BORN IN THE USA?

[Der Bücherwurm 1]

the only thing more dangerous than an uninformed person is a partially informed person. read the entire thread. the issue has been addressed.

it is a widely accepted fact that O could not gain citizenship rights in 1961 by birth if born abroad. his mother did not meet the residency requirement.

And you are obviously only partially informed, if that. He was born in Kapi'olani Medical Center for Women & Children in Honolulu, Hawaii, United States, to an American mother. Obama's parents met in 1960 at the University of Hawaii at Mānoa, where his father was a foreign student. The couple married on February 2, 1961 and Barack was born later that year. His parents separated when he was two years old and they divorced in 1964. His mother then remarried an Indonesian and Obama lived with them when they moved to Indonesia from the ages of 6-10 before returning to Hawaii to live with his Grandparents. So what is so hard to understand that being born in Hawaii means that he was born in America as Hawaii became a state in 1959? So what if he lived in Indonesia from the ages of 6-10? I've lived abroad for 6 years now but my citizenship hasn't changed. Interestingly, John McCain's citizenship was also questioned because he was born on a military base in the Panama Canal Zone, which is not a US territory.

Edited July 15, 2009 by DieNörglerin

[The_Dude 1,142]

OK folks, time to stop feeding the trolls. The evidence has clearly been laid out that proves it, so we can draw one of two conclussions here.

1) Troll

2) Too stupid to live

[justashooter 430]

the only thing more dangerous than an uninformed person is a partially informed person. read the entire thread. the issue has been addressed.

it is a widely accepted fact that O could not gain citizenship rights in 1961 by birth if born abroad. his mother did not meet the residency requirement.

And you are obviously only partially informed, if that. He was born in Kapi'olani Medical Center for Women & Children in Honolulu, Hawaii, United States, to an American mother. Obama's parents met in 1960 at the University of Hawaii at Mānoa, where his father was a foreign student. The couple married on February 2, 1961 and Barack was born later that year. His parents separated when he was two years old and they divorced in 1964. His mother then remarried an Indonesian and Obama lived with them when they moved to Indonesia from the ages of 6-10 before returning to Hawaii to live with his Grandparents. So what is so hard to understand that being born in Hawaii means that he was born in America as Hawaii became a state in 1959? So what if he lived in Indonesia from the ages of 6-10? I've lived abroad for 6 years now but my citizenship hasn't changed. Interestingly, John McCain's citizenship was also questioned because he was born on a military base in the Panama Canal Zone, which is not a US territory.

you left out the part where she travels to kenya while preggers, and does, or does not, make it home in time to pop on US soil, which is the crux of the principal question. maybe that part doesn't play well? you skipped a bunch of other relavant points, too, but that one just screams for acknowledgement.

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

the only thing more dangerous than an uninformed person is a partially informed person. read the entire thread. the issue has been addressed.

it is a widely accepted fact that O could not gain citizenship rights in 1961 by birth if born abroad. his mother did not meet the residency requirement.

And you are obviously only partially informed, if that. He was born in Kapi'olani Medical Center for Women & Children in Honolulu, Hawaii, United States, to an American mother. Obama's parents met in 1960 at the University of Hawaii at Mānoa, where his father was a foreign student. The couple married on February 2, 1961 and Barack was born later that year. His parents separated when he was two years old and they divorced in 1964. His mother then remarried an Indonesian and Obama lived with them when they moved to Indonesia from the ages of 6-10 before returning to Hawaii to live with his Grandparents. So what is so hard to understand that being born in Hawaii means that he was born in America as Hawaii became a state in 1959? So what if he lived in Indonesia from the ages of 6-10? I've lived abroad for 6 years now but my citizenship hasn't changed. Interestingly, John McCain's citizenship was also questioned because he was born on a military base in the Panama Canal Zone, which is not a US territory.

you left out the part where she travels to kenya while preggers, and does, or does not, make it home in time to pop on US soil, which is the crux of the principal question. maybe that part doesn't play well? you skipped a bunch of other relavant points, too, but that one just screams for acknowledgement.

She did? You have proof of that, yes?

[Peikko 1,575]

This thread makes republicans look really idiotic and incapable of a simple google search. The requirement to be president states that you must be a US citizen born in the US or to American parents abroad. So even if he was born abroad he still qualifies to be president because he was born to an American mother! But I suppose the conspiracy theorist lunatics will start looking for evidence that his mother wasn't American either.

It's like boxing with a midget.

yep, the midget punches you in the nuts every time, and there's nothing you can do about it, because your ineffective blows go into thin air, never really addressing the target issue, or the midget's face...

Roger Moore had the best solution to that - shove the guy into a suitcase and throw him into the sea.

He did have his moments

[one...two...tree 2,762]

the only thing more dangerous than an uninformed person is a partially informed person. read the entire thread. the issue has been addressed.

it is a widely accepted fact that O could not gain citizenship rights in 1961 by birth if born abroad. his mother did not meet the residency requirement.

And you are obviously only partially informed, if that. He was born in Kapi'olani Medical Center for Women & Children in Honolulu, Hawaii, United States, to an American mother. Obama's parents met in 1960 at the University of Hawaii at Mānoa, where his father was a foreign student. The couple married on February 2, 1961 and Barack was born later that year. His parents separated when he was two years old and they divorced in 1964. His mother then remarried an Indonesian and Obama lived with them when they moved to Indonesia from the ages of 6-10 before returning to Hawaii to live with his Grandparents. So what is so hard to understand that being born in Hawaii means that he was born in America as Hawaii became a state in 1959? So what if he lived in Indonesia from the ages of 6-10? I've lived abroad for 6 years now but my citizenship hasn't changed. Interestingly, John McCain's citizenship was also questioned because he was born on a military base in the Panama Canal Zone, which is not a US territory.

you left out the part where she travels to kenya while preggers, and does, or does not, make it home in time to pop on US soil, which is the crux of the principal question. maybe that part doesn't play well? you skipped a bunch of other relavant points, too, but that one just screams for acknowledgement.

Shooter, a child born to US Citizen on foreign soil is a US Citizen, period! What part of THAT don't you get?

What you might not know is the borders for citizenship. Those born within U.S. ports and harbors or within 12 nautical miles of U.S. borders are also American citizens. Even babies born on planes flying over the U.S. or its territories acquire U.S. citizenship. The ship or plane's country of origin makes no difference regarding citizenship.

However, U.S. installations in foreign countries are not considered part of the United States. So, delivering a baby at a U.S. naval base or embassy in a foreign country does not entitle the baby to U.S. citizenship.

Although the "citizenship by birth" rules have been complex, the February 2001 Child Citizenship Act (CCA) simplified the process. Now, a child who is under the age of 18, was born outside the U.S., and has at least one U.S. citizen parent automatically acquires U.S. citizenship upon entry into the country as an immigrant. No further paperwork is necessary. The parent may request a Certificate of Citizenship and U.S. Passport for the child if proof of the baby's American-ness is desired.

http://www.legalzoom.com/legal-articles/bo...ll-citizen.html

[Trompe le Monde 1,107]

Like I say, I'm really impressed with Anne Dunham's foresight to pull off this grand conspiracy when Barack was just a baby/toddler....all the way down to putting birth announcements in both Honolulu papers.....maybe the guy on the grassy knoll knew he would be president one day and told her.....or maybe it was the guy that faked the moon landings

[one...two...tree 2,762]

Like I say, I'm really impressed with Anne Dunham's foresight to pull off this grand conspiracy when Barack was just a baby/toddler....all the way down to putting birth announcements in both Honolulu papers.....maybe the guy on the grassy knoll knew he would be president one day and told her.....or maybe it was the guy that faked the moon landings

He be Kenyan! WE HAVE A KENYAN CITIZEN AS THE US PRESIDENT! God have mercy on us!

[Peikko 1,575]

Ann Durham was quite the girl, for a trampy biotch

Meanwhile, if anyone wants to buy my secret tapes disclosing the real facts of the Obama miracle birth in space, send me a PM. My rates are very reasonable

[HannahP 119]

This thread is lacking in Reagan love.

/because conservs tend to be redundant

//however, NOT like the redundant laryngeal n.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Reagan may be gone but his greased hair is immortal. That thing will probably survive a nuclear blast!

[justashooter 430]

Shooter, a child born to US Citizen on foreign soil is a US Citizen, period! What part of THAT don't you get?

in 1961 that wasn't true. the article you posted indicated that the latest change in law was 2001. there have been 4 changes since 1961, IIRC. what part of that don't you understand?

[mawilson 2,133]

Even Obama's grandmother says he was born in Kenya.

I thought it was Indonesia, what with his Indonesian citizenship and all. Now it's Kenya?

indonesia does not allow dual citizenship. for him to have obtained indonesian, his mother would have had to renounce his American citizenship. Perhaps she did, but did not inform the USCIS. but then, this would involve defrauding the indonesian gov't...

Did he have to renounce his Kenyan citizenship too?

[mawilson 2,133]

Shooter, a child born to US Citizen on foreign soil is a US Citizen, period! What part of THAT don't you get?

That's not exactly true. The laws governing whether or not a child born outside of

the US acquires US citizenship from parents have changed several times. The laws

differ for the following time periods:

• prior to May 24, 1934
• May 25, 1934 to January 12, 1941
• January 13, 1941 to December 23, 1952
• December 24, 1952 to November 13, 1986, and
• November 14, 1986 to present

The law that was in effect on the date of Obama's birth was the Immigration and Nationality Act

of June 27, 1952, 66 Stat. 163, 235, 8 U.S. Code Section 1401 (b) (Section 301 of the Act),

which has the following requirement:

"(7) a person born outside the geographical limits of the United States and its outlying possessions

of parents one of whom is an alien, and the other a citizen of the United States, who prior to the

birth of such person, was physically present in the United States or its outlying possessions for a

period or periods totaling not less than ten years, at least five of which were after attaining the age

of fourteen years.

[Trompe le Monde 1,107]

I'm just wondering at what point in her pregnancy Ann choose to endure the hellish flight from Honolulu to Nairobi? Pretty remarkable when most airlines don't even let pregnant women fly after about 30 weeks.