New Study shows the Climate Models the U.N. used "fundamentally wrong".

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Ah, so it's the blitzkrieg rules of engagement is it Gary? Well, that's me out then.

I will say this, healthy skepticism is a good thing, dogmatic refusal to accept the proponderance of evidence something else again. Have fun with your posting marathon

Hehehe, Listen to yourself MC. There are tons of examples of what I am saying. Yet you still sit there and say there is a proponderence of evidence. Your just swallowing what is fed to you.

real scientists have better tools to search actual journals... they dont use google.

If they can get dissenting views published that is. Trouble is, they can't.

Time will tell, won't it? If the scientists get it right, the engineers slap each other on the back, and a good time is had by all. If the scientists get it wrong, the engineers look at each other in disgust, until someone says, "Well, the scientists got it wrong again, just like we told 'em." High fives all around, and a good time is had by all, minus the scientists.

Mom would've been so proud of me had I actually followed through on that chemical engineering thought... or bioengineering program I flirted with...

It's all right. As a mechanic/technician, I get to blame the engineers all the time. I once had a talk with a RV Manufacturer sales rep. He asked what I thought of the new line. I told him, same old, same old, but the engineering really seems to suck lately. He replied, "Well, that's probably because we fired all our engineers last year. We don't need them anymore."

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Ah, so it's the blitzkrieg rules of engagement is it Gary? Well, that's me out then.

I will say this, healthy skepticism is a good thing, dogmatic refusal to accept the proponderance of evidence something else again. Have fun with your posting marathon

Hehehe, Listen to yourself MC. There are tons of examples of what I am saying. Yet you still sit there and say there is a proponderence of evidence. Your just swallowing what is fed to you.

real scientists have better tools to search actual journals... they dont use google.

If they can get dissenting views published that is. Trouble is, they can't.

Time will tell, won't it? If the scientists get it right, the engineers slap each other on the back, and a good time is had by all. If the scientists get it wrong, the engineers look at each other in disgust, until someone says, "Well, the scientists got it wrong again, just like we told 'em." High fives all around, and a good time is had by all, minus the scientists.

Mom would've been so proud of me had I actually followed through on that chemical engineering thought... or bioengineering program I flirted with...

It's all right. As a mechanic/technician, I get to blame the engineers all the time. I once had a talk with a RV Manufacturer sales rep. He asked what I thought of the new line. I told him, same old, same old, but the engineering really seems to suck lately. He replied, "Well, that's probably because we fired all our engineers last year. We don't need them anymore."

Can I call you William D-Fens Foster??

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Gary, one question. Do you believe Barack Obama is a US citizen by birth? Just curious.

Typical. The tin foil hat accusations now come out. Just what I expected.

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[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

Ah, so it's the blitzkrieg rules of engagement is it Gary? Well, that's me out then.

I will say this, healthy skepticism is a good thing, dogmatic refusal to accept the proponderance of evidence something else again. Have fun with your posting marathon

Hehehe, Listen to yourself MC. There are tons of examples of what I am saying. Yet you still sit there and say there is a proponderence of evidence. Your just swallowing what is fed to you.

real scientists have better tools to search actual journals... they dont use google.

If they can get dissenting views published that is. Trouble is, they can't.

Time will tell, won't it? If the scientists get it right, the engineers slap each other on the back, and a good time is had by all. If the scientists get it wrong, the engineers look at each other in disgust, until someone says, "Well, the scientists got it wrong again, just like we told 'em." High fives all around, and a good time is had by all, minus the scientists.

Mom would've been so proud of me had I actually followed through on that chemical engineering thought... or bioengineering program I flirted with...

It's all right. As a mechanic/technician, I get to blame the engineers all the time. I once had a talk with a RV Manufacturer sales rep. He asked what I thought of the new line. I told him, same old, same old, but the engineering really seems to suck lately. He replied, "Well, that's probably because we fired all our engineers last year. We don't need them anymore."

Can I call you William D-Fens Foster??

William Adlebert Foster (February 17, 1917–May 2, 1945) was a United States Marine who received the Medal of Honor for his "conspicuous gallantry and ...

William Foster (February 25, 1881 – September 1, 1961) was a radical American labor organizer and Marxist politician, whose career included a lengthy stint ...

Either one of these two guys?

Aha! Saw that movie, and can relate!

Michael Douglas ... William 'D-Fens' Foster ... the everyday world,' Joel Schumacher's `Falling Down' tells the tragic tale of William Foster aka D-FENS, ...

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Ah, so it's the blitzkrieg rules of engagement is it Gary? Well, that's me out then.

I will say this, healthy skepticism is a good thing, dogmatic refusal to accept the proponderance of evidence something else again. Have fun with your posting marathon

Hehehe, Listen to yourself MC. There are tons of examples of what I am saying. Yet you still sit there and say there is a proponderence of evidence. Your just swallowing what is fed to you.

real scientists have better tools to search actual journals... they dont use google.

If they can get dissenting views published that is. Trouble is, they can't.

Time will tell, won't it? If the scientists get it right, the engineers slap each other on the back, and a good time is had by all. If the scientists get it wrong, the engineers look at each other in disgust, until someone says, "Well, the scientists got it wrong again, just like we told 'em." High fives all around, and a good time is had by all, minus the scientists.

Mom would've been so proud of me had I actually followed through on that chemical engineering thought... or bioengineering program I flirted with...

It's all right. As a mechanic/technician, I get to blame the engineers all the time. I once had a talk with a RV Manufacturer sales rep. He asked what I thought of the new line. I told him, same old, same old, but the engineering really seems to suck lately. He replied, "Well, that's probably because we fired all our engineers last year. We don't need them anymore."

Can I call you William D-Fens Foster??

William Adlebert Foster (February 17, 1917–May 2, 1945) was a United States Marine who received the Medal of Honor for his "conspicuous gallantry and ...

William Foster (February 25, 1881 – September 1, 1961) was a radical American labor organizer and Marxist politician, whose career included a lengthy stint ...

Either one of these two guys?

Aha! Saw that movie, and can relate!

Michael Douglas ... William 'D-Fens' Foster ... the everyday world,' Joel Schumacher's `Falling Down' tells the tragic tale of William Foster aka D-FENS, ...

Hopefully not. We don't want to lose you from OT any time soon...

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Besides... 6 pages into the thread an why hasn't anyone but me called out that the OP hasn't got a clue?

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Besides... 6 pages into the thread an why hasn't anyone but me called out that the OP hasn't got a clue?

You're the only scientist here. We non-scientist illiterates gotta stick together.

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Besides... 6 pages into the thread an why hasn't anyone but me called out that the OP hasn't got a clue?

You're the only scientist here. We non-scientist illiterates gotta stick together.

Not an excuse... the article in question clearly contradicts the bait. Maybe that's it.

Besides... tmma and novotul are scientists too.

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Besides... 6 pages into the thread an why hasn't anyone but me called out that the OP hasn't got a clue?

You're the only scientist here. We non-scientist illiterates gotta stick together.

As an old bartender once told me, "Son, don't let yer facts get in the way of a good story."

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Besides... 6 pages into the thread an why hasn't anyone but me called out that the OP hasn't got a clue?

You're the only scientist here. We non-scientist illiterates gotta stick together.

As an old bartender once told me, "Son, don't let yer facts get in the way of a good story."

It is saddening.

Pike is right. This PR and politics hoopla is mainly a US problem. And as a scientist, I tend to think that it arises out of actual scientific illiteracy to some degree. Perhaps illiteracy is too strong a word to use...

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Gary, one question. Do you believe Barack Obama is a US citizen by birth? Just curious.

Typical. The tin foil hat accusations now come out. Just what I expected.

It's a perfectly valid question. I notice you didn't answer. As I said before, you dismiss everything that is to be found on reputable websites and latch onto things that can only be found on spurious ones. It would be quite different if for example you produced a reputable scientific community procraimling your skepticism, but you can not, and I simply do not buy that worldwide, every scientist has been silenced by Al Gore.

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This PR and politics hoopla is mainly a US problem. And as a scientist, I tend to think that it arises out of actual scientific illiteracy to some degree. Perhaps illiteracy is too strong a word to use...

In America, we pride ourselves on being stupid. We look down on those smarter than us. It's a very American phenomenon.

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Gary, one question. Do you believe Barack Obama is a US citizen by birth? Just curious.

Typical. The tin foil hat accusations now come out. Just what I expected.

It's a perfectly valid question. I notice you didn't answer. As I said before, you dismiss everything that is to be found on reputable websites and latch onto things that can only be found on spurious ones. It would be quite different if for example you produced a reputable scientific community procraimling your skepticism, but you can not, and I simply do not buy that worldwide, every scientist has been silenced by Al Gore.

OH BUT HE HAS DONE EXACTLY THAT. SH!T HERE HE COMES!!!!! OH NOOOOO!!!!

This PR and politics hoopla is mainly a US problem. And as a scientist, I tend to think that it arises out of actual scientific illiteracy to some degree. Perhaps illiteracy is too strong a word to use...

In America, we pride ourselves on being stupid. We look down on those smarter than us. It's a very American phenomenon.

Why do you hate stupid people?

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Besides... 6 pages into the thread an why hasn't anyone but me called out that the OP hasn't got a clue?

You're the only scientist here. We non-scientist illiterates gotta stick together.

As an old bartender once told me, "Son, don't let yer facts get in the way of a good story."

It is saddening.

Pike is right. This PR and politics hoopla is mainly a US problem. And as a scientist, I tend to think that it arises out of actual scientific illiteracy to some degree. Perhaps illiteracy is too strong a word to use...

A lot of it is information overload, and some of it is that people really didn't pay attention in school. Either way, most people worry about immediate concerns. There are lots of time bombs out there that can disrupt at best, and destroy at worst, the common routine. It's hard to focus on any one problem, when there is so much to be concerned about. So, most folks just stop paying attention.