Question about the packet you send in for IV bill

[meowmeowmeow 1]

Ok....so I'm at the point where I need to send in my I-1864 and my packet of proof of our relationship.

What I've got are tons of pics, emails, affidavits, and so on. I'm working on getting my records from T-Mobile, but that may not work because they're idiots.

My questions are only two:

1) In the event that I am unable to obtain my phone records, could I write a letter saying that I am not being allowed to retrieve them from T-Mobile and that I can't send them in due to this? Should I then suggest that they contact T-Mobile to get my phone records for the past 2 years?

2) When you send in the packet, is there a particular way to go about it? I'm extremely organized to begin with and thought I'd make a little binder with everything in plastic folders and color coded and all that. Is that extreme? Or should I just clip together everything according to what it is and send it in a basic manila envelope? What works?

Regards,

Kat

[imaisha 0]

You do not send in any proof of relationship to NVC. You are only showing the financial details of the petitioner (I-864 + proof) and the biographical information of the beneficiary (DS-230 + passport copy, birth, marriage, police certificates). Have you read the LingChe shortcuts? http://www.visajourney.com/wiki/index.php/...ut#INTRODUCTION

You'll show your proof of relationship at the interview stage. I'm not sure why you wouldn't be able to obtain your phone records since they're your calls and you payed for them, but if they aren't available you need to think of other ways to document the relationship. Do you have emails, boarding passes, photos, etc.?

It's not necessary to put things in a binder. There shouldn't be that much stuff and they're just going to take it out and stick it in their own folders. Simply make a cover letter explaining what you're including, make sure you have the NVC barcoded cover page on top and write your case number on every page. That will be more than sufficient. Then you can mail it however you'd like (though some sort of recorded method is preferred, i.e. USPS priority/express mail, FedEx, UPS).

Edit: I see you do have emails, photos, etc. Great. Keep collecting stuff like that. Any cards? Photos with family members are also great. Any gifts you've sent each other?

Edited July 17, 2009 by imaisha

[meowmeowmeow 1]

Read the shortcuts, read everything else here till my head was about to explode..alright, so basically hubby has to take with him the photos, emails, and plane tickets...i've got all that.

well, here's the deal:

i had a t-mobile account from july 2006 to july 2008. in july 2008 i went overseas to try to get a job in dubai. in that time i called t-mobile in august, said i'm done with you guys, won't be coming back and can you guys please cancel my account? i made sure to pay my final statement to them as well. now things didn't work, i came back in late september, and it turns out that they never cancelled my account and kept charging me.

since then, i've been fighting with them to let me have access to my records...no luck so far. they are pissing me off BIG TIME. claim that i owe them cash, but i know i don't. till now, this has been dragging..that's why i can't get my records. until they determine that i don't owe them squat, i can't get my records...

and i moved twice during this time, so my records and papers were thrown around and i don't know where half my stuff is anymore. that's thanks to my sister. i even lost my last passport thanks to her, and had to get an emergency one when i made my last big trip overseas to mother russia and the ME.

.....i do have a pic or two of all the phone cards i've used to call my hubby, but who knows if they will even believe that?

but just the fact that i went three times overseas to see him won't say anything?

in regards to presents...well, he gave me some silver jewelry and since he's a mythology/history buff, i gave him this compact book of world mythologies, as well as other books....basically that's it.

but how can one prove that these presents are in fact from each other?

another thing: we didn't regularly send snail letters to one another, their postal services SUCK. the one time that i got a letter there, it was via my sis in law who was traveling there and carried it with her.

and we don't email as much, but i do have about 35 pages of emails from between the both of us, but they are kind of stupid emails....gushy emails like "oh baby i miss you so much" and "honey how are you? today i went to the supermarket and bought cheese"....that sort of thing....

i'm even embarrassed to show them those.

LOL

[Chris Me lil D 17]

Ok....so I'm at the point where I need to send in my I-1864 and my packet of proof of our relationship.

What I've got are tons of pics, emails, affidavits, and so on. I'm working on getting my records from T-Mobile, but that may not work because they'are idiots.

Absolutely agree They canceled my plan because I am not in the States and they wouldn't let me freeze my account for more than 4 months, so now after THEY have canceled it, they want me to pay $200 for not keeping my contract with them. IDIOTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

My questions are only two:

1) In the event that I am unable to obtain my phone records, could I write a letter saying that I am not being allowed to retrieve them from T-Mobile and that I can't send them in due to this? Should I then suggest that they contact T-Mobile to get my phone records for the past 2 years?

They told me few months ago that they can not provide a copy of the phone calls between me and my husband but if a lawyer or Immigrations do request them from them, would be no problem. So, yup, do write a letter to USCIS/NVC that if they insist on phone records they could contact T_MOBILE F..Ckers...

2) When you send in the packet, is there a particular way to go about it? I'm extremely organized to begin with and thought I'd make a little binder with everything in plastic folders and color coded and all that. Is that extreme? Or should I just clip together everything according to what it is and send it in a basic manila envelope? What works?

Folder organizer is OK. I've read about other VJ members who did that before. Make sure you also have a cover sheet and check list

Best wishes, Ani

[ABENITEZ 0]

Thats strange. I have Tmobile too, cancelled my account when I went to Pakistan and restarted it when I got back. I can still obtain my bills from 4 years ago and I even had a different number back then. I don't see why they arent giving them to you. I know you do have to pay like $5 for each one though. Maybe you should call and ask to talk to a supervisor or something...good luck

[AbbynSheryl 0]

1) In the event that I am unable to obtain my phone records, could I write a letter saying that I am not being allowed to retrieve them from T-Mobile and that I can't send them in due to this? Should I then suggest that they contact T-Mobile to get my phone records for the past 2 years?

hey u can just log in to the t mobile website and print all the old bills they keep all the phone log on the website

i got mine from at&t and it was easy to print all my two years of phone log.

good luck

abby n sheryl

[Chris Me lil D 17]

1) In the event that I am unable to obtain my phone records, could I write a letter saying that I am not being allowed to retrieve them from T-Mobile and that I can't send them in due to this? Should I then suggest that they contact T-Mobile to get my phone records for the past 2 years?

hey u can just log in to the t mobile website and print all the old bills they keep all the phone log on the website

nope, she can't, T-mobile keeps invoices online only for the past 9 months, done that already, talked to them few times, talked to a supervisor, nothing!!! T-mobile don't care for customers, only about their money. For 3 years service with them, most of their operators have been rude and mean, not friendly and helpful at all

i got mine from at&t and it was easy to print all my two years of phone log.

that's right, AT&T, not T-mobile, my husband has Sprint for the past 2 years and they gave him the option to print all phone call between me and him for the past 2 years with no pay!!! T-mobile screwed him on something and he said he'd never be their customer ever!!!

[meowmeowmeow 1]

Ok....so I'm at the point where I need to send in my I-1864 and my packet of proof of our relationship.

What I've got are tons of pics, emails, affidavits, and so on. I'm working on getting my records from T-Mobile, but that may not work because they'are idiots.

Absolutely agree They canceled my plan because I am not in the States and they wouldn't let me freeze my account for more than 4 months, so now after THEY have canceled it, they want me to pay $200 for not keeping my contract with them. IDIOTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

My questions are only two:

1) In the event that I am unable to obtain my phone records, could I write a letter saying that I am not being allowed to retrieve them from T-Mobile and that I can't send them in due to this? Should I then suggest that they contact T-Mobile to get my phone records for the past 2 years?

They told me few months ago that they can not provide a copy of the phone calls between me and my husband but if a lawyer or Immigrations do request them from them, would be no problem. So, yup, do write a letter to USCIS/NVC that if they insist on phone records they could contact T_MOBILE F..Ckers...

2) When you send in the packet, is there a particular way to go about it? I'm extremely organized to begin with and thought I'd make a little binder with everything in plastic folders and color coded and all that. Is that extreme? Or should I just clip together everything according to what it is and send it in a basic manila envelope? What works?

Folder organizer is OK. I've read about other VJ members who did that before. Make sure you also have a cover sheet and check list

Best wishes, Ani

LOL!!!!!!!!!!! Nice one

[meowmeowmeow 1]

Thats strange. I have Tmobile too, cancelled my account when I went to Pakistan and restarted it when I got back. I can still obtain my bills from 4 years ago and I even had a different number back then. I don't see why they arent giving them to you. I know you do have to pay like $5 for each one though. Maybe you should call and ask to talk to a supervisor or something...good luck

No...I can't....want to see the log I've been keeping? How pathetic it looks?

Kat calls T-Mobile on April 22, 2009 called at 9:55 am. Got Dominic whose rep# is 1048543. Was of NO help but gave me the number of an agency that T-Mobile had forwarded my account to, because apparently I refused to pay my bill to them LOL.

They are called DCI, number is 1-800-771-5361

I called DCI at 10:05 am, spoke to Whitney who said that my letter had been received and that T-Mobile

should be reviewing it now. It was received April 4th. (!!??!?!?!??!!)

I called T-Mobile right after this, got Alex was transferred to Priscilla. got cut off.

Pissed off...

On April 28, 2009 at 4:40 pm Kat called Whitney, she said that T-Mobile received my letter and that it was

going to be reviewed by a higher office, whatever that means, and that it takes a while to do this (and why?!!? I don't know!!!!)

I called T-Mobile at 5:00 pm on the same day requesting action and information from them regarding

my account. Got Mary, whose rep# is 135810605. NOTHING.

Will try back when I come back.

After this, I went to see my husband...didn't follow up. But now, come Monday, I will be on their butts. They had enough time to resolve this. I just want the records from at least 2007 and up...if they can't give me that, then whatever they can. This is so not cool.

[meowmeowmeow 1]

omg i hate tmobile....

hate them!!!!

These punks just told me that i cannot retrieve my phone records because my account is no longer with them. I called the company that it is with and they were very rude to me, told me to go to a t-mobile store and get my records...but i've done that already and they have already refused to do this...now what the $^#$#$ do i do?

can i seriously do as what i had thought earlier and include a letter with my packet to NVC explaining my situation and ask them to just call up T-Mobile to ask for my phone records??? This is bull****

I'm now really worried that this is going to put a kink in my proving my relationship to my husband...

has anyone ever been in this rut?

seriously, t-mobile can go to hell...i'm NEVER using them again.

[meowmeowmeow 1]

ok, now they're telling me that i have to subpoena t-mobile via an attorney ....fok them

[imaisha 0]

ok, now they're telling me that i have to subpoena t-mobile via an attorney ....fok them

Who are "they"? Did T-mobile ask you to sue them?

I'm not sure how worth it all this fuss is. If you have a complete picture of your relationship, the phone records shouldn't be necessary. There are plenty of couples who have no phone records (either because they can't afford calls at all or they use phone cards that are untraceable) and they turn out just fine. Maybe you should focus your efforts on gathering as much of the other kinds of evidence as possible...

[meowmeowmeow 1]

ok, now they're telling me that i have to subpoena t-mobile via an attorney ....fok them

Who are "they"? Did T-mobile ask you to sue them?

I'm not sure how worth it all this fuss is. If you have a complete picture of your relationship, the phone records shouldn't be necessary. There are plenty of couples who have no phone records (either because they can't afford calls at all or they use phone cards that are untraceable) and they turn out just fine. Maybe you should focus your efforts on gathering as much of the other kinds of evidence as possible...

imaisha, sorry i never replied. you are right, i had a freakout here...i just am scared crapless from the govt loooool

hope it will all go well. thanks again

[mrsemcee 1]

on a side note, though i probably hate tmobile now too, and i am from Australia hehe... i WOULD show the gushy silly emails. i cant wait to show all 9,000 of mine if they question my "REAL" love for hubby hehe.

i love how you said "i bought cheese today" hehehe. so cute.

[meowmeowmeow 1]

well...i guess i have no choice eh? i am mortified about the cheese stuff, a lot of the emails are like that seriously...but whatever...will take your advice. thanks