BORN IN THE USA?

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

It would be nice if any of that were actually substantiated - rather than the same sort of generalised fist-shaking that assumes that any and all politicians are (and can only be) corrupt.

I never bought Obama's campaign platform that he'd somehow change the way politics is done in this country. He's a career politican, no more - no less. I'm only "For" Obama in the sense that he isn't GWB.

[justashooter 430]

So? My father's death announcement was published in the NYT, but he didn't live nor die in NY. It's a good thing none of you Obamacans aren't employed as fact checkers. You'd be fired fast.

She arranged for the ad to be published in a Hawaiian newspaper back in 1961 (even though she was

pregnant in Kenya/Indonesia at the time) because she knew that some day he would be President of

the United States?

it is not uncommon for parents of adult children to take out wedding and birth announcement ads in their local newspaper to inform their friends and acquaintances of events that occur in their children's lives. check any local newspaper and you will see examples. ads that list the address of the couple as in california and are published in a pennsylvania newspaper are a dead giveaway.

there is not much info in the osama ad to judge it by. not even a child or hospital name is listed. just the "family address", which could prolly be verified as his grandmother's home address. phones did exist in kenya in 1961, so it's quite possible that the grandmother was called within hours of the birth and that she placed the ad in the paper.

[SaadBell 0]

Allosimanius Syneca that is where Obama was born and FORTY TWO "The Answer to the Great Question, of Life, the Universe and Everything"

Just waiting to hitch a ride out of this place.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Still with the Osama thing, I see.

And you probably think its really funny, don't you

[SMOKE 1,426]

wow this is still going...

fact - he is the president & that isn't changing for at least 3 1/2 years

[justashooter 430]

it's a widely accepted sarcastic substitute for his middle name.

you will call me a "racist" for using it, but i'm not the one who spent 20 years of sundays in a church listening to a lunatic yell "kill whitey", "it's the white man's fault we all use drugs", and i'm not the one who selected a supreme court justice candidate because "hispanic women are smarter than white men".

who da racist now?

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

it's a widely accepted sarcastic substitute for his middle name.

you will call me a "racist" for using it, but i'm not the one who spent 20 years of sundays in a church listening to a lunatic yell "kill whitey", "it's the white man's fault we all use drugs", and i'm not the one who selected a supreme court justice candidate because "hispanic women are smarter than white men".

who da racist now?

Widely accepted? By who?

Its kinda stupid comparing an American politician of African American descent to a Saudi-born religious fundamentalist guerila leader. But it does go back to that hysteria about Obama's middle name during the campaign. The only reason that such distinctions are made is to accentuate the fact that he doesn't have a European (white) name and isn't of that heritage. So yes, highlighting the guy's "otherness" in that way is most definitely racist - it has nothing to do with (and isn't excused by) whatever you perceive from Obama's attending church services.

Unless you are saying that you aren't responsible for your own words.

So Mr Shooter, YOU "da racist".

Edited July 16, 2009 by Private Pike

[The_Dude 1,142]

it's a widely accepted sarcastic substitute for his middle name.

you will call me a "racist" for using it, but i'm not the one who spent 20 years of sundays in a church listening to a lunatic yell "kill whitey", "it's the white man's fault we all use drugs", and i'm not the one who selected a supreme court justice candidate because "hispanic women are smarter than white men".

who da racist now?

You are still the racist shooter as well as a mongoloid.

[Peikko 1,575]

So then how can you be sure than any person who claims to have been born in Hawaii was actually born there?

One million potential posers - sounds like a much bigger problem than a President born in Kenya?

they would have legitimate long form certificates, which is what people are asking osama to provide, adn what he has spent hundreds of thousands of your tax dollars avoiding doing.

You ignored the bit where officials have confirmed that such a long form birth certificate not only exists, but shows that the short form, the normal certificate that Hawaiin's are issued with, matches perfectly with the details therein? Of course you did because you are the 'Lone Voice of Reason' (It's much better if you say that in your head with a voiceover from the Lone Ranger, just so you know)

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

That's the bizarro-world version of the Lone Ranger where Silver rides the Ranger.

[Krikit 1,165]

There are numerous TOS violations within this thread and we have been very lenient. One more and it's closed.

[tmma 467]

it's a widely accepted sarcastic substitute for his middle name.

you will call me a "racist" for using it, but i'm not the one who spent 20 years of sundays in a church listening to a lunatic yell "kill whitey", "it's the white man's fault we all use drugs", and i'm not the one who selected a supreme court justice candidate because "hispanic women are smarter than white men".

who da racist now?

You are still the racist shooter as well as a mongoloid.

.....and in what way did you mean 'mongoloid'? A person with Downs Syndrome or someone from Mongolia? If it's Mongolia, I believe the correct term is "Mongol" if it's a person with Downs Syndrome then (IMO) your POV is drastically cheapened and moot because you resorted to linking people with birth defects they cannot help to someone with (in your opinion) a racist POV......If it's the latter then shame on you for not finding another more substantiative and relevant (not to mention less juvenile and insulting to so many ) way to express your POV.

Edited July 16, 2009 by tmma

[The_Dude 1,142]

So then how can you be sure than any person who claims to have been born in Hawaii was actually born there?

One million potential posers - sounds like a much bigger problem than a President born in Kenya?

they would have legitimate long form certificates, which is what people are asking osama to provide, adn what he has spent hundreds of thousands of your tax dollars avoiding doing.

You ignored the bit where officials have confirmed that such a long form birth certificate not only exists, but shows that the short form, the normal certificate that Hawaiin's are issued with, matches perfectly with the details therein? Of course you did because you are the 'Lone Voice of Reason' (It's much better if you say that in your head with a voiceover from the Lone Ranger, just so you know)

But you are discounting the lunatic conspiracy factor here cleo. Shooter et al must see THE ORIGINAL COPY of said long form in order to quell their fears. Even then, you I seriously doubt they would end their wild fantasies about how barry stole the election from them.

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No worries, we'll elect Palin in 2012 and the world will be well again. You betcha.

[Peikko 1,575]

No worries, we'll elect Palin in 2012 and the world will be well again. You betcha.

If she's elected, I have documents that prove that in fact she was born in that self same Russia she could see from her bedroom window and I will have her removed from office!