showing Western Union invoices on the interwiew

[Anagramma 2]

Hi!

We are gathering the necessary files for the petition kit, I've sent my documents in the USA to my fiance.

My question would be - it is said that it is requested at the interview to show up with Western Union invoices with which we can prove that I have received money from my fiance. He has never sent me money because I have never asked for and I would never ask for it . Do we have to do that? It is very embarrassing for me to ask for money from him. What is your experience?

[baron555 934]

Hi!

We are gathering the necessary files for the petition kit, I've sent my documents in the USA to my fiance.

My question would be - it is said that it is requested at the interview to show up with Western Union invoices with which we can prove that I have received money from my fiance. He has never sent me money because I have never asked for and I would never ask for it . Do we have to do that? It is very embarrassing for me to ask for money from him. What is your experience?

Usually it is frowned upon to even mention giving money to the beneficiary; it might raise the red flag that the USC is buying the beneficiary and you do not have a bonafide relationship. I'd leave those out and don't ask for money.

[Matt & Bing 56]

Hi!

We are gathering the necessary files for the petition kit, I've sent my documents in the USA to my fiance.

My question would be - it is said that it is requested at the interview to show up with Western Union invoices with which we can prove that I have received money from my fiance. He has never sent me money because I have never asked for and I would never ask for it . Do we have to do that? It is very embarrassing for me to ask for money from him. What is your experience?

Where did you hear that? Most suggest not providing WU receipts even if money was sent - Makes it look like a business transaction.

Its definately not necesssary.

[Ban Hammer 13,344]

moved from K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedures to US Embassy and Consulate Discussion

pertains to interview, which happens at the embassy/consulate.

[John & Nan 0]

Hi!

We are gathering the necessary files for the petition kit, I've sent my documents in the USA to my fiance.

My question would be - it is said that it is requested at the interview to show up with Western Union invoices with which we can prove that I have received money from my fiance. He has never sent me money because I have never asked for and I would never ask for it . Do we have to do that? It is very embarrassing for me to ask for money from him. What is your experience?

I gave all my Western Union Invoices to my wife to take, But we are married, have a son and are doing a K3. I made my wife quit work when she was pregnant with our son and go back home to stay with her mom. I did not like her living alone in the city. I do no if they are documentation showing co-mingling of financial resources or not. To this date my wife will never ask for money and we are married!!!

[Anagramma 2]

Hi!

We are gathering the necessary files for the petition kit, I've sent my documents in the USA to my fiance.

My question would be - it is said that it is requested at the interview to show up with Western Union invoices with which we can prove that I have received money from my fiance. He has never sent me money because I have never asked for and I would never ask for it . Do we have to do that? It is very embarrassing for me to ask for money from him. What is your experience?

Where did you hear that? Most suggest not providing WU receipts even if money was sent - Makes it look like a business transaction.

Its definately not necesssary.

Thank you very much, now I am satisfied, and calm with your answer

Somebody told me, who is already married, and living now in the USA (used K1 visa).

[Mononoke28 135]

I gave all my Western Union Invoices to my wife to take, But we are married, have a son and are doing a K3. I made my wife quit work when she was pregnant with our son and go back home to stay with her mom. I did not like her living alone in the city. I do no if they are documentation showing co-mingling of financial resources or not. To this date my wife will never ask for money and we are married!!!

Damn!

Diana

[joeyjoey 1]

Hi!

We are gathering the necessary files for the petition kit, I've sent my documents in the USA to my fiance.

My question would be - it is said that it is requested at the interview to show up with Western Union invoices with which we can prove that I have received money from my fiance. He has never sent me money because I have never asked for and I would never ask for it . Do we have to do that? It is very embarrassing for me to ask for money from him. What is your experience?

Showing the Consulate that the beneficiary has received a constant stream of money from the petitioner would definitely be questioned. I would not do that! Use the other things that can help to show that the 2 of you have a bonafide relationship. Those things may include photos together, letters, phone bills, engagement ring receipt, hotel invoices with both names, holiday cards to each other, etc. What you are proving in your Interview is that the relationship is an honest relationship and not one that is based on money or for a more sinister means.

[Gary and Alla 3,694]

Hi!

We are gathering the necessary files for the petition kit, I've sent my documents in the USA to my fiance.

My question would be - it is said that it is requested at the interview to show up with Western Union invoices with which we can prove that I have received money from my fiance. He has never sent me money because I have never asked for and I would never ask for it . Do we have to do that? It is very embarrassing for me to ask for money from him. What is your experience?

This seems to be a hot button issue in some consulates. Not sure about Bucharest. I have a personal friend that works there but I doubt he would specifically answer. (or even could)

I DID bring these to our interview as my fiancee (at the time) and I had developed a budget using her income at the time and mine, our desired goals and what money was needed where and for what. I felt (and still do) it is a very strong indication of a sincere, legitimate relationship that two adults set up a plan and budget, no just so she could get manicures but also for education for children, English lessons for the youngest son, medical care for her mother, etc. Y'know, "grown-up" stuff that grown-ups do and would especially do if forced to be apart for some time (gee, like, um...military people!)

No one in Kiev had a problem with it, but no one seemed particularly impressed either, and we got the visa no questions asked.

I guess my belief now is this...For a K-1 visa it is probably of little or no benefit in most consulates and possibly or certainly a hindrance in others. It is DEFINITELY a hindrance if it is the BULK of your "evidence", for us it was but a "footnote" in what we presented, so probably "fluff" at best.

By the way, moneygram is cheaper and there are locations all over in Eastern Europe, and Italy also, that I know of.

[brnidokiegurl 0]

alot does depend on the history of the embassy BUT i think the general thought is dont mention money especially for k1, you each had a established life before you met why now would someone need money for rent, food, clothes etc now if married and kids involved different story

[Gary and Alla 3,694]

alot does depend on the history of the embassy BUT i think the general thought is dont mention money especially for k1, you each had a established life before you met why now would someone need money for rent, food, clothes etc now if married and kids involved different story

Lots of reasons Brookie

Alla was receiving child support which she surrendered in order to get the father to sign permission letters which the US government required for her to get a visa for the children to leave the country...loss of income from her "established" life prior to our relationship.

One of the children did not speak English and would, in 9 months time, be transferred to an American 8th grade English class. As it turned out he was moved to a 10th grade class within a few months after arrival as we PAID to have intensive English tutoring in Ukraine prior to him arriving...Alla certainly did not have money put aside to surrender child support AND pay for tutoring prior to our relationship. It also shows that with some improvement American 8th graders will soon be able to speak English as well as Ukrainians. Increase in expenses from her "established" life.

There is also the expenses of travel for medicals and interviews, buying luggage fro the international relocation of a family, medical expenses which arose after we began the relationship (Yes, Ukraine has national health insurance like Obama wants for us, but if you REALLY want medicial care you have to pay the doctors CASH or wait in line for months..or die...all the same to them) Increase in expenses from her prior "established" life.

To insinuate the joining of two people's lives (here, there or anywhere) and the international relocation of families does not incurr expense is ludicrous. Not "mentioning it" does not chage facts. If you wish to "not mention it" or feel you need to "not mention it" then by all means do so. Please do not invent silly reasoning to explain why your fiance would "not need" money. If your fiance would "not need" money before marrying you, why would he/she need it after? How does "marriage" increase expenses? They never mentioned that to me at the ceremony. Family and life status change expenses, not marital status. Children do not just disappear because you are not yet married, they do not stop eating or needing clothes and when the adults decisions affect the life of the children then the adults better address it and PAY for it.

I was proud to present the fact that we acted as responsible adults and developed a family budget. But I do not think it affected our case (good or bad). So for most it is a moot point...which is a fact. Trying to insinuate that everything stays as it did before is NOT a fact. If you want to "forget to mention" that you and your fiancee are acting as responsible adults because of the oppressive consulate you are forced to deal with...by all means do so.

[TBoneTX 45,304]

The best advice here is to omit Western Union receipts and to substitute other information that cannot be misinterpreted or raise any red flags.

[Anagramma 2]

alot does depend on the history of the embassy BUT i think the general thought is dont mention money especially for k1, you each had a established life before you met why now would someone need money for rent, food, clothes etc now if married and kids involved different story

Lots of reasons Brookie

Alla was receiving child support which she surrendered in order to get the father to sign permission letters which the US government required for her to get a visa for the children to leave the country...loss of income from her "established" life prior to our relationship.

One of the children did not speak English and would, in 9 months time, be transferred to an American 8th grade English class. As it turned out he was moved to a 10th grade class within a few months after arrival as we PAID to have intensive English tutoring in Ukraine prior to him arriving...Alla certainly did not have money put aside to surrender child support AND pay for tutoring prior to our relationship. It also shows that with some improvement American 8th graders will soon be able to speak English as well as Ukrainians. Increase in expenses from her "established" life.

There is also the expenses of travel for medicals and interviews, buying luggage fro the international relocation of a family, medical expenses which arose after we began the relationship (Yes, Ukraine has national health insurance like Obama wants for us, but if you REALLY want medicial care you have to pay the doctors CASH or wait in line for months..or die...all the same to them) Increase in expenses from her prior "established" life.

To insinuate the joining of two people's lives (here, there or anywhere) and the international relocation of families does not incurr expense is ludicrous. Not "mentioning it" does not chage facts. If you wish to "not mention it" or feel you need to "not mention it" then by all means do so. Please do not invent silly reasoning to explain why your fiance would "not need" money. If your fiance would "not need" money before marrying you, why would he/she need it after? How does "marriage" increase expenses? They never mentioned that to me at the ceremony. Family and life status change expenses, not marital status. Children do not just disappear because you are not yet married, they do not stop eating or needing clothes and when the adults decisions affect the life of the children then the adults better address it and PAY for it.

I was proud to present the fact that we acted as responsible adults and developed a family budget. But I do not think it affected our case (good or bad). So for most it is a moot point...which is a fact. Trying to insinuate that everything stays as it did before is NOT a fact. If you want to "forget to mention" that you and your fiancee are acting as responsible adults because of the oppressive consulate you are forced to deal with...by all means do so.

THANK YOU so much for the reply

[Anagramma 2]

thank you for all advices. there are