K-3 Obsolete per Ombudsman

[rebeccajo 14]

Well I feel a K3 should be the same time frame as a visitor visa or a work visa. There is not good reason why it should not be.

Yes there is.... The person being petitioned for needs to be verified that he/she is in fact a spouse of a US citizen, because it is in fact a spousal visa... A tourist or work visa does not have this particular eligibility requirement.

A marriage license can verify that. People that want to commit fraud can do it on a work or tourist visa also...

Well you know, he's got a point.

I think what John is saying is in this day and age of technology it seems any type of visa processing should be relatively expeditious.

If it were so, would end a lot of the non-sensical bickering about 'committed married couples' being more 'entitled' to swift service.

[payxibka 10,045]

Well I feel a K3 should be the same time frame as a visitor visa or a work visa. There is not good reason why it should not be.

Yes there is.... The person being petitioned for needs to be verified that he/she is in fact a spouse of a US citizen, because it is in fact a spousal visa... A tourist or work visa does not have this particular eligibility requirement.

A marriage license can verify that. People that want to commit fraud can do it on a work or tourist visa also...

Sure. It is not the visa application process that is slow but the petition process. Once the case file reaches the consulate, the process is quite speedy and would possibly be very close to the other non-immigrant visas. The only difference is the K-3 is issued by the IV unit instead of the NIV unit.

BTW, A marriage license is permission to be married... not proof of a marriage

Edited July 17, 2009 by payxibka

[John & Nan 0]

BTW, A marriage license is permission to be married... not proof of a marriage

a marriage affidavit or what ever you call it. My wife has all our papers in Thailand so I can not look up what they call the paper you get after you are married.

[daboyz 36]

BTW, A marriage license is permission to be married... not proof of a marriage

a marriage affidavit or what ever you call it. My wife has all our papers in Thailand so I can not look up what they call the paper you get after you are married.

In Thailand they don't give you a marriage license, they give you a marriage certificate after you marry.

[John & Nan 0]

BTW, A marriage license is permission to be married... not proof of a marriage

a marriage affidavit or what ever you call it. My wife has all our papers in Thailand so I can not look up what they call the paper you get after you are married.

In Thailand they don't give you a marriage license, they give you a marriage certificate after you marry.

not to change the subject, but I still laugh when I think about getting married in Thailand, You go though a assembly line of people. checking, stamping ,checking and stamping papers, very little is said. At the end they say "ok your are married"

[daboyz 36]

BTW, A marriage license is permission to be married... not proof of a marriage

a marriage affidavit or what ever you call it. My wife has all our papers in Thailand so I can not look up what they call the paper you get after you are married.

In Thailand they don't give you a marriage license, they give you a marriage certificate after you marry.

not to change the subject, but I still laugh when I think about getting married in Thailand, You go though a assembly line of people. checking, stamping ,checking and stamping papers, very little is said. At the end they say "ok your are married"

They give you that nice red folder.

[John & Nan 0]

BTW, A marriage license is permission to be married... not proof of a marriage

a marriage affidavit or what ever you call it. My wife has all our papers in Thailand so I can not look up what they call the paper you get after you are married.

In Thailand they don't give you a marriage license, they give you a marriage certificate after you marry.

not to change the subject, but I still laugh when I think about getting married in Thailand, You go though a assembly line of people. checking, stamping ,checking and stamping papers, very little is said. At the end they say "ok your are married"

They give you that nice red folder.

No you had to BUY it. like you going to say no to your bride when they ask hahaha

[Malrothien 6]

One thing that I think is ridiculous between the K3/CR-1 is that they're processing at the same time now. However, if you go K3, you have to again basically prove your relationship via AOS.

[payxibka 10,045]

One thing that I think is ridiculous between the K3/CR-1 is that they're processing at the same time now. However, if you go K3, you have to again basically prove your relationship via AOS.

and thus the point of this post... the K-3 is obsolete and is not much of a viable option anymore. In 2000 and for a few years it was... but now things have changed

Edited July 17, 2009 by payxibka

[pushbrk 12,881]

One thing that I think is ridiculous between the K3/CR-1 is that they're processing at the same time now. However, if you go K3, you have to again basically prove your relationship via AOS.

and thus the point of this post... the K-3 is obsolete and is not much of a viable option anymore. In 2000 and for a few years it was... but now things have changed

Precisely.

The K3 cannot be a simmilar process to a visitor visa because USCIS must be involved. (They are not involved in visitor visa issue.) You do not simply prove that you are married. The standard for USCIS petition approval involves verifying that petitioner is a USC, that both were free to marry when they married, (We don't trust other governments to do that for us and for good reason.) that the marriage is legal, that IMBRA has been complied with and that the USC doesn't have an Adam Walsh act related convictions.

The K3 visa is not a visitor visa. It's a non-immigrant visa granted to a person with immigrant intent. Visitor visas require that there be no immigrant intent.

[John & Nan 0]

One thing that I think is ridiculous between the K3/ is that they're processing at the same time now. However, if you go K3, you have to again basically prove your relationship via AOS.

and thus the point of this post... the K-3 is obsolete and is not much of a viable option anymore. In 2000 and for a few years it was... but now things have changed

Precisely.

The K3 cannot be a simmilar process to a visitor visa because USCIS must be involved. (They are not involved in visitor visa issue.) You do not simply prove that you are married. The standard for USCIS petition approval involves verifying that petitioner is a USC, that both were free to marry when they married, (We don't trust other governments to do that for us and for good reason.) that the marriage is legal, that IMBRA has been complied with and that the USC doesn't have an Adam Walsh act related convictions.

The K3 visa is not a visitor visa. It's a non-immigrant visa granted to a person with immigrant intent. Visitor visas require that there be no immigrant intent.

a K3 and a visitors visa are non-immigrant visa, meaning at one point you must leave. If you don't get a CR-1 then you must leave. You still have to do the CR-1 with the USCIS

Hey I just thinking of a better way of doing it. Like it really matters