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[slim 1,523]

Dont worry honey daddy bought a thousand rounds awhile ago and 2 extra magazines for the sig.

I shudder when I think of loading 1,000 rounds into handgun mags, two at a time. Sore thumbs for weeks!

I go round and round with some of my buddies who are "prepared" because they have like 400 rounds for their Glock .40cal. I ask them, "ah, prepared for what?" When I insist they attempt to trade both their Glock and ammo for an SKS and 100 rounds, they go crazy. "Yeah right, like I'm ever going to need a rifle."

The thought that makes me giggle hysterically is that very likely, a large majority of those idiots who stocked up on ammunition because they just knew Obama was gonna try to take their guns away (despite the fact that it was the previous administration and the losing candidate who had the worse civil liberties records), had to take up government assistance and food stamps because they spent all their money trying to make a stupid point. So the very same dumbasses who are screaming about the illegals using up all of your tax dollars are probably the same ones you are now supporting with your tax dollars because some time around February they figured out that there is more to life than just guns and bullets, such as providing food for your family and rent on your trailer.

It wasn't the hillbillies that caused the shortage. (Hillbillies traditionally have enough to get them through whatever "crisis" looms.)

It was the college-educated soccer moms and families who took a 3-1 ARM on their Countrywide loan. The same folks who watch American Idol and get their Fair and Balanced news from Fox. The folks who sit with their head firmly planted under their backsides until they realize it's hard to breathe like that. People who think Dr. Phil gives good advice and wish Oprah was presi.... hey, wait a minute.

What's going to happen in the next couple of years is all those yuppies who bought, literally, thousands of dollars worth of ammo to stick in the basement of their cookie-cutter home next to their never-fired AK-47, their wives are going to get on them about that balloon payment and they're going to end up selling their AK-47 and the 3,000 rounds of ammo they bought with it for $2300 to some hillbilly (like myself!) for a deep, deep discount. Something to the tune of $500 just so their wife will shut her yap.

Don't call me an idiot Mox; those rounds of milsurp will go to pay for preschool for the little one. ONLY IN AMERICA!

Bought low and will sell high.

Like any other investment, there is risk involved. But, guns and ammo aren't like buying a used car - it doesn't depreciate. It may be artificially inflated for a time, but the intrinsic value will always stay the same.

I have a buddy who's been telling me to buy gold. "You need gold because it's always going to be worth something and you can trade it for whatever you want."

"yeah.... but with my gun and bullets I can take your gold and whatever else I want." I mean, seriously, if it ever comes to the point where we're trading in gold (because the dollar is useless) ammo is going to be worth it's weight in gold. (It's pretty close now!)

And maybe there'll be enough left over to buy ma her own trailer so she can stop living on your couch. (or is that Slim? I can't keep the rednecks straight around here. )

I'm proud to be a redneck in that aspect. My wife lets me know all the time how much of a redneck I am, but I think she understands that having a good rifle and plenty of ammo makes you a smart redneck!

What will you sell the ammo for a bag of chronic?

Ammo is worth way more than chronic now.

And don't forget, with ammo, you can get "free" chronic!

[G&R 0]

Agreed with ya Slim. I picked up new AR 10 at gun show in S.F. few months ago (Sweet unit ) Even The LIbs here buying guns . It's like they know they need to have back up plan if things dont go there way. My buddy told me they sell 125k worth of blk guns on sat. sold out sunday. He has been selling for over 10 years in S.F. . He know what your typical lib looks like here . Tells me he sees the fear in their eyes . Prepair for the worst hope for the best.

[slim 1,523]

What's an AR-10 run out there in Kali? Not only do you have the Obamanation prices, but you have to adjust for Kali inflation as well! STBU!

$125,000 on Saturday? Whew! Pelosi probably pissed her panties!

[G&R 0]

Amralite SPR 10 $3k hard to get here in kaily .It was the only one on the table . Also sold 2 semi loads of ammo in one day it was nuts. The lady speaker want to increase taxes on them and then ban um .

[Thomas-n-Elena 0]

Yes I want to go rifle shopping but for now I like to lure them in close and then plug them, besides most of the idiots in this city dont carry anything big, they are walking around with small caliber to match their small weapons to compensate for big egos and big mouths.

[mox 298]

The thought that makes me giggle hysterically is that very likely, a large majority of those idiots who stocked up on ammunition because they just knew Obama was gonna try to take their guns away (despite the fact that it was the previous administration and the losing candidate who had the worse civil liberties records), had to take up government assistance and food stamps because they spent all their money trying to make a stupid point. So the very same dumbasses who are screaming about the illegals using up all of your tax dollars are probably the same ones you are now supporting with your tax dollars because some time around February they figured out that there is more to life than just guns and bullets, such as providing food for your family and rent on your trailer.

It wasn't the hillbillies that caused the shortage. (Hillbillies traditionally have enough to get them through whatever "crisis" looms.)

It was the college-educated soccer moms and families who took a 3-1 ARM on their Countrywide loan. The same folks who watch American Idol and get their Fair and Balanced news from Fox. The folks who sit with their head firmly planted under their backsides until they realize it's hard to breathe like that. People who think Dr. Phil gives good advice and wish Oprah was presi.... hey, wait a minute.

What's going to happen in the next couple of years is all those yuppies who bought, literally, thousands of dollars worth of ammo to stick in the basement of their cookie-cutter home next to their never-fired AK-47, their wives are going to get on them about that balloon payment and they're going to end up selling their AK-47 and the 3,000 rounds of ammo they bought with it for $2300 to some hillbilly (like myself!) for a deep, deep discount. Something to the tune of $500 just so their wife will shut her yap.

That's not the segment of society I've seen on the teevee and my ** NPR. All I ever see are the angry NRA'ers (seriously fellow gun owners...the NRA does more harm to your cause than good. Next time that renewal notice comes, drop it in the recycle bin.) who show off their stupidly incredible collections of guns that have zero to do with self protection and/or hunting, and everything to do with killing human beings and/or because they can't mount a gun rack to a Corvette as a mid-life ####### extension. It has eff-all to do with exercising their 2nd amendment rights, and quite a lot to do with racism. And again I have to say that it just makes me laugh at the stupidity, because these knuckleheads are too caught up in their own paranoia to realize that the guy in office right now is working to roll back all the secret government ####### that was eventually going to create a fascist-enough state to completely ignore every civil right, including their right to bear arms. And while I can respect that a well-armed citizenry would make this difficult, I also understand that Americans have become so lazy and consumer goods-addicted that the possibility of an armed uprising against such fascism is about as likely as me winning America's Got Talent with my incredible "Kansas can lick my hairy dangly bits" talent.

Edited July 23, 2009 by mox

[Thomas-n-Elena 0]

winning America's Got Talent with my incredible "Kansas can lick my hairy dangly bits" talent.

Hmm I think I see an act forming now, Mox with the hairy dangly bits, slim in his dont look past the cammo apron, dima hiding under the couch, and me running around outside unemployed and naked. woo hoo watch out Nsync you boys are done. What out for Old guys with guns

[johnj 0]

What out for Old guys with guns

You missed the stereotype of men seeking Russian hotties

Old fat bald guys with guns

[Thomas-n-Elena 0]

What out for Old guys with guns

You missed the stereotype of men seeking Russian hotties

Old fat bald guys with guns

Sorry we can use the russian beauties as back up singers and they will change in every city like all the old fat bald guys in the US to trade in their wives on younger models.

[mox 298]

Speaking of all things AK-47...

http://englishrussia.com/?p=3452

[Thomas-n-Elena 0]

Speaking of all things AK-47...

http://englishrussia.com/?p=3452

Wow I almost have the whole collection I just need the coin from New Zeeland

[slim 1,523]

Yes I want to go rifle shopping but for now I like to lure them in close and then plug them, besides most of the idiots in this city dont carry anything big, they are walking around with small caliber to match their small weapons to compensate for big egos and big mouths.

Just don't step on their shoes!

That's not the segment of society I've seen on the teevee and my ** NPR.

So you mean the media has ignored all the college-educated, professional, middle-of-the-roaders who've all the sudden changed their minds on the evils for gun ownership and tried to make it appear like it's only rednecks and hillbillies who are buying up all the guns and ammo?

No way! They'd never do that! The media (including ** NPR) is all about the truth and unbiased reporting of the facts. I'm just wondering if one of their back-stories is going to come out later explaining how these redneck hillbillies all the sudden came upon BILLIONS of dollars of disposable income in such a short time period.

All I ever see are the angry NRA'ers (seriously fellow gun owners...the NRA does more harm to your cause than good. Next time that renewal notice comes, drop it in the recycle bin.) who show off their stupidly incredible collections of guns that have zero to do with self protection and/or hunting, and everything to do with killing human beings

Well, believe it or not, the 2nd Amendment is not about duck hunting - it's about killing human beings. Plain and simple, the 2nd Amendment is to ensure citizens have the means to overthrow their government by force if necessary. It is to ensure they possess rifles capable of killing human beings, not shotguns capable of shooting ducks.

It sounds horrible, and it is. That's why the founding fathers also gave us many other wonderful rights that we're to exhaust first. But they knew, they knew what would happen eventually and they knew the only way to stop it from happening completely was to have a citizenry that possessed the capability to do so. It's not politically correct to talk about killing human beings, especially politicians, but that's what the NRA is attempting to protect - they're just going about it in a politically correct manner - and that's what's so disheartening about them.

It's not that what they're doing is wrong, it's the entire system in which they play a part that's wrong.

and/or because they can't mount a gun rack to a Corvette as a mid-life ####### extension. It has eff-all to do with exercising their 2nd amendment rights, and quite a lot to do with racism.

So let me get this straight.... protecting the Constitutionally-guaranteed rights of law-abiding citizens is racist?

Last time I checked, there's absolutely nothing about race in the 2nd Amendment and in the modern era, since we've corrected the other Amendments to exclude race, the 2nd Amendment's been protecting all Americans without regard to race. As a matter of fact, you could conclude that it's even encouraging anyone and everyone to participate. Miliia - that's ALL able-bodied men ages 16-60. Now if you want to make a sexism or ageism case, be my guest, but that's also quickly overcome by "of the People" which would include everyone. All Americans. No age, sex, race. Nothing. Just Americans!

And again I have to say that it just makes me laugh at the stupidity, because these knuckleheads are too caught up in their own paranoia to realize that the guy in office right now is working to roll back all the secret government ####### that was eventually going to create a fascist-enough state to completely ignore every civil right, including their right to bear arms. And while I can respect that a well-armed citizenry would make this difficult, I also understand that Americans have become so lazy and consumer goods-addicted that the possibility of an armed uprising against such fascism is about as likely as me winning America's Got Talent with my incredible "Kansas can lick my hairy dangly bits" talent.

It's a matter of scale, really.

The fascist state that "could" be created if we keep willfully abandoning our rights may have the power to ignore civil rights, but that's the beauty of the 2nd Amendment. If EVERYONE owned a rifle it would be a lot harder for them to do it. Like you said though, as long as they keep watching ####### like America's Got Talent, they care less and less about their civil rights and eventually, they're content to give them all away and there aren't enough left that care enough to do something about it.

Right now, it's too large scale to make a difference. When all that gun ban hoopla was going on a simple question was raised - "if they can't even enforce the gun laws they have on the books now, how are they going to mount a collective effort to come take yours away?" They simply cannot do it. Not all at once, and not everywhere. But, 20 more years of "breeding it out" of us, and they may have a shot.

Speaking of all things AK-47...

http://englishrussia.com/?p=3452

Wow I almost have the whole collection I just need the coin from New Zeeland

Surprisingly enough, I do not, nor have I ever, owned an AK-47. It is on the wishlist though!

[Thomas-n-Elena 0]

I'm just wondering if one of their back-stories is going to come out later explaining how these redneck hillbillies all the sudden came upon BILLIONS of dollars of disposable income in such a short time period.

The other thing that hillbillies and rednecks are responsible for Moonshine. I read a report and saw a program on the TV about how the number of people getting back into the illegal liquor business is growing again and the government doesnt understand why. Simple question, taxes, it started the revolution in the 18th century and it will start the next one. When the government continues to tax excessively eventually the enlightened(not the college tards who study political science, but the people who spend time reading through the BS) will bring peoples awareness up and show them their government is no longer theirs. The revolution will renew.

Well, believe it or not, the 2nd Amendment is not about duck hunting - it's about killing human beings. Plain and simple, the 2nd Amendment is to ensure citizens have the means to overthrow their government by force if necessary. It is to ensure they possess rifles capable of killing human beings, not shotguns capable of shooting ducks.

It sounds horrible, and it is. That's why the founding fathers also gave us many other wonderful rights that we're to exhaust first. But they knew, they knew what would happen eventually and they knew the only way to stop it from happening completely was to have a citizenry that possessed the capability to do so. It's not politically correct to talk about killing human beings, especially politicians, but that's what the NRA is attempting to protect - they're just going about it in a politically correct manner - and that's what's so disheartening about them.

It's not that what they're doing is wrong, it's the entire system in which they play a part that's wrong.

Very true, its not even the system that is wrong, its what we have allowed the people who supposedly represent us do to the system that has warped it and made it wrong. We as voting citizens are just as responsible for what has happened to this country as the people we elect. If we trully want to function as a democracy we must get rid of the two party, will work for lobby money, system. There needs to be a renewal of our government, too many old fat bald guys(not married to russian hotties) that are out of touch with the people. The constitution says of the people, by the people, and for the people.

Surprisingly enough, I do not, nor have I ever, owned an AK-47. It is on the wishlist though!

mine too, I think its time to plan a boat trip to a banana republic and we can bring $20 each and buy an AK and several thousand rounds.

[mox 298]

That's not the segment of society I've seen on the teevee and my ** NPR.

So you mean the media has ignored all the college-educated, professional, middle-of-the-roaders who've all the sudden changed their minds on the evils for gun ownership and tried to make it appear like it's only rednecks and hillbillies who are buying up all the guns and ammo?

No way! They'd never do that! The media (including ** NPR) is all about the truth and unbiased reporting of the facts. I'm just wondering if one of their back-stories is going to come out later explaining how these redneck hillbillies all the sudden came upon BILLIONS of dollars of disposable income in such a short time period.

I don't doubt there's a class above and beyond the already-established rednecks that are buying guns, but this is a class of people who are also buying Harleys to drive to Starbucks and the golf course. They're not buying guns to exercise their 2nd ammendment, and they're not buying because they're scared to death that Obama's gonna take their newly purchased guns away. They're buying because they have a certain amount of disposable income, and they already have a Vespa in the garage so what the hell.

The segement of society that was driving the ammunition shortage are the wingnuts who are influenced by the likes of Bill O'Reilly, Shawn Hannity, and Rush Limbaugh. An influx of new gun owners would have created a shortage of guns along with the ammo. But it was only ammo that was (or maybe still is?) in short supply, indicating that it's already established gun owners who are doing the buying. And when they interview gun shop owners, inevitably it boils down to "we're all skairt of the niggra in dat der what-house."

With regards to the media, yeah I know we're in poor shape. But there are some media outlets that I trust more than others. NPR gets it right most of the time, as does BBC News. Cable news gets it right sort of like how a stopped clock gets it right twice a day. Probably the best source of news these days is, sadly enough, The Daily Show.

All I ever see are the angry NRA'ers (seriously fellow gun owners...the NRA does more harm to your cause than good. Next time that renewal notice comes, drop it in the recycle bin.) who show off their stupidly incredible collections of guns that have zero to do with self protection and/or hunting, and everything to do with killing human beings

Well, believe it or not, the 2nd Amendment is not about duck hunting - it's about killing human beings. Plain and simple, the 2nd Amendment is to ensure citizens have the means to overthrow their government by force if necessary. It is to ensure they possess rifles capable of killing human beings, not shotguns capable of shooting ducks.

It sounds horrible, and it is. That's why the founding fathers also gave us many other wonderful rights that we're to exhaust first. But they knew, they knew what would happen eventually and they knew the only way to stop it from happening completely was to have a citizenry that possessed the capability to do so. It's not politically correct to talk about killing human beings, especially politicians, but that's what the NRA is attempting to protect - they're just going about it in a politically correct manner - and that's what's so disheartening about them.

It's not that what they're doing is wrong, it's the entire system in which they play a part that's wrong.

We won't solve the gun debate here, but the purpose of the 2nd ammendment is "A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed." So you're right, it's not about duck hunting. But it's also not about being able to overthrow the government or to shoot somebody in the face because they insulted your mom. There's a lot of evidence to suggest that the right to bear arms was intended to allow American to defend her own borders against foreign invasion quickly. For example, every household in Switzerland is required to have a gun for just such a reason. They're not supposed to use it for home defense, and they're not allowed to take it out back and shoot tin cans. I'm not saying I agree with the restrictions placed on them, but my point is that we have extrapolated a LOT on the intention of the 2nd ammendment, and so I think in the general case it's absolutely ridiculous for someone to carry an arsenal of automatic weapons complete with a stockpile of cop-killing ammunition.

and/or because they can't mount a gun rack to a Corvette as a mid-life ####### extension. It has eff-all to do with exercising their 2nd amendment rights, and quite a lot to do with racism.

So let me get this straight.... protecting the Constitutionally-guaranteed rights of law-abiding citizens is racist?

Last time I checked, there's absolutely nothing about race in the 2nd Amendment and in the modern era, since we've corrected the other Amendments to exclude race, the 2nd Amendment's been protecting all Americans without regard to race. As a matter of fact, you could conclude that it's even encouraging anyone and everyone to participate. Miliia - that's ALL able-bodied men ages 16-60. Now if you want to make a sexism or ageism case, be my guest, but that's also quickly overcome by "of the People" which would include everyone. All Americans. No age, sex, race. Nothing. Just Americans!

Ah, you completely misquoted me. I didn't say protecting the rights of citizens was racist. I said that the motivation behind buying up all this ammunition had zero to do with exercising their rights, and everything to do with the fact that most of them are racist arseholes. There wasn't a run on ammunition when Clinton came into office, or Carter. Just Obama.

Remember too that I'm a gun owner and a full supporter of our 2nd amendment. But I'm also a Constitutionalist, and I don't believe the purpose of the 2nd amendment is what a lot of people and the NRA have turned it into.

Edited July 24, 2009 by mox

[BluesTraveler 0]

Probably the best source of news these days is, sadly enough, The Daily Show.

I thought I was the only person who thought that