference Between Asylum and Refugee Applicants?

The major difference between asylum and refugee applicants is that those seeking refugee status apply from outside the United States. Asylum-seekers must be in the United States or applying for admission at a port of entry.

Edited July 27, 2009 by nowhereman

[Peikko 1,575]

Everyone seeking asylum to the US has to go through due process. Let it be noted that asylum seekers are not residing in their home countries waiting for the US to grant them asylum , they actually have to have reached the US first. Bearing that in mind, the numbers are never going to be that high. Asylum is not the same as refugee.

russian christians and chinese people who want to have more than one child had to pay large sums of money to get smuggled into the US before they could claim asylum. mexican women can walk in a lot cheaper. your comment is therefore invalid.

This post is neither relevant nor meaningful in any sense of the word.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Everyone seeking asylum to the US has to go through due process. Let it be noted that asylum seekers are not residing in their home countries waiting for the US to grant them asylum , they actually have to have reached the US first. Bearing that in mind, the numbers are never going to be that high. Asylum is not the same as refugee.

russian christians and chinese people who want to have more than one child had to pay large sums of money to get smuggled into the US before they could claim asylum. mexican women can walk in a lot cheaper. your comment is therefore invalid.

That's a case of 2+2 = chicken nuggets.

The post you quoted has absolutely nothing to do with the cost of asylum, nor do the numbers quoted in the article reflect a massive surge in asylum cases from Mexico, or anywhere else.

[Kathryn41 3,205]

Please watch it with racially specific comments - they can easily be taken out of context and be seen as a racial slur.

[justashooter 430]

Everyone seeking asylum to the US has to go through due process. Let it be noted that asylum seekers are not residing in their home countries waiting for the US to grant them asylum , they actually have to have reached the US first. Bearing that in mind, the numbers are never going to be that high. Asylum is not the same as refugee.

russian christians and chinese people who want to have more than one child had to pay large sums of money to get smuggled into the US before they could claim asylum. mexican women can walk in a lot cheaper. your comment is therefore invalid.

That's a case of 2+2 = chicken nuggets.

The post you quoted has absolutely nothing to do with the cost of asylum, nor do the numbers quoted in the article reflect a massive surge in asylum cases from Mexico, or anywhere else.

the chickens haven't hatched, yet, my friend. this case is the first of the batch. the relevance of my earlier post is in reference to the likelihood of increased numbers with increased ease of entry. people from countries across the ocean have a much harder time getting into US so that they can claim asylum than people from adjacent countries.

[nowhereman 1]

Everyone seeking asylum to the US has to go through due process. Let it be noted that asylum seekers are not residing in their home countries waiting for the US to grant them asylum , they actually have to have reached the US first. Bearing that in mind, the numbers are never going to be that high. Asylum is not the same as refugee.

russian christians and chinese people who want to have more than one child had to pay large sums of money to get smuggled into the US before they could claim asylum. mexican women can walk in a lot cheaper. your comment is therefore invalid.

That's a case of 2+2 = chicken nuggets.

The post you quoted has absolutely nothing to do with the cost of asylum, nor do the numbers quoted in the article reflect a massive surge in asylum cases from Mexico, or anywhere else.

the chickens haven't hatched, yet, my friend. this case is the first of the batch. the relevance of my earlier post is in reference to the likelihood of increased numbers with increased ease of entry. people from countries across the ocean have a much harder time getting into US so that they can claim asylum than people from adjacent countries.

I posted the criteria above & from what I can tell all this does is add 1 more category (abused women) to the list. They still have to go through the process & prove that they have a valid case (just like just about everyone here who went through the K-1 or K-3 process). I just don't see the controversy here.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

There isn't any.

Some of the folks here have a strange need to create controversy out of nothing - as if to inject some excitement into their otherwise dull lives.

[panamania79 2]

There isn't any.

Some of the folks here have a strange need to create controversy out of nothing - as if to inject some excitement into their otherwise dull lives.

[Danno 1,228]

Statistics on Asylum, straight from the Department of Justice:

http://www.usdoj.gov/eoir/efoia/FY08AsyStats.pdf

In FY '08: 10,743 cases were granted (out of a possible 47,459). Doesn't list how many were abused women but 10,743 is a drop in the bucket. Also if you crunch the numbers less than 23% of the total applicants were approved.

More Info:

What Is the Legal Standard for Granting Asylum Claims?

Asylum and refugee applications are both adjudicated under the same legal standard––a well-founded fear of persecution based on at least one of five internationally recognized grounds: race, religion, nationality, membership in a particular social group, or political opinion.

Is Anyone Barred From Obtaining Asylum?

Under immigration law certain individuals are barred from obtaining asylum, including those who:

Have firmly resettled in another country prior to arriving in the United States;

Have ordered, incited, assisted, or otherwise participated in the persecution of any person on account of race, religion, nationality, membership in a particular social group, or political opinion;

Were convicted of a particularly serious crime (includes aggravated felonies);

Committed a serious nonpolitical crime outside the United States;

Pose a danger to the security of the United States;

Are members or representatives of a foreign terrorist organization; or

Have engaged in or incited terrorist activity.

What Is the Major Difference Between Asylum and Refugee Applicants?

The major difference between asylum and refugee applicants is that those seeking refugee status apply from outside the United States. Asylum-seekers must be in the United States or applying for admission at a port of entry.

So it does sound like this is the first category which excludes one gender..... interesting.

[steve 27]

Everyone seeking asylum to the US has to go through due process. Let it be noted that asylum seekers are not residing in their home countries waiting for the US to grant them asylum , they actually have to have reached the US first. Bearing that in mind, the numbers are never going to be that high. Asylum is not the same as refugee.

russian christians and chinese people who want to have more than one child had to pay large sums of money to get smuggled into the US before they could claim asylum. mexican women can walk in a lot cheaper. your comment is therefore invalid.

@justashooter

Please be more respectful of the diverse background of members at VisaJourney. Singling out specific groups just to incite an argument is not productive and not in the best interest of the site. Thank you .

[Ban Hammer 13,643]

i had a feeling steve was who ewok was talking about when he said old time member was gonna come out of retirement.

[HAL 9000 96]

hopefully not like Brett Favre though.

[steve 27]

hopefully not like Brett Favre though.

Lol. I will stick around longer than spring training and don't plan to switch teams every season.

[HAL 9000 96]

[Peikko 1,575]

Statistics on Asylum, straight from the Department of Justice:

http://www.usdoj.gov/eoir/efoia/FY08AsyStats.pdf

In FY '08: 10,743 cases were granted (out of a possible 47,459). Doesn't list how many were abused women but 10,743 is a drop in the bucket. Also if you crunch the numbers less than 23% of the total applicants were approved.

More Info:

What Is the Legal Standard for Granting Asylum Claims?

Asylum and refugee applications are both adjudicated under the same legal standard––a well-founded fear of persecution based on at least one of five internationally recognized grounds: race, religion, nationality, membership in a particular social group, or political opinion.

Is Anyone Barred From Obtaining Asylum?

Under immigration law certain individuals are barred from obtaining asylum, including those who:

Have firmly resettled in another country prior to arriving in the United States;

Have ordered, incited, assisted, or otherwise participated in the persecution of any person on account of race, religion, nationality, membership in a particular social group, or political opinion;

Were convicted of a particularly serious crime (includes aggravated felonies);

Committed a serious nonpolitical crime outside the United States;

Pose a danger to the security of the United States;

Are members or representatives of a foreign terrorist organization; or

Have engaged in or incited terrorist activity.

What Is the Major Difference Between Asylum and Refugee Applicants?

The major difference between asylum and refugee applicants is that those seeking refugee status apply from outside the United States. Asylum-seekers must be in the United States or applying for admission at a port of entry.

So it does sound like this is the first category which excludes one gender..... interesting.

Why? Do you doubt the notion that women are culturally excluded from having the same rights to personal freedoms and justice in some countries? Can you name a country where the same can be said for men?