overseas assets and if allowed on Form I-134?

[sunnysayan 0]

Can someone define overseas assets and if allowed on Form I-134?

My husband and I own 3 houses, 2 are rental properties, and land overseas and an expensive truck. Although they have not be reported on our US taxes- we do pay local taxes to both countries that they are in.

one is held in my name / wife is sponsor

Two in my husbands name / beneficiary

If so, I assume we would need to translate all the titles / deeds. We prefer not to sell the property as it provides additional income.

Thanks.

Edited July 15, 2009 by sunnysayan

[sunnysayan 0]

Sorry i meant-- Affidavit of Support (Form I-864) im a newbie and overwelmed!

[Anh map 2,098]

If you are doing the DCF (you posted in the DCF forum) you would be filing an I-864 affidavit of support, not the I-134. The I-864 instructions do not speak to where the assets are located.

Check page 8 of the I-864 instructions for the asset guidelines.

Here is a general statement regarding assets from the I-864 instructions (page 3):

Assets may supplement income if the consular or immigration officer is convinced that the monetary value of the asset could reasonably be made available to support the sponsored immigrant and converted to cash within one year without undue harm to the sponsor or his or her family members. You may not include an automobile unless you show that you own at least one working automobile that you have not included.

[sunnysayan 0]

Yes, DCF Yes, I-864 Thanks-

Our total household income does meet the requirement, it will go away---coz its overseas income--- so we need these assets.

Can rental income be counted as income? As it wont go away?

It might be worth while to add these properties to next years U.S. taxes as well?

[Der Bücherwurm 1]

Do mention all your assets, their estimated value and what you got for them if you decided to sell them, include the rental income if it won't stop. And do remember to take all documents that aren't in English and have them translated. You aren't allowed to do this yourself. You would have to take them to a certified translator and they would have to stamp the documents with proof that they are certified to translate. You might also need to have them notarized.

[Ning 619]

Do mention all your assets, their estimated value and what you got for them if you decided to sell them, include the rental income if it won't stop. And do remember to take all documents that aren't in English and have them translated. You aren't allowed to do this yourself. You would have to take them to a certified translator and they would have to stamp the documents with proof that they are certified to translate. You might also need to have them notarized.

You can do the translation yourself. The stamp isnt required. It can look better if they are done by others but it can be anyone you feel is competent.

You do not need to notarize the documents. A notary certifies that signature on the document not the content .

[Der Bücherwurm 1]

Are you sure? Maybe it is different for Thailand. For Turkey they want you to take official documents like marriage certificates, etc. to a certified translator that can prove they are certified to translate. They don't want you to do it yourself here. Strange that they allow it in Thailand. I wonder why..

[Anh map 2,098]

The valuation has to be done by a licensed appraiser.

[Ning 619]

Are you sure? Maybe it is different for Thailand. For Turkey they want you to take official documents like marriage certificates, etc. to a certified translator that can prove they are certified to translate. They don't want you to do it yourself here. Strange that they allow it in Thailand. I wonder why..

This is what I found that USCIS policy dictates & is followed in Thailand. You can see where the idea of a certification can get misunderstood.

Per the USCIS, documents not in English must be translated. The policy states as follows:

"All documents that are in a language other than English must be submitted with a translation. The person translating the document must certify that the translation is complete and accurate and that he/she is competent to translate from the foreign language into English."

All translations must include a statement similar to the following:

Certification by Translator:

I typed name , certify that I am fluent (conversant) in the English and

languages, and that the above/attached document is an accurate translation of the

document attached entitled .

Signature

Date Typed Name

Address

No idea why Turkey doesnt follow the policy of USCIS but some Embassies use different criteria in different areas.

[sunnysayan 0]

Thanks Ning and all.

Any ideas about finding a licensed appraiser in Thailand? The Land office is for our land, but we have some property that is seperate from the Land. How can this be handled?

Ning I checked out your timeline: Did you have a lawyer look over your docs?

[Der Bücherwurm 1]

No idea why Turkey doesnt follow the policy of USCIS but some Embassies use different criteria in different areas.

Countries do things differently so USCIS sometimes has to tweak things based on the local laws and culture. So what applies for one embassy doesn't always apply to another. So it is always better to get advice from someone going through the same embassy as yourself. I was told on here not to send in the I-864 yet but then I saw on the Ankara website that they want all the forms at once. So I have to send in the I-130, G-325, DS-230, I-864/a and all supporting evidence at once and wait out the AP until we are told it was approved and an interview is scheduled. Then before the interview my husband will get his medical test and both of us will be required to attend the interview.

They probably ask for proof the translator is certified to translate here to be supplied along with the translation because in Turkey Translator's take a test to be certified in order to work. And most people have to supply a Police certificate but Iranian applicants and some others don't.

[Ning 619]

Thanks Ning and all.

Any ideas about finding a licensed appraiser in Thailand? The Land office is for our land, but we have some property that is seperate from the Land. How can this be handled?

Ning I checked out your timeline: Did you have a lawyer look over your docs?

I would check with a real estate office in your area to find an appraiser. When we submitted our land as assets we did not use an appraiser; they did not question the value we used which was the purchase price. That may have been because we were not using only the land to meet the criteria so it wasnt important. I think the appraisal advice is sound in your case.

We did not use a lawyer.