Why are news agencies hushing up the gay factor in the boys rape?

[Danno 1,228]

The point of the story is the lack of detailed info which would commonly accompany any such story.

If this were a normal relationship the report would certainly include details about a wife or girl friend.

The part that is most remarkable is the virtual lock-step ignoring of these details by the media.

Perhaps someone could recall another such story where a child is abused in the home and no mention of other adults living there and what their relations are.

Exactly. They seem to think gay couple pedding a 5 year old black kid isn't worth reporting. If it is so unusual you'd think the media would highlight it. You can bet if the perps were preachers they'd blast that one out even the religious orientation has nothing to do with the crime.

Homosexuals molesting minors is an anomaly in the gay community. That's why it's not mentioned. It's not indicative of a trend or pattern

Most straight guys aren't molestors either but since they are the vast majority in society of course there will be more of them molesting. There's also fewer gay murderers but for the same reason as above.

You think that a pedophile's sexual orientation is relevant to their behavior? If so, how?

So you think a Gay pedophile is equally looking for little girls?

Lets not be silly here.

[one...two...tree 2,762]

The point of the story is the lack of detailed info which would commonly accompany any such story.

If this were a normal relationship the report would certainly include details about a wife or girl friend.

The part that is most remarkable is the virtual lock-step ignoring of these details by the media.

Perhaps someone could recall another such story where a child is abused in the home and no mention of other adults living there and what their relations are.

Exactly. They seem to think gay couple pedding a 5 year old black kid isn't worth reporting. If it is so unusual you'd think the media would highlight it. You can bet if the perps were preachers they'd blast that one out even the religious orientation has nothing to do with the crime.

Homosexuals molesting minors is an anomaly in the gay community. That's why it's not mentioned. It's not indicative of a trend or pattern

Most straight guys aren't molestors either but since they are the vast majority in society of course there will be more of them molesting. There's also fewer gay murderers but for the same reason as above.

You think that a pedophile's sexual orientation is relevant to their behavior? If so, how?

So you think a Gay pedophile is equally looking for little girls?

Lets not be silly here.

So if that guy had been a heterosexual, he wouldn't have been a pedophile? Help me understand your logic here.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Danno,

Do you think that homosexuality means that a person is attracted to children of the same gender as yourself? And if so, are you then implying that you, a heterosexual, are attracted to young girls? Help me to understand what you are implying.

The point of the story is the lack of detailed info which would commonly accompany any such story.

If this were a normal relationship the report would certainly include details about a wife or girl friend.

The part that is most remarkable is the virtual lock-step ignoring of these details by the media.

Perhaps someone could recall another such story where a child is abused in the home and no mention of other adults living there and what their relations are.

As to your question.

I am not implying anything (in this news story) except, the unorthodox way details are being reported.

I do not think homosexuality= attraction to children.

However one can not ignore that nagging fact that gay men are around 2-5% of the population yet they huge numbers of boys molested (perhaps a third of cases).

Seems we have a fear or willingness in the media to "not go there" that balance on these topics fail to see the light of day.

I imagine the reasoning is that connecting homosexuality with child molestation feeds prejudice. Given that as mentioned earlier - the sexuality of the perpetrator is rarely, if ever mentioned in cases of child abuse, the question surely is why it must be highlighted here.

If we reasonably accept that there are many homosexuals who don't do this sort of thing, just as many heterosexuals don't either - what is the point of underlining it in this story?

The point of the story is the lack of detailed info which would commonly accompany any such story.

If this were a normal relationship the report would certainly include details about a wife or girl friend.

The part that is most remarkable is the virtual lock-step ignoring of these details by the media.

Perhaps someone could recall another such story where a child is abused in the home and no mention of other adults living there and what their relations are.

Exactly. They seem to think gay couple pedding a 5 year old black kid isn't worth reporting. If it is so unusual you'd think the media would highlight it. You can bet if the perps were preachers they'd blast that one out even the religious orientation has nothing to do with the crime.

Homosexuals molesting minors is an anomaly in the gay community. That's why it's not mentioned. It's not indicative of a trend or pattern

Most straight guys aren't molestors either but since they are the vast majority in society of course there will be more of them molesting. There's also fewer gay murderers but for the same reason as above.

You think that a pedophile's sexual orientation is relevant to their behavior? If so, how?

So you think a Gay pedophile is equally looking for little girls?

Lets not be silly here.

So if that guy had been a heterosexual, he wouldn't have been a pedophile? Help me understand your logic here.

I think someone's having a feedback loop over that one.

what a goof.

[Danno 1,228]

Danno,

Do you think that homosexuality means that a person is attracted to children of the same gender as yourself? And if so, are you then implying that you, a heterosexual, are attracted to young girls? Help me to understand what you are implying.

The point of the story is the lack of detailed info which would commonly accompany any such story.

If this were a normal relationship the report would certainly include details about a wife or girl friend.

The part that is most remarkable is the virtual lock-step ignoring of these details by the media.

Perhaps someone could recall another such story where a child is abused in the home and no mention of other adults living there and what their relations are.

As to your question.

I am not implying anything (in this news story) except, the unorthodox way details are being reported.

I do not think homosexuality= attraction to children.

However one can not ignore that nagging fact that gay men are around 2-5% of the population yet they huge numbers of boys molested (perhaps a third of cases).

Seems we have a fear or willingness in the media to "not go there" that balance on these topics fail to see the light of day.

I think you'd have to be specific then about what news agencies didn't mention that the perpetrator was in a gay relationship with another man, look over exactly what information was given, etc. This is a developing story. I'm not sure where you got this piece, but if they are trying to establish some kind of pattern of omission by the news media, they're jumping the gun.

As for your stats on homosexual pedophiles - you said 'perhaps a third of child molestation cases.' By that logic, you are suggesting that heterosexual people (2/3 of all cases) have a real issue with pedophilia.

Steve are you missing the math here my friend?

2-5% of the population molesting 33% of the victims.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

So what exactly would be the point of highlighting the "gayness" of the perpetrator?

That prejudice against gays is justifiable?

[one...two...tree 2,762]

Steve are you missing the math here my friend?

2-5% of the population molesting 33% of the victims.

I'd say you'd make a poor statistician.

As I mentioned before, most pedaphiles were victims of sexual abuse as children themselves and many of them have homosexual relationships in adulthood. Your cause and effect is out of alignment. Sexual orientation has no bearing on a pedophile's behavior. Think about it, Danno.... if the guy had been straight then his victim would have been a little girl? Does that make you any happier about it?

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Steve are you missing the math here my friend?

2-5% of the population molesting 33% of the victims.

I'd say you'd make a poor statistician.

As I mentioned before, most pedaphiles were victims of sexual abuse as children themselves and many of them have homosexual relationships in adulthood. Your cause and effect is out of alignment. Sexual orientation has no bearing on a pedophile's behavior. Think about it, Danno.... if the guy had been straight then his victim would have been a little girl? Does that make you any happier about it?

Is the sex of the victim really much of an issue?

I would have thought that the fundamental thing with pedophilia is that the perps are fixated on children. Is a predator going to show up at a playground intent on snatching and abusing a kid, and then decide to call it off because there are only little girls in the playground when he wanted a boy?

Seems strange to me...

[Danno 1,228]

So what exactly would be the point of highlighting the "gayness" of the perpetrator?

That prejudice against gays is justifiable?

Okay Pike, I will go slow.. just for you.

AS this crime happened in the home these two men shared their relationship should be a detail of interests.

Could you imagine this man being married and the wife not being part of the story?

[Dr. A ♥ O 203]

^ Yes it happens all the time!

[one...two...tree 2,762]

Steve are you missing the math here my friend?

2-5% of the population molesting 33% of the victims.

I'd say you'd make a poor statistician.

As I mentioned before, most pedaphiles were victims of sexual abuse as children themselves and many of them have homosexual relationships in adulthood. Your cause and effect is out of alignment. Sexual orientation has no bearing on a pedophile's behavior. Think about it, Danno.... if the guy had been straight then his victim would have been a little girl? Does that make you any happier about it?

Is the sex of the victim really much of an issue?

I would have thought that the fundamental thing with pedophilia is that the perps are fixated on children. Is a predator going to show up at a playground intent on snatching and abusing a kid, and then decide to call it off because there are only little girls in the playground when he wanted a boy?

Seems strange to me...

That's what I read as well. Just like with rapists, it's more of a power trip than anything. It's why pedophiles will seek careers where they have the trust of children (Scout Masters, teachers, clergy).

I wonder if Danno is going to suggest that the priesthood, becoming a teacher or a Scout Master turns otherwise normal people into depraved pedophiles?

Edited July 4, 2009 by Col. 'Bat' Guano

[SuperDuper! 230]

So what exactly would be the point of highlighting the "gayness" of the perpetrator?

That prejudice against gays is justifiable?

Okay Pike, I will go slow.. just for you.

Are you implying that Pike has gone Full Retard??

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

So what exactly would be the point of highlighting the "gayness" of the perpetrator?

That prejudice against gays is justifiable?

Okay Pike, I will go slow.. just for you.

AS this crime happened in the home these two men shared their relationship should be a detail of interests.

Could you imagine this man being married and the wife not being part of the story?

I can imagine it - because stories about child predators are never reported that way.

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

However one can not ignore that nagging fact that gay men are around 2-5% of the population yet they huge numbers of boys molested (perhaps a third of cases).

That's not true. It can't be. We all know that catholic priests living the celibate life have the monopoly on child molestation cases.

On a more serious note, can you actually back-up the data you offered there?

[one...two...tree 2,762]

So what exactly would be the point of highlighting the "gayness" of the perpetrator?

That prejudice against gays is justifiable?

Okay Pike, I will go slow.. just for you.

AS this crime happened in the home these two men shared their relationship should be a detail of interests.

Could you imagine this man being married and the wife not being part of the story?

I can imagine it - because stories about child predators are never reported that way.

Honestly, the issue is a red herring. It's under the presumption that news agencies are all in cahoots with one another to omit certain details of the story to fit their agenda. It's so half baked, it's not worth arguing over.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

So what exactly would be the point of highlighting the "gayness" of the perpetrator?

That prejudice against gays is justifiable?

Okay Pike, I will go slow.. just for you.

AS this crime happened in the home these two men shared their relationship should be a detail of interests.

Could you imagine this man being married and the wife not being part of the story?

I can imagine it - because stories about child predators are never reported that way.

Honestly, the issue is a red herring. It's under the presumption that news agencies are all in cahoots with one another to omit certain details of the story to fit their agenda. It's so half baked, it's not worth arguing over.

Well the only time the marital status of the perp gets reported on is when both partners are participating in the abuse.