timeline help

[Mike and Thanh 0]

Ok, I'm starting to write my timeline and I need some help. I know about the detailed timeline, I don't have a problem with that. I do have a problem with the dates and name of the places. What if I don't remember the exact date of an event or where we went to eat or something like that? I remember the important dates such as when I proposed to her, when I went to Vietnam, and things like that, but some other smaller details I might not remember. Also like where I proposed to her, I know the date but don't remember the name of the place. She doesn't remember either. All I know it was at a cafe. There are so many cafes in HCM that they all look the same to me, also their names too. Can I just said the date and at a cafe, is that good enough? Also will the CO look at the timeline and ask my fiancee a question that she came up with by looking at the timeline? And is there a suggested length of this timeline? I don't think mine will go over 3 pages. The notary only have to notarized the last page right? The page where I sign my name when I go there?

My fiancee talked to a lawyer in VN about the timeline. The lawyer told her while it was good to have a timeline, it's not necessary needed. He told my fiancee to tell me to make the timeline and keep it when I send it to her but don't bring it with her. Something about if they know you have the timeline in advance, they would think someone told you about this and will think your case is a fraud. What the lawyer said didn't make sense to me. I'm going to make one anyway and send it to her.

[hniHnitsuJ 8]

Ok, I'm starting to write my timeline and I need some help. I know about the detailed timeline, I don't have a problem with that. I do have a problem with the dates and name of the places. What if I don't remember the exact date of an event or where we went to eat or something like that? I remember the important dates such as when I proposed to her, when I went to Vietnam, and things like that, but some other smaller details I might not remember. Also like where I proposed to her, I know the date but don't remember the name of the place. She doesn't remember either. All I know it was at a cafe. There are so many cafes in HCM that they all look the same to me, also their names too. Can I just said the date and at a cafe, is that good enough? Also will the CO look at the timeline and ask my fiancee a question that she came up with by looking at the timeline? And is there a suggested length of this timeline? I don't think mine will go over 3 pages. The notary only have to notarized the last page right? The page where I sign my name when I go there?

Do you or your finacee remember the street of the name in that CAFE-shop in HCM? Maybe I can help you out.

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[ddartt1 2]

The name of the cafe should not be a big deal. If your fiance remembers the dates she should not have a problem with any questions asked by the CO but she can have the timeline just incase. We wish you the best of luck!

[JimVaPhuong 4,863]

Ok, I'm starting to write my timeline and I need some help. I know about the detailed timeline, I don't have a problem with that. I do have a problem with the dates and name of the places. What if I don't remember the exact date of an event or where we went to eat or something like that? I remember the important dates such as when I proposed to her, when I went to Vietnam, and things like that, but some other smaller details I might not remember. Also like where I proposed to her, I know the date but don't remember the name of the place. She doesn't remember either. All I know it was at a cafe. There are so many cafes in HCM that they all look the same to me, also their names too. Can I just said the date and at a cafe, is that good enough? Also will the CO look at the timeline and ask my fiancee a question that she came up with by looking at the timeline? And is there a suggested length of this timeline? I don't think mine will go over 3 pages. The notary only have to notarized the last page right? The page where I sign my name when I go there?

My fiancee talked to a lawyer in VN about the timeline. The lawyer told her while it was good to have a timeline, it's not necessary needed. He told my fiancee to tell me to make the timeline and keep it when I send it to her but don't bring it with her. Something about if they know you have the timeline in advance, they would think someone told you about this and will think your case is a fraud. What the lawyer said didn't make sense to me. I'm going to make one anyway and send it to her.

First, they're not going to think she's a fraud for being prepared. These interviews don't happen in a vacuum. They know that visa applicants talk to each other about the interview. I'll bet they even know about this forum. The fact that they frequently ask for the timeline is no secret, and many people have gone to the interview and brought the timeline with them. I've never heard of anybody being accused of fraud because they knew what to expect at the consulate in HCM, and came prepared.

If you submit the timeline before the interview then there is a strong chance that they will ask questions based on the timeline. In fact, one VJ member said that nearly every question they asked came from his timeline. Your fiance should know all of the details about what you write in the timeline.

They don't expect you to remember each and every tiny detail. I doubt they'll have any problems if you don't remember the name of a restaurant. Heck, I've eaten in a couple dozen restaurants in Vietnam, and the only one I remember the name of is the one where we had our engagement party.

[David-Hien 11]

Ok, I'm starting to write my timeline and I need some help. I know about the detailed timeline, I don't have a problem with that. I do have a problem with the dates and name of the places. What if I don't remember the exact date of an event or where we went to eat or something like that? I remember the important dates such as when I proposed to her, when I went to Vietnam, and things like that, but some other smaller details I might not remember. Also like where I proposed to her, I know the date but don't remember the name of the place. She doesn't remember either. All I know it was at a cafe. There are so many cafes in HCM that they all look the same to me, also their names too. Can I just said the date and at a cafe, is that good enough? Also will the CO look at the timeline and ask my fiancee a question that she came up with by looking at the timeline? And is there a suggested length of this timeline? I don't think mine will go over 3 pages. The notary only have to notarized the last page right? The page where I sign my name when I go there?

My fiancee talked to a lawyer in VN about the timeline. The lawyer told her while it was good to have a timeline, it's not necessary needed. He told my fiancee to tell me to make the timeline and keep it when I send it to her but don't bring it with her. Something about if they know you have the timeline in advance, they would think someone told you about this and will think your case is a fraud. What the lawyer said didn't make sense to me. I'm going to make one anyway and send it to her.

In timeline, you only need to list the important events such as: when you know each other first time, first meeting in person, the time you come to VN (date of the trips), proposal date, engagement date, ... It means the points of time that are meaningful in your relationship.

You don't need to list detail every day what you did in your trip in VN. You should make your timeline, don't mind of what the lawyer said.

Edited July 21, 2009 by Hien

[calilove 0]

Ok, I'm starting to write my timeline and I need some help. I know about the detailed timeline, I don't have a problem with that. I do have a problem with the dates and name of the places. What if I don't remember the exact date of an event or where we went to eat or something like that? I remember the important dates such as when I proposed to her, when I went to Vietnam, and things like that, but some other smaller details I might not remember. Also like where I proposed to her, I know the date but don't remember the name of the place. She doesn't remember either. All I know it was at a cafe. There are so many cafes in HCM that they all look the same to me, also their names too. Can I just said the date and at a cafe, is that good enough? Also will the CO look at the timeline and ask my fiancee a question that she came up with by looking at the timeline? And is there a suggested length of this timeline? I don't think mine will go over 3 pages. The notary only have to notarized the last page right? The page where I sign my name when I go there?

My fiancee talked to a lawyer in VN about the timeline. The lawyer told her while it was good to have a timeline, it's not necessary needed. He told my fiancee to tell me to make the timeline and keep it when I send it to her but don't bring it with her. Something about if they know you have the timeline in advance, they would think someone told you about this and will think your case is a fraud. What the lawyer said didn't make sense to me. I'm going to make one anyway and send it to her.

I really hope what you said is not true because my fiancée is currently having her interview. She will be turning in the timeline at the same time

[Mike and Thanh 0]

I was wondering what if there was something missing be it the timeline or something else, is there a required time limit on when the person can bring the missing items in and possibly get the pink slip? Let say, if the interview is today and got denied because it's missing the timeline or anything else, but the petitioner won't be back in Vietnam until a week or so later to bring the missing items in himself? Will that be ok? And also what would the applicant need to bring back to the consulate the second time? Sorry for all this questions, I'm just curious. I heard a bunch of different things.

[ScottThuy 140]

I was wondering what if there was something missing be it the timeline or something else, is there a required time limit on when the person can bring the missing items in and possibly get the pink slip? Let say, if the interview is today and got denied because it's missing the timeline or anything else, but the petitioner won't be back in Vietnam until a week or so later to bring the missing items in himself? Will that be ok? And also what would the applicant need to bring back to the consulate the second time? Sorry for all this questions, I'm just curious. I heard a bunch of different things.

If they ask for something you dont have at interview.. they give blue and say come back... often times give specific date to return, but I have read where people have provided items prior to the date given to return. hopefully they take it first time and give pink..

[Mike and Thanh 0]

Thanks Scott and others who answered my questions. I'm glad I joined VJ, only you guys know what it's like to go through this.

I got another question. I'm going to make a relatives list. She only have maybe 3 or 4 relatives here in the U.S. I think. How should I make the list? Just their names, addresses, relationship to her, and picture ID like driver's license? Can put like the list of the relatives on one page and the next page I put their pictures? Or maybe each page should include their name and their pic for each person?

[ScottThuy 140]

Thanks Scott and others who answered my questions. I'm glad I joined VJ, only you guys know what it's like to go through this.

I got another question. I'm going to make a relatives list. She only have maybe 3 or 4 relatives here in the U.S. I think. How should I make the list? Just their names, addresses, relationship to her, and picture ID like driver's license? Can put like the list of the relatives on one page and the next page I put their pictures? Or maybe each page should include their name and their pic for each person?

IMO I would have 1 page listing all with name address and relationship followed by an individual page for each showing their ID. Do you know any of her relatives here?

[JimVaPhuong 4,863]

Picture ID? I've never heard of that requirement. Do they actually ask for that?

I listed names, addresses (if known), phone numbers (if known), relationship to beneficiary, and whether I knew them. If I knew them then I also listed how and when we met.

[ScottThuy 140]

Picture ID? I've never heard of that requirement. Do they actually ask for that?

I listed names, addresses (if known), phone numbers (if known), relationship to beneficiary, and whether I knew them. If I knew them then I also listed how and when we met.

I have not heard of it being asked for, but proof of residence of relative provided by petitioner... it is surely more than they want but in this case if it is easy to get why not get it...

[JimVaPhuong 4,863]

Picture ID? I've never heard of that requirement. Do they actually ask for that?

I listed names, addresses (if known), phone numbers (if known), relationship to beneficiary, and whether I knew them. If I knew them then I also listed how and when we met.

I have not heard of it being asked for, but proof of residence of relative provided by petitioner... it is surely more than they want but in this case if it is easy to get why not get it...

I didn't provide proof of residence either.

Well, I suppose I could get it. They all live within about 50 miles of me.

[ScottThuy 140]

Picture ID? I've never heard of that requirement. Do they actually ask for that?

I listed names, addresses (if known), phone numbers (if known), relationship to beneficiary, and whether I knew them. If I knew them then I also listed how and when we met.

I have not heard of it being asked for, but proof of residence of relative provided by petitioner... it is surely more than they want but in this case if it is easy to get why not get it...

I didn't provide proof of residence either.

Well, I suppose I could get it. They all live within about 50 miles of me.

just that extra bit of evidence showing that you dont live with any of them..

[Mike and Thanh 0]

IMO I would have 1 page listing all with name address and relationship followed by an individual page for each showing their ID. Do you know any of her relatives here?

Yes she does have relatives here. There are two in California and one in Boston, also one in Canada, but that doesn't count. I don't know of any others. She could have others. I never met any of them before. I'm probably going to do the one page listing of their names, addresses, relationship to her, and whether I met of not. Then the next page will be maybe their copy of their licenses. I hope they have a fax machine, would be faster.