I am outraged!

[SuperDuper! 230]

To the OP: If you were not ready to wait six months for your approval (which the USCIS states is the normal processing time) then you shouldn't have submitted a petition. There is no "right" to a speedy immigration process. Yes, its not fun waiting, but it is what it is.

Trust me, after you are united with your loved one, the bad feelings will quickly fade. I was stuck at the NVC for 50 days just a few monts ago ... Simply a distant memory now.

Again, you're missing the point. The process CAN be faster, more expeditious, more efficient. It just isn't because USCIS doesn't NEED to make it that way, mostly because most people just DEAL with it. Why would any of you want to discourage someone from trying to make a positive change in this process? It almost seems spiteful to be so discouraging, especially if you've already completed the process.

Man this thread is frustrating to read! I think I'll stop now!

Me too. We can only hope and pray that it gets locked to stop the insanity. Anyone who files a petition must learn to "hurry up and wait" like those brave souls who have gone before us.

[daboyz 36]

To the OP: If you were not ready to wait six months for your approval (which the USCIS states is the normal processing time) then you shouldn't have submitted a petition. There is no "right" to a speedy immigration process. Yes, its not fun waiting, but it is what it is.

Trust me, after you are united with your loved one, the bad feelings will quickly fade. I was stuck at the NVC for 50 days just a few monts ago ... Simply a distant memory now.

Again, you're missing the point. The process CAN be faster, more expeditious, more efficient. It just isn't because USCIS doesn't NEED to make it that way, mostly because most people just DEAL with it. Why would any of you want to discourage someone from trying to make a positive change in this process? It almost seems spiteful to be so discouraging, especially if you've already completed the process.

Man this thread is frustrating to read! I think I'll stop now!

Me too. We can only hope and pray that it gets locked to stop the insanity. Anyone who files a petition must learn to "hurry up and wait" like those brave souls who have gone before us.

Hmm. Why would it get locked. There has been no TOS violations that I can tell. Don't keep reading if you don't like what you see.

Edited July 22, 2009 by daboyz

[ButterBoy 0]

To the OP: If you were not ready to wait six months for your approval (which the USCIS states is the normal processing time) then you shouldn't have submitted a petition. There is no "right" to a speedy immigration process. Yes, its not fun waiting, but it is what it is.

Trust me, after you are united with your loved one, the bad feelings will quickly fade. I was stuck at the NVC for 50 days just a few monts ago ... Simply a distant memory now.

Again, you're missing the point. The process CAN be faster, more expeditious, more efficient. It just isn't because USCIS doesn't NEED to make it that way, mostly because most people just DEAL with it. Why would any of you want to discourage someone from trying to make a positive change in this process? It almost seems spiteful to be so discouraging, especially if you've already completed the process.

Man this thread is frustrating to read! I think I'll stop now!

Hey if the op wants to write letters to Tom,####### and Harry, let him. From what I can tell many before me and including me have done so. I don't think anyone is telling him not to, we are just telling him it wont change a thing. I look at all my years in the Middle East working for my employer and in later years at a desk evualating reports and based on my reports, um never mind that, but what do I get? Stuck in a background check because of the time I spent working in the Middle East. What a way to repay a patriot. Write your letters do your complaining have fun.

[daboyz 36]

To the OP: If you were not ready to wait six months for your approval (which the USCIS states is the normal processing time) then you shouldn't have submitted a petition. There is no "right" to a speedy immigration process. Yes, its not fun waiting, but it is what it is.

Trust me, after you are united with your loved one, the bad feelings will quickly fade. I was stuck at the NVC for 50 days just a few monts ago ... Simply a distant memory now.

Again, you're missing the point. The process CAN be faster, more expeditious, more efficient. It just isn't because USCIS doesn't NEED to make it that way, mostly because most people just DEAL with it. Why would any of you want to discourage someone from trying to make a positive change in this process? It almost seems spiteful to be so discouraging, especially if you've already completed the process.

Man this thread is frustrating to read! I think I'll stop now!

Hey if the op wants to write letters to Tom,####### and Harry, let him. From what I can tell many before me and including me have done so. I don't think anyone is telling him not to, we are just telling him it wont change a thing. I look at all my years in the Middle East working for my employer and in later years at a desk evualating reports and based on my reports, um never mind that, but what do I get? Stuck in a background check because of the time I spent working in the Middle East. What a way to repay a patriot. Write your letters do your complaining have fun.

Do you have a security clearance? I have seen some other odd posts on here with the US citizen having security clearances and running into some weird things. You might search this site.

[sjr09 155]

Hello fellow VJers!

I am outraged at the fact that VSC is operating at such a slow pace. In the last few months they have slowed in aproving petitions drasticaly. Our lives are tied in this, our finances, our jobs, future, even our health. I myself I am putting off buying a home and loosing a lot of money in finance charges and the $8000 goverment stimulus because they are moving so slow. CSC is working on petitions from May while VSC is still November and December. This is not acceptable and unless we bring this to their attention nothing will happen.

I know that we are at their mercy but we can stir the waters and write some letters to USCIS ombudsman, to senators, congressmen, even to the white house. I believe that if they get enough letters maybe someone might take a look at this problem and try to do something about it. One: it is our right as US citizens to pursue hapiness and two: it is a service we paid for. If we do nothing about it nothing will happen but if we draw some attention to this problem, maybe something might happen and have them hire more, train more, or at least try to do something to rectify the situation. If we don't write, call, complain they will not act on anything.

Mr. President spoke about "change" lets ask for change in this department!

Has anyone looked at his/her timeline comon be real here! I have not held my wife or daugher for all most 12 mo. now, suck it up and be a man..

[TwoTravelers 0]

Hello fellow VJers!

I am outraged at the fact that VSC is operating at such a slow pace. In the last few months they have slowed in aproving petitions drasticaly. Our lives are tied in this, our finances, our jobs, future, even our health. I myself I am putting off buying a home and loosing a lot of money in finance charges and the $8000 goverment stimulus because they are moving so slow. CSC is working on petitions from May while VSC is still November and December. This is not acceptable and unless we bring this to their attention nothing will happen.

I know that we are at their mercy but we can stir the waters and write some letters to USCIS ombudsman, to senators, congressmen, even to the white house. I believe that if they get enough letters maybe someone might take a look at this problem and try to do something about it. One: it is our right as US citizens to pursue hapiness and two: it is a service we paid for. If we do nothing about it nothing will happen but if we draw some attention to this problem, maybe something might happen and have them hire more, train more, or at least try to do something to rectify the situation. If we don't write, call, complain they will not act on anything.

Mr. President spoke about "change" lets ask for change in this department!

One of the problems of why the process is so long and complicated is because USCIS has hired more and trained more since 9/11. It's just gotten too big. The system is supposedly protecting us from terrorism when it's really just hurting the good people... terrorists can go where they want when they want because they are, well, terrorists. What we need is for the system to become less complicated not more and unfortunately the government plans on expanding the USCIS which probably means the fees will go up.

In addition to this I would like to add a story that is truly angering and making the legal immigrants process that much more painful...

I met a Polish girl that came to the states about 5 years ago, loved it and wanted to stay but her Polish boyfriend was back in Poland. So she returned home, they got married and then planned on moving to the States. They bought tickets and arrived in the US. Didn't bother going through any legal immigration, no that's too complicated... as we all know. Well, she is happily living here with her husband and two children (that are US Citizens because they were born here and all was paid for by the State when they were born in the hospital). They both have jobs being paid under the table and... this it the best part... receiving welfare checks every month since, of course, they are poor and have no jobs. I also found out that it is against the law in these welfare offices to ask if someone is illegal. My blood was boiling when I heard this.

So, will change come for us?... No. Should we fight?... Yes. How?... Don't know, because no one in any position of authority cares about us.

[daboyz 36]

Hello fellow VJers!

I am outraged at the fact that VSC is operating at such a slow pace. In the last few months they have slowed in aproving petitions drasticaly. Our lives are tied in this, our finances, our jobs, future, even our health. I myself I am putting off buying a home and loosing a lot of money in finance charges and the $8000 goverment stimulus because they are moving so slow. CSC is working on petitions from May while VSC is still November and December. This is not acceptable and unless we bring this to their attention nothing will happen.

I know that we are at their mercy but we can stir the waters and write some letters to USCIS ombudsman, to senators, congressmen, even to the white house. I believe that if they get enough letters maybe someone might take a look at this problem and try to do something about it. One: it is our right as US citizens to pursue hapiness and two: it is a service we paid for. If we do nothing about it nothing will happen but if we draw some attention to this problem, maybe something might happen and have them hire more, train more, or at least try to do something to rectify the situation. If we don't write, call, complain they will not act on anything.

Mr. President spoke about "change" lets ask for change in this department!

Has anyone looked at his/her timeline comon be real here! I have not held my wife or daugher for all most 12 mo. now, suck it up and be a man..

I saw my wife once over 2 years during all this. You still are doing the smart thing going CR-1. Once she get's here it will be much easier.

[sjr09 155]

I am a little shocked that people want this to continue in this manner? Sure everyone who already has their loved one can sit back now and lay low. But would you want someone else to go through the same heartache and trouble as you did before when you went through this process? Thats a bit selfish if you should think that someone else after you has to wait in line like the rest of you people. I know you waited a long time but the system should be always getting better. If it has gotten better in the past it should be continuously getting better till one day the results are exceptionally quick. So whats gotten USCIS's attention in the past? What seems to work in fighting for our rights?

Hey lets have immigration take 10 days and fill our country up with bad people who want nothing more then to crash planes into buildings and blow school buses up!!! I'm all for population control!!

It has nothing to do with our loved ones being here already, it has all to do waiting your turn, keeping out the would be bombers and making people who live in the VCS service region whine and cry!!! Just over a year ago it was VCS who was fast and CSC that was slow. Such is life. Write your letters and complain and let me know how the IRS visit was

HELLO it's like that now!

Edited July 22, 2009 by sjr09

[daboyz 36]

Hello fellow VJers!

I am outraged at the fact that VSC is operating at such a slow pace. In the last few months they have slowed in aproving petitions drasticaly. Our lives are tied in this, our finances, our jobs, future, even our health. I myself I am putting off buying a home and loosing a lot of money in finance charges and the $8000 goverment stimulus because they are moving so slow. CSC is working on petitions from May while VSC is still November and December. This is not acceptable and unless we bring this to their attention nothing will happen.

I know that we are at their mercy but we can stir the waters and write some letters to USCIS ombudsman, to senators, congressmen, even to the white house. I believe that if they get enough letters maybe someone might take a look at this problem and try to do something about it. One: it is our right as US citizens to pursue hapiness and two: it is a service we paid for. If we do nothing about it nothing will happen but if we draw some attention to this problem, maybe something might happen and have them hire more, train more, or at least try to do something to rectify the situation. If we don't write, call, complain they will not act on anything.

Mr. President spoke about "change" lets ask for change in this department!

One of the problems of why the process is so long and complicated is because USCIS has hired more and trained more since 9/11. It's just gotten too big. The system is supposedly protecting us from terrorism when it's really just hurting the good people... terrorists can go where they want when they want because they are, well, terrorists. What we need is for the system to become less complicated not more and unfortunately the government plans on expanding the USCIS which probably means the fees will go up.

In addition to this I would like to add a story that is truly angering and making the legal immigrants process that much more painful...

I met a Polish girl that came to the states about 5 years ago, loved it and wanted to stay but her Polish boyfriend was back in Poland. So she returned home, they got married and then planned on moving to the States. They bought tickets and arrived in the US. Didn't bother going through any legal immigration, no that's too complicated... as we all know. Well, she is happily living here with her husband and two children (that are US Citizens because they were born here and all was paid for by the State when they were born in the hospital). They both have jobs being paid under the table and... this it the best part... receiving welfare checks every month since, of course, they are poor and have no jobs. I also found out that it is against the law in these welfare offices to ask if someone is illegal. My blood was boiling when I heard this.

So, will change come for us?... No. Should we fight?... Yes. How?... Don't know, because no one in any position of authority cares about us.

Well I feel bad for the kids. Cause if the parents get caught, they will be on the first thing smoking back to Warsaw unless they can find someone to take care of them here. Kinda sad they stake their children's future on them being out of status and here illegally.

[David Allen 3]

No - not feeling beaten down by "the man". It's a combination of low expectation of Government Bureaucracy (are these really the SAME people we want in charge of health care??) and the reality that there are about a billion people who want to come to this country and I for one am thankful that although our southern boarder is completly unsecured - there is at least a small amount of screening going on somewhere.

Why is everyone shooting him down? None of us is happy with the way this process is handled and that VSC is so far behind CSC. If he wants to try to organize a letter-writing campaign, why discourage him? Are we so beaten down by "the man" that we believe that this process is actually satisfactory? In this day and age and with the technology available to us, NOTHING should take as long as this does.

[justcheckin 0]

I know this thread is long enough already but just couldn't help but to make a comment or ask probably a rhetorical question. What exactly does the USCIS do? They collect applications and documents and review them. They have no way of knowing if a relationship is legit or not. How long can it take to review an I-130 + supporting docs? Well, mortgage or any other applications are processed real fast and these are also subject to possible fraud. Can you imagine waiting 6+ months to have your loan approved? This is how USCIS should work - they get an I-130 with all supporting docs, they approve it instantly unless they sense that somethings wrong. A lot of applications is routine and simple. Why take so much time to review them? Let's take my example. Why do I have to wait 5 months or more to have my child's I-130 approved. She's only 9 months old, there is a birth certificate and all the documents. What more do they need to check? It should be an instant approval. After all the NVC does another review.

Well, that's the benefit of working for the government. They won't rush, ever. It's a constant coffee break and a completely different world. If those were loan officers or underwriters in a bank or mortgage company they wouldn't keep their jobs for too long. And still we end up paying big bucks for this kind of service.

[daboyz 36]

No - not feeling beaten down by "the man". It's a combination of low expectation of Government Bureaucracy (are these really the SAME people we want in charge of health care??) and the reality that there are about a billion people who want to come to this country and I for one am thankful that although our southern boarder is completly unsecured - there is at least a small amount of screening going on somewhere.

Why is everyone shooting him down? None of us is happy with the way this process is handled and that VSC is so far behind CSC. If he wants to try to organize a letter-writing campaign, why discourage him? Are we so beaten down by "the man" that we believe that this process is actually satisfactory? In this day and age and with the technology available to us, NOTHING should take as long as this does.

They seem to complete this process in around 30 days for in the E.U. Wondering where these billion people are that want to come here? My three years in Asia I never met one. That includes places like Pakistan, Bangladesh, India, Philippines and on and on.

I think it's just a government agency that is:

1. Underfunded

2. Inefficient

3. Maybe just sucking off the government teat. Remember there is no incentive for USCIS to do a good job. Paper pushing job. Now they have the unions involved. So there's another reason to go slower. Slower they go, more justification to hire more union employees.

[Stephen + Elisha 92]

I know this thread is long enough already but just couldn't help but to make a comment or ask probably a rhetorical question. What exactly does the USCIS do? They collect applications and documents and review them. They have no way of knowing if a relationship is legit or not. How long can it take to review an I-130 + supporting docs? Well, mortgage or any other applications are processed real fast and these are also subject to possible fraud. Can you imagine waiting 6+ months to have your loan approved? This is how USCIS should work - they get an I-130 with all supporting docs, they approve it instantly unless they sense that somethings wrong. A lot of applications is routine and simple. Why take so much time to review them? Let's take my example. Why do I have to wait 5 months or more to have my child's I-130 approved. She's only 9 months old, there is a birth certificate and all the documents. What more do they need to check? It should be an instant approval. After all the NVC does another review.

Well, that's the benefit of working for the government. They won't rush, ever. It's a constant coffee break and a completely different world. If those were loan officers or underwriters in a bank or mortgage company they wouldn't keep their jobs for too long. And still we end up paying big bucks for this kind of service.

There's wisdom from our friend...

[daboyz 36]

I know this thread is long enough already but just couldn't help but to make a comment or ask probably a rhetorical question. What exactly does the USCIS do? They collect applications and documents and review them. They have no way of knowing if a relationship is legit or not. How long can it take to review an I-130 + supporting docs? Well, mortgage or any other applications are processed real fast and these are also subject to possible fraud. Can you imagine waiting 6+ months to have your loan approved? This is how USCIS should work - they get an I-130 with all supporting docs, they approve it instantly unless they sense that somethings wrong. A lot of applications is routine and simple. Why take so much time to review them? Let's take my example. Why do I have to wait 5 months or more to have my child's I-130 approved. She's only 9 months old, there is a birth certificate and all the documents. What more do they need to check? It should be an instant approval. After all the NVC does another review.

Well, that's the benefit of working for the government. They won't rush, ever. It's a constant coffee break and a completely different world. If those were loan officers or underwriters in a bank or mortgage company they wouldn't keep their jobs for too long. And still we end up paying big bucks for this kind of service.

Great post. There is no other reason than job security. The have a monopoly on this process, and they know it. There is no competition. So they are ALWAYS going to at least give the perception that they are overwhelmed.

[Sinergy 3]

The point to be taken is...USCIS is as is, just because your here on VJ, and you know an estimate of petitioners on VJ, doesnt mean squat. There are thousands of petitions before ours...and the adjudicators can only work so fast, lets remember, they are humans not robots. The whole arguing and bickering back and forth about USCIS needs to be faster is tiring. We all know it can be faster, doesnt mean it will be. No service center is better than the other...they both have a heavy work load. We all chose to go through this process, some people learned a bit about it before starting and were prepared for the 90-120 wait for approval, some people just filed the papers not taking the time to investigate the process, either way, there is a wait, and really nothing you can do about it, other than move to your SO's country. The adjudicators do not just work on k-1 and k-3 visas, they work on many different types. Venting is good...but patience is the most important thing in this process, including knowledge. If you have neither one, you will go crazy before your approval.