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TBoneTX Grand Master

TBoneTX   45,329

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The voting is anonymous so how could it be clique-ish?
People would band together on the side and discuss how to vote on certain topics and certain posters.
We're all adults here...
...some with lobotomies, sadly...

The issue really boils down to what voters would be voting for (or on). I would vote for (or against) the content of a post but might also be strongly influenced by its grammar and presentation. Others would vote for humor or the throwing-in of a favored Internet or foreign-language phrase. Still others would vote for posts by windbags who are all over the site and who thus appear knowledgeable. Accordingly, ratings of posts would be meaningless. Also, what about posts that consist of the ENTIRE preceding thread and a new addition of only a "thumbs up" icon or a "me, too"? How are we supposed to rate THOSE?

I would consider it more worthwhile to "pin," or make into FAQs, subjects that occur over and over and OVER (financial support, what to put under "length of duration of trip" on the I-131 application, and so forth). When I last looked, a lot of the currently pinned threads contained a lot of now-irrelevant garbage ("can we pin this, Captain, please?"); could these all be cleaned up and only the most ACCURATE, WELL-STATED posts be left in? And a Pitcairn Island subforum, si man?

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06-04-2007 = TSC stamps postal return-receipt for I-129f.

06-11-2007 = NOA1 date (unknown to me).

07-20-2007 = Phoned Immigration Officer; got WAC#; where's NOA1?

09-25-2007 = Touch (first-ever).

09-28-2007 = NOA1, 23 days after their 45-day promise to send it (grrrr).

10-20 & 11-14-2007 = Phoned ImmOffs; "still pending."

12-11-2007 = 180 days; file is "between workstations, may be early Jan."; touches 12/11 & 12/12.

12-18-2007 = Call; file is with Division 9 ofcr. (bckgrnd check); e-prompt to shake it; touch.

12-19-2007 = NOA2 by e-mail & web, dated 12-18-07 (187 days; 201 per VJ); in mail 12/24/07.

01-09-2008 = File from USCIS to NVC, 1-4-08; NVC creates file, 1/15/08; to consulate 1/16/08.

01-23-2008 = Consulate gets file; outdated Packet 4 mailed to fiancee 1/27/08; rec'd 3/3/08.

04-29-2008 = Fiancee's 4-min. consular interview, 8:30 a.m.; much evidence brought but not allowed to be presented (consul: "More proof! Second interview! Bring your fiance!").

05-05-2008 = Infuriating $12 call to non-English-speaking consulate appointment-setter.

05-06-2008 = Better $12 call to English-speaker; "joint" interview date 6/30/08 (my selection).

06-30-2008 = Stokes Interrogations w/Ecuadorian (not USC); "wait 2 weeks; we'll mail her."

07-2008 = Daily calls to DOS: "currently processing"; 8/05 = Phoned consulate, got Section Chief; wrote him.

08-07-08 = E-mail from consulate, promising to issue visa "as soon as we get her passport" (on 8/12, per DHL).

08-27-08 = Phoned consulate (they "couldn't find" our file); visa DHL'd 8/28; in hand 9/1; through POE on 10/9 with NO hassles(!).

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People would band together on the side and discuss how to vote on certain topics and certain posters.

Often times it doesn't even have to be discussed, just implied. If a poster finds themselves unpopular (for whatever reason, good or bad) amongst a certain group, there will be active head hunts to mod her down, no matter what she says. So now what...are we going to impose the duty of policing user-moderation on the mods? Do you get a hand-slap if you mod a poster down too many times? What if that user really is posting useless stuff? What if *everyone* is unfairly modding a single person down, do you issue temp bans to everyone who negatively modded that person?

There's just no way to reasonably police this mechanism and still be fair. Crowds are stupid. Anonymous crowds are cruel and stupid.

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TBoneTX Grand Master

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Crowds are stupid. Anonymous crowds are cruel and stupid.
"The tyranny of the majority," si man.

06-04-2007 = TSC stamps postal return-receipt for I-129f.

06-11-2007 = NOA1 date (unknown to me).

07-20-2007 = Phoned Immigration Officer; got WAC#; where's NOA1?

09-25-2007 = Touch (first-ever).

09-28-2007 = NOA1, 23 days after their 45-day promise to send it (grrrr).

10-20 & 11-14-2007 = Phoned ImmOffs; "still pending."

12-11-2007 = 180 days; file is "between workstations, may be early Jan."; touches 12/11 & 12/12.

12-18-2007 = Call; file is with Division 9 ofcr. (bckgrnd check); e-prompt to shake it; touch.

12-19-2007 = NOA2 by e-mail & web, dated 12-18-07 (187 days; 201 per VJ); in mail 12/24/07.

01-09-2008 = File from USCIS to NVC, 1-4-08; NVC creates file, 1/15/08; to consulate 1/16/08.

01-23-2008 = Consulate gets file; outdated Packet 4 mailed to fiancee 1/27/08; rec'd 3/3/08.

04-29-2008 = Fiancee's 4-min. consular interview, 8:30 a.m.; much evidence brought but not allowed to be presented (consul: "More proof! Second interview! Bring your fiance!").

05-05-2008 = Infuriating $12 call to non-English-speaking consulate appointment-setter.

05-06-2008 = Better $12 call to English-speaker; "joint" interview date 6/30/08 (my selection).

06-30-2008 = Stokes Interrogations w/Ecuadorian (not USC); "wait 2 weeks; we'll mail her."

07-2008 = Daily calls to DOS: "currently processing"; 8/05 = Phoned consulate, got Section Chief; wrote him.

08-07-08 = E-mail from consulate, promising to issue visa "as soon as we get her passport" (on 8/12, per DHL).

08-27-08 = Phoned consulate (they "couldn't find" our file); visa DHL'd 8/28; in hand 9/1; through POE on 10/9 with NO hassles(!).

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one...two...tree Grand Master

one...two...tree   2,762

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Oh good heavens...all it would be is a vote on immigration posts. You guys are demonstrating exactly what Captain Ewok wants to avoid in the immigration forums. One person gives advice, good or bad and others get into a big argument over it. With the post voting, there'd be less of inclination to bicker and more inclination to actually post helpful information. People will take or leave advice regardless, but at least those who are trying to sort through overwhelming meandering advice can look at the posts that got the most votes.

It's worth at least trying.

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Oh good heavens...all it would be is a vote on immigration posts. You guys are demonstrating exactly what Captain Ewok wants to avoid in the immigration forums. One person gives advice, good or bad and others get into a big argument over it. With the post voting, there'd be less of inclination to bicker and more inclination to actually post helpful information. People will take or leave advice regardless, but at least those who are trying to sort through overwhelming meandering advice can look at the posts that got the most votes.

It's worth at least trying.

Ultimately it's up to Ewok to decide if it's worth trying, so I won't belabor the point. But I do think that for anyone who is trying to sort through the volumes of advice, the guides are always the best place to start, followed by Search. If they still don't have an answer, they should post their question in the relevant forum. In all cases, they should decide for themselves what information to heed, and what to toss.

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TBoneTX Grand Master

TBoneTX   45,329

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In all cases, they should decide for themselves what information to heed, and what to toss.
What if some posts that I heed make me want to toss my cookies, si man?

06-04-2007 = TSC stamps postal return-receipt for I-129f.

06-11-2007 = NOA1 date (unknown to me).

07-20-2007 = Phoned Immigration Officer; got WAC#; where's NOA1?

09-25-2007 = Touch (first-ever).

09-28-2007 = NOA1, 23 days after their 45-day promise to send it (grrrr).

10-20 & 11-14-2007 = Phoned ImmOffs; "still pending."

12-11-2007 = 180 days; file is "between workstations, may be early Jan."; touches 12/11 & 12/12.

12-18-2007 = Call; file is with Division 9 ofcr. (bckgrnd check); e-prompt to shake it; touch.

12-19-2007 = NOA2 by e-mail & web, dated 12-18-07 (187 days; 201 per VJ); in mail 12/24/07.

01-09-2008 = File from USCIS to NVC, 1-4-08; NVC creates file, 1/15/08; to consulate 1/16/08.

01-23-2008 = Consulate gets file; outdated Packet 4 mailed to fiancee 1/27/08; rec'd 3/3/08.

04-29-2008 = Fiancee's 4-min. consular interview, 8:30 a.m.; much evidence brought but not allowed to be presented (consul: "More proof! Second interview! Bring your fiance!").

05-05-2008 = Infuriating $12 call to non-English-speaking consulate appointment-setter.

05-06-2008 = Better $12 call to English-speaker; "joint" interview date 6/30/08 (my selection).

06-30-2008 = Stokes Interrogations w/Ecuadorian (not USC); "wait 2 weeks; we'll mail her."

07-2008 = Daily calls to DOS: "currently processing"; 8/05 = Phoned consulate, got Section Chief; wrote him.

08-07-08 = E-mail from consulate, promising to issue visa "as soon as we get her passport" (on 8/12, per DHL).

08-27-08 = Phoned consulate (they "couldn't find" our file); visa DHL'd 8/28; in hand 9/1; through POE on 10/9 with NO hassles(!).

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