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Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Philippines
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That's truly Amazing! According to some of the hysteria read on this board you should have wound up in chicken little's gulag or worse yet....the dreaded attorney's office :content:

So, because one person got away with it, this makes it safe for all others to do the same? How irresponsible is that advice? Oh -- and create your VJ timeline, please.

In quoting my reply, kindly keep it in context. I didn't offer advice, it was an observation.

"Hummmmmm, let's see if I have this right?

You passed through 4 domestic airports, out of status with an expired picture ID

and the sky didn't fall?

That's truly Amazing! According to some of the hysteria read on this board you should have wound up in chicken little's gulag or worse yet....the dreaded attorney's office"

The OP didn't get away with anything. She displayed evidence of identity as required to travel domestically within the current TSA guidelines.

The OP did avoid comprimising her immigration status by not showing her passport, that is the point.

Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Philippines
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That's truly Amazing! According to some of the hysteria read on this board you should have wound up in chicken little's gulag or worse yet....the dreaded attorney's office :content:

So, because one person got away with it, this makes it safe for all others to do the same? How irresponsible is that advice? Oh -- and create your VJ timeline, please.

In quoting my reply, kindly keep it in context. I didn't offer advice, it was an observation.

"Hummmmmm, let's see if I have this right?

You passed through 4 domestic airports, out of status with an expired picture ID

and the sky didn't fall?

That's truly Amazing! According to some of the hysteria read on this board you should have wound up in chicken little's gulag or worse yet....the dreaded attorney's office"

The OP didn't get away with anything. She displayed evidence of identity as required to travel domestically within the current TSA guidelines.

The OP did avoid comprimising her immigration status by not showing her passport, that is the point.

oh, i did offer my passport in Detroit airport, but the lady in check-in says she dont need it, i dont play hide and seek I'm just ready with all the paperworks that they might ask from me! and out of 4 airports nobody ask my passport, remember all check- in require that you show your boarding pass and ID to Two separate TSA officer. all maybe i can say is be prepared to all your documents!

and I remember the check in officer in Detroit tells me to renew my License coz its expires already! no hassle at all!

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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Ecuador
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My reply was in line with the context that I perceived: that of dismissive, irresponsible advice that could prove perilous in a worst-case scenario.

Bear in mind that state, county, and local police forces around the country are joining the Immigration & Customs Enforcement (ICE) ACCESS 287(g) or CAP programs, which gives these non-national agencies authority to pursue immigration matters. Accordingly, even the most casual contact with ANY law-enforcement officer (and they hang out in airports, too) can balloon in a most unpleasant way for anyone who is out of status. This is why prudent awareness of potential consequences is ALWAYS appropriate, no matter how far-fetched the warnings may sound on the surface.

Edited by TBoneTX

06-04-2007 = TSC stamps postal return-receipt for I-129f.

06-11-2007 = NOA1 date (unknown to me).

07-20-2007 = Phoned Immigration Officer; got WAC#; where's NOA1?

09-25-2007 = Touch (first-ever).

09-28-2007 = NOA1, 23 days after their 45-day promise to send it (grrrr).

10-20 & 11-14-2007 = Phoned ImmOffs; "still pending."

12-11-2007 = 180 days; file is "between workstations, may be early Jan."; touches 12/11 & 12/12.

12-18-2007 = Call; file is with Division 9 ofcr. (bckgrnd check); e-prompt to shake it; touch.

12-19-2007 = NOA2 by e-mail & web, dated 12-18-07 (187 days; 201 per VJ); in mail 12/24/07.

01-09-2008 = File from USCIS to NVC, 1-4-08; NVC creates file, 1/15/08; to consulate 1/16/08.

01-23-2008 = Consulate gets file; outdated Packet 4 mailed to fiancee 1/27/08; rec'd 3/3/08.

04-29-2008 = Fiancee's 4-min. consular interview, 8:30 a.m.; much evidence brought but not allowed to be presented (consul: "More proof! Second interview! Bring your fiance!").

05-05-2008 = Infuriating $12 call to non-English-speaking consulate appointment-setter.

05-06-2008 = Better $12 call to English-speaker; "joint" interview date 6/30/08 (my selection).

06-30-2008 = Stokes Interrogations w/Ecuadorian (not USC); "wait 2 weeks; we'll mail her."

07-2008 = Daily calls to DOS: "currently processing"; 8/05 = Phoned consulate, got Section Chief; wrote him.

08-07-08 = E-mail from consulate, promising to issue visa "as soon as we get her passport" (on 8/12, per DHL).

08-27-08 = Phoned consulate (they "couldn't find" our file); visa DHL'd 8/28; in hand 9/1; through POE on 10/9 with NO hassles(!).

Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Philippines
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That's truly Amazing! According to some of the hysteria read on this board you should have wound up in chicken little's gulag or worse yet....the dreaded attorney's office :content:
So, because one person got away with it, this makes it safe for all others to do the same? How irresponsible is that advice? Oh -- and create your VJ timeline, please.
It's means that you can travel on air even you visa is expired,just make sure bring those supporting documents in case they will ask for it.
And be prepared for exactly what could happen to you if you're out of status and both you and DaSweetSpot are wrong.

I already proved that I can travel with an expired visa, and for what Ive seen here some other travelled before with an expired visa too and they dont have any problem at all. I dont think I'm wrong and I proved it with Four airports. :thumbs::thumbs::thumbs:

Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Ecuador
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I already proved that I can travel with an expired visa, and for what Ive seen here some other travelled before with an expired visa too and they dont have any problem at all. I dont think I'm wrong and I proved it with Four airports.
Let's hope that your fortune holds, then. Good luck to you. And, in case anyone else is reading, perhaps someday the I-693 requirements will include an inoculation against stupidity. Edited by TBoneTX

06-04-2007 = TSC stamps postal return-receipt for I-129f.

06-11-2007 = NOA1 date (unknown to me).

07-20-2007 = Phoned Immigration Officer; got WAC#; where's NOA1?

09-25-2007 = Touch (first-ever).

09-28-2007 = NOA1, 23 days after their 45-day promise to send it (grrrr).

10-20 & 11-14-2007 = Phoned ImmOffs; "still pending."

12-11-2007 = 180 days; file is "between workstations, may be early Jan."; touches 12/11 & 12/12.

12-18-2007 = Call; file is with Division 9 ofcr. (bckgrnd check); e-prompt to shake it; touch.

12-19-2007 = NOA2 by e-mail & web, dated 12-18-07 (187 days; 201 per VJ); in mail 12/24/07.

01-09-2008 = File from USCIS to NVC, 1-4-08; NVC creates file, 1/15/08; to consulate 1/16/08.

01-23-2008 = Consulate gets file; outdated Packet 4 mailed to fiancee 1/27/08; rec'd 3/3/08.

04-29-2008 = Fiancee's 4-min. consular interview, 8:30 a.m.; much evidence brought but not allowed to be presented (consul: "More proof! Second interview! Bring your fiance!").

05-05-2008 = Infuriating $12 call to non-English-speaking consulate appointment-setter.

05-06-2008 = Better $12 call to English-speaker; "joint" interview date 6/30/08 (my selection).

06-30-2008 = Stokes Interrogations w/Ecuadorian (not USC); "wait 2 weeks; we'll mail her."

07-2008 = Daily calls to DOS: "currently processing"; 8/05 = Phoned consulate, got Section Chief; wrote him.

08-07-08 = E-mail from consulate, promising to issue visa "as soon as we get her passport" (on 8/12, per DHL).

08-27-08 = Phoned consulate (they "couldn't find" our file); visa DHL'd 8/28; in hand 9/1; through POE on 10/9 with NO hassles(!).

Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Philippines
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I already proved that I can travel with an expired visa, and for what Ive seen here some other travelled before with an expired visa too and they dont have any problem at all. I dont think I'm wrong and I proved it with Four airports.
Let's hope that your fortune holds, then. Good luck to you.

Thank You! Goodluck to You too!

Filed: Other Country: Afghanistan
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I already proved that I can travel with an expired visa, and for what Ive seen here some other travelled before with an expired visa too and they dont have any problem at all. I dont think I'm wrong and I proved it with Four airports.
Let's hope that your fortune holds, then. Good luck to you. And, in case anyone else is reading, perhaps someday the I-693 requirements will include an inoculation against stupidity.

LoL, I don't think they understand. When your visa has expired you are technically illegal until you file AOS. All TboneTX is saying is that by moving around the country and coming into close contact with authorities you enter into risk of complicating your status. The risk is very very small, but you can't say that it couldn't happen either.

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I already proved that I can travel with an expired visa, and for what Ive seen here some other travelled before with an expired visa too and they dont have any problem at all. I dont think I'm wrong and I proved it with Four airports. :thumbs::thumbs::thumbs:

Yes, you can travel with an expired visa. They don't care about the visa. It's made null and void the moment you use it to enter the United States. It's the I-94 expiry date that's looked at..... when you present the passport, that is.

As you said, you have proved it. Just like many others have. You have also missed the posts where others have travelled under the same circumstances and been held by ICE until they can prove they are not illegal. Had you won that lottery instead of this lottery, we'd be reading a different story. As Lancer says, all TBone is saying is that it's a risk. And people need to know that risk and make their own judgements on whether to make that gamble.

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