Hate Groups Are Infiltrating the Military, Group Asserts

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"large numbers of neo-Nazis and skinhead extremists" to infiltrate the military, according to a watchdog organization.

Large numbers? Are there even large number to begin with?

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it's a well known fact that you dislike the military and have done your utmost to paint the military as a bunch of knuckle dragging cretins. you also had your previous statement to the effect of the military being stupid handed back to you with several sources citing that in fact was a false statement on your part. now i don't know what issue you have with the military in general, but do try to get counseling for it.

A well known fact? well known by whom? I have simply given my opinion of the military in this thread and another. No statements were handed back to me. I did not make any statements that could be proven to be "true" or proven to be "false".

I would counter what you say by saying that it is equally "well known" that you are very pro army. If anybody needs counselling i would suggest it was you.

A this 2 page stage i would point out that nobody has actually offered anything to suggest the job would not appeal to small minded violent people. It is a job that involves guna, bombs and tanks to name but a few. What is not to love? I saw some army adverts on t.v. whilst in America recently. Here in England the army is sold as more of a diplomatic role. Like world peace keeper. Of course then you see recruits beating each other up for fun on the news and then beating prisoners another day and you see the blood dripping from babies screaming heads on t.v. and so on. America however says be the best or something(you obviously believe you are superior too). The adverts looke like GI Joe/Action Man toy adverts. I just keep wondering if that terrain behind them is the dirt i used to play with my toy soldiers in wishing i had a bigger army to take the hill when i was a small boy.

Yes i used to play "war" and then i grew up.

next.

it's well known by anyone who's reviewed your posts. do i really need to repost them so you can look foolish once again? and yes, your statements were proven to be false - the one i'm particularly reminded of is the one about the iq of those in the military.

as far as me being pro army, make that pro military and you would be right. and i need counseling for wanting a strong america? wasn't it ronald reagan who said he never knew of a time america was attacked because it was too strong? and because i desire that, so america is not attacked, something is wrong with me? roflmao!

you seem to have it stuck in your head that the military lures small minded people. why i really don't know. if you'd study the organizational structure of the military, you'd find that a large percentage of those in the military are not the ones actually shooting. it's called combat support/combat service support. oh yeah, those are the people who handle the supplies, fill out the forms, fix the vehicles, and so on. hardly a place for someone who, as you have tried to say, are small minded violent people. the only small mind around here obviously is yours, as you fail to take the entire military stucture as a whole into account. so you used to play army when you were a kid, why did you switch to barbie dolls?

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"America however says be the best or something(you obviously believe you are superior too)." you know, with that kind of attitude, why don't you just stay where you are?

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I am more worried by the U.S. government invasion than i am worried about the Aryan invasion. The Aryan nation in fact is in many ways somehting that came after to a degree, by that i mean i believe it`s popularity. I am sure the recent wars of aggression and general anti middle eastern attitude in media and then society has caused more people to join the Aryan nation and the army. They do need more people to join the army so i really don`t think they are fussed who joins. I am just shocked there has been no draft yet.

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I am more worried by the U.S. government invasion than i am worried about the Aryan invasion. The Aryan nation in fact is in many ways somehting that came after to a degree, by that i mean i believe it`s popularity. I am sure the recent wars of aggression and general anti middle eastern attitude in media and then society has caused more people to join the Aryan nation and the army. They do need more people to join the army so i really don`t think they are fussed who joins. I am just shocked there has been no draft yet.

the only ones who have put the draft to a vote were...the democrats.

if you think more people are joining the aryan nation, prove it. otherwise it's just trumpeting on your part and the sky is falling.

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"large numbers of neo-Nazis and skinhead extremists" to infiltrate the military, according to a watchdog organization.

Large numbers? Are there even large number to begin with?

Here's more from SPLCenter:

July 7, 2006 -- Before the U.S. military made Matt Buschbacher a Navy SEAL, he made himself a soldier of the Fourth Reich.

Before Forrest Fogarty attended Military Police counter-insurgency training school, he attended Nazi skinhead festivals as lead singer for the hate rock band Attack.

And before Army engineer Jon Fain joined the invasion of Iraq to fight the War on Terror, the neo-Nazi National Alliance member fantasized about fighting a war on Jews.

"Ever since my youth -- when I watched WWII footage and saw how well-disciplined and sharply dressed the German forces were -- I have wanted to be a soldier," Fain said in a Winter 2004 interview with the National Alliance magazine Resistance. "Joining the American military was as close as I could get."

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American soldiers are supposed to be defenders of democracy. Neo-Nazis represent the opposite of these ideals. They dream of race war and revolution, and their motivations for enlisting are often quite different than serving their country.

"Join only for the training, and to better defend yourself, our people, and our culture," Fain said. "We must have people to open doors from the inside when the time comes."

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"Join only for the training, and to better defend yourself, our people, and our culture," Fain said. "We must have people to open doors from the inside when the time comes."

Exact same reason the Latin Kings and the Three Disciples join.

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"Join only for the training, and to better defend yourself, our people, and our culture," Fain said. "We must have people to open doors from the inside when the time comes."

Exact same reason the Latin Kings and the Three Disciples join.

The issue here is making sure the military can filter these individuals out from recruitment. The military adopted a zero tolerance policy, so they will discharge someone who they believe to be a racist. The problem appears to have been exacerbated because of the shortage of new recruits.

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I'm just shocked that they can pass the armed forces exam and have high-school diplomas. I thought those would be a pretty high hurdles for white supremacists. The army also checks for extremist or racist tattoos. Racists do tend to sport them and they're hard to hide during the physical.

It's still awful to think that they're in uniform, but it's awful to think that they're in America.

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Charles, don't bother. Yet another person who's on the wrong side.

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it's well known by anyone who's reviewed your posts. do i really need to repost them so you can look foolish once again? and yes, your statements were proven to be false - the one i'm particularly reminded of is the one about the iq of those in the military.

I`d love to see this.

as far as me being pro army, make that pro military and you would be right. and i need counseling for wanting a strong america? wasn't it ronald reagan who said he never knew of a time america was attacked because it was too strong? and because i desire that, so america is not attacked, something is wrong with me? roflmao!

A strong America is a vague statement. America does the attacking so maybe that would make America safe if it were not for those men and women who are sent out to kill around the globe. Naturally you are going to lose large numbers even if you have the biggest weapons. Again i should state that by America i refer to the state. Those rich men who take your taxes and burn them in order to kill people all over the world.

you seem to have it stuck in your head that the military lures small minded people. why i really don't know. if you'd study the organizational structure of the military, you'd find that a large percentage of those in the military are not the ones actually shooting. it's called combat support/combat service support. oh yeah, those are the people who handle the supplies, fill out the forms, fix the vehicles, and so on. hardly a place for someone who, as you have tried to say, are small minded violent people.

How exactly would they know that upon signing up? The fact that they don`t walk around killing all day is not an issue. The statement i made was that they are "attracted" by the job(as they see it). Trying to paint the army like a big scout camp is just silly.

the only small mind around here obviously is yours, as you fail to take the entire military stucture as a whole into account. so you used to play army when you were a kid, why did you switch to barbie dolls?

Again i didn`t even do that. I did not speak of what the military was. the same problem you had in the other thread has cropped up again. You clearly do not have the intellect to actually read what i say and respond to that. You just sense somebody is not one of your kind so you get all defensive. Then you try and say i am somehow not a man because i am against killing babies and against torturing anybody. If i am playing with Barbie then i am Action Man getting it on and you are action man melting barbie over a naked flame.

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"America however says be the best or something(you obviously believe you are superior too)." you know, with that kind of attitude, why don't you just stay where you are?

Well firstly i was talking about the American army adverts not the country or it`s people, that should be clear if you can read. I am sure you can read better than your replies make it seem.

So in summary you think i should stay in England away from my wife just because American Army adverts sell the army? How odd. For the record i dislike the English army too. So where can i live in your view?

Sadly for you i love America and have as much right to live there as you do. The Earth does not belong to you. You belong to the earth.

the only ones who have put the draft to a vote were...the democrats.

if you think more people are joining the aryan nation, prove it. otherwise it's just trumpeting on your part and the sky is falling.

I am not a democrat dumb ###. Why would i need to prove an opinion? How does one go about proving an opinion? It is just common sense.

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Charles, don't bother. Yet another person who's on the wrong side.

They will expel you from the synagogues; in fact, the hour is coming when everyone who kills you will think he is offering worship to God. - John 16:2

How ironic that it was those who thought they were the most righteous who killed Jesus. Just some food for thought.

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Charles, don't bother. Yet another person who's on the wrong side.

wrong side of what?

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I`d love to see this.

coming right up

It is hard to get actual numbers. A lot of people in the army are there because they are of a certain intellect or a certain violent disposition or perhaps they are turned into viiolent people. I am not suggesting that they are all dumb violent people but there is an element of that. There was at least one soldier i recall who refused to fight. Maybe there are more. Getting a figure on that is tough.

need the link too?

Edited July 7, 2006 by charlesandnessa

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need the link too?

I see you still can`t use quote tags for ######. I even explained it to you. How dumb are you?

Oh one more thing. You said you would show what i said and how it was proven wrong. I know what i said dumb #######.

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