Yardies at Home and a Farrin (part16)

[*JG* 2]

Ells, I worked in a Church office for 7 years in a poorer section of town. We had a food pantry every Tuesday. Helped with gas, electric, rent, diapers, formula, and food in between for those who had need. Sister used to give vouchers to the local market to those who came to the door. We started seeing them leave and sell the vouchers out on the street and then take the cash over to the bar on he corner.

So, she started giving them bags of easy to open foods and a fork. We started finding the whole bags of food in the bushes outside of the Church.

I completely get what you are saying. Hard not to help. But you can only see so much before you start to get jaded and let it effect you. It's such a tough call.

is there a name in jamaica for people who have been deported? there must be....other than eediat?

deportee...

(((KK)))

Ha ha................

[sus 70]

I think having a criminal conviction may be viewed differently from overstaying or a felony conviction may hold more weight than a misdemeanor so it’s pursued more aggressively. Not sure of each individual State but unless there is a serious accident most drunk driving charges are misdemeanors. With this fortunately he was able to supply enough evidence to support his argument against being deported. However the average whoever, only been here less than 2 years, probably won’t find themselves so fortunate. Sure it can take a while before the hearing actually comes up, but then what are they doing in the meantime for the rest of the 9 years? Are they working, can they even get a legitimate job without worrying about it. Will they just be a burden from then on out…that’s a long time watching your every move.

In immigration terms - and before the Board of Immigration Appeals - it's counted in crimes of "Moral Turpitude" - not felony or misdemeanors -

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moral_turpitude

The rule is that any criminal violation that can result in up to 1 year in jail and for which the sentence is more than 6 months actual imprisonment is considered a removable offense. Any crime with a punishment of under 6 months’ imprisonment is deemed a petty violation.

Even if the conviction does not result in a sentence of one year, there are certain crimes for which a conviction alone can lead to removal of the defendant from the country. These are called crimes of moral turpitude. Moral turpitude refers to conduct which is inherently base, vile or depraved, contrary to the accepted roles of morality and the duties owed between men and men, either one's fellowman or society in general. Neither the seriousness of the offense or the severity imposed determines whether or not a crime involves moral turpitude.

[dancehallquana 5]

Quana - Roger seems reasonable...if something comes out...TELL HIM...be frank and address it then. I'm sure he'll recognize it and change.

You have to have Faith in God that Roger is the one for you. Ya'll are so cute together. I wish you the best.

u know him so well kk.. we have to come up and see ya'll i think we all would hit it off enormously..

our first fight was dec 07, cuz i felt he didn't "hold me enough" im a big baby.. but i was already messed up w/ this whole ja/us thing, "is he playing games cuz im an american' I was tired of going over in my mind and just burst out "if u don't like me as much as i like u, then just tell me, i don't have time or money for this!!!!".. he was like.. u been holding all this in for MONTHS quana.. why didnt u tell me.. HE WENT OFF ON ME!!

said if i don't put myself first then nobody else will, if i don't like something i should say it..

i have never had that problem again w/ him we say whats on our minds, he knows all my hesitations and he just shakes his head at me .. and him "hold me" plenty now, in fact i think we can get too touchy touchy sometimes .. but i LOVE IT!!

[*JG* 2]

is there a name in jamaica for people who have been deported? there must be....other than eediat?

Not yet. He's still here. But, when he is deported......and HE WILL BE eventually.....I'll let you know what I call him.

[dancehallquana 5]

so let's say somebody gets convicted of drunk driving and the sentence could be more than a year but they only do 1 month. how do the deportation proceedings begin? how does the immigration people know you were convicted?

finese, from what I remember and the experiences I've seen. Some people get caught up in the system when the go to renew their greencard, returning to the US (know plenty) of people caught this way. Just because you end up in proceedings don't mean seh u ago get deported same time. You have a right to go before a Judge, with or without representation and they have to tell you that. Getting caught up in deportations proceedings can take years to resolve. My brother-in-law was in the system for 5 years before the final hearing last year. He was an overstay that filed for asylum and won!

i would hate to have to even get caught up in it.. such a mess

Quanna; it's not fun at all. Many many of friends and family I've had caught up in the system, but some a dem no RASS LISTEN!....so dem baxide! Some people feel seh dem can do as they want and not be punished...like sell dis get lack up, beat up u ooman have 8 pickney and feel dat cause di pickney dem a US citizen dem naw go deport im claat...lass mi ear a breadfruit im a sell a Ochi.

lawny..ya MAADDD!!!

[*JG* 2]

I think having a criminal conviction may be viewed differently from overstaying or a felony conviction may hold more weight than a misdemeanor so it's pursued more aggressively. Not sure of each individual State but unless there is a serious accident most drunk driving charges are misdemeanors. With this fortunately he was able to supply enough evidence to support his argument against being deported. However the average whoever, only been here less than 2 years, probably won't find themselves so fortunate. Sure it can take a while before the hearing actually comes up, but then what are they doing in the meantime for the rest of the 9 years? Are they working, can they even get a legitimate job without worrying about it. Will they just be a burden from then on out…that's a long time watching your every move.

In immigration terms - and before the Board of Immigration Appeals - it's counted in crimes of "Moral Turpitude" - not felony or misdemeanors -

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moral_turpitude

The rule is that any criminal violation that can result in up to 1 year in jail and for which the sentence is more than 6 months actual imprisonment is considered a removable offense. Any crime with a punishment of under 6 months' imprisonment is deemed a petty violation.

Even if the conviction does not result in a sentence of one year, there are certain crimes for which a conviction alone can lead to removal of the defendant from the country. These are called crimes of moral turpitude. Moral turpitude refers to conduct which is inherently base, vile or depraved, contrary to the accepted roles of morality and the duties owed between men and men, either one's fellowman or society in general. Neither the seriousness of the offense or the severity imposed determines whether or not a crime involves moral turpitude.

Yeah and that is open to interpretation. Sometimes I think they flip a coin.

[TRELAWNY PARISH 10]

OMG! Just went into the office across theh all to help someone with a powerpoint presentation and all I can smell is FEET -- I asked her if she had her shoes off and she said YES -- she then asked why, I said your office smells like feet.....dead silence I think I heard her heart beating.

[finesse 3]

is there a name in jamaica for people who have been deported? there must be....other than eediat?

girl, please in some areas have the "deportee" status mean big tings a gwaane fi u...we had a lot of them in our little area of Trelawny because it's so quiet, but they started poppin up all over Duncans since that use to me a main route for the tour busses and well...it was no a good thing so dem run dem weh

finese mi seh di deportee dem build some rahtid houses...big til eeh caan big no more

i guess.......dem haffi keep there pride some kinda way

[dancehallquana 5]

Quana - I just had a thought...I wonder if Roger is thinking the same thing about you......hahahhaha....he waiting on the foot to drop. See..perfect couple. :-)

nope.. he so sure that we will live in wedded bliss forever one day.. thats what scares me..

[J2A♥oasis 2]

u are right shemmy.. im doing better now cuz i see my stinking thinking..

i was saying the other day.. i am a HOT MESS, i am forever gonna be waiting for him to mess up??? i used to say "when he gets here, he will be different"..then it was "when he's been here longer and gotten comfy, he'll be different" now its "when comes back and gets a job, he will be different"

i know its okay to be cautious and not have blinded eyes, but i really have to relax and live life man, he's given me to reason to think anything but good things about him..

LOL, Quana - One of my friends did that - she was ALWAYS looking for the shoe to drop and the negative with her man - based on her past experiences - I was forever telling her she needed to just jump in and trust that he was the good guy he seemed to be. They just celebrated their 4th wedding anniversary and it hasn't dropped yet.

Quana I’m the same way keep waiting for that other side to show (sometimes even doing things to make it happen ) but nope hasn’t yet. I finally said very recently I’m going to just have to jump…so here’s to looking to many many many wedding anniversaries to come!

[dancehallquana 5]

Tell her a microwave uses less fossil fuel than re-heating things on the stove because it takes less energy to use the microwave to re-heat & is therefore more energy efficient & environmentally friendly!

She is taking environmental science this year. I'm sure next summer she'll be a vegan, eating only raw foods, living in a tree house somewhere . Our house is going green but she taking things to the extreme.

my youngest been wanting me to get a recycling bin forever, get mad when i throw a bubble gum wrapper out the window.. i hate when they learn stuff at skool

you don't recycle?????? shame on you

i know..

[finesse 3]

is there a name in jamaica for people who have been deported? there must be....other than eediat?

Not yet. He's still here. But, when he is deported......and HE WILL BE eventually.....I'll let you know what I call him.

[*JG* 2]

OMG! Just went into the office across theh all to help someone with a powerpoint presentation and all I can smell is FEET -- I asked her if she had her shoes off and she said YES -- she then asked why, I said your office smells like feet.....dead silence I think I heard her heart beating.

Oh no you didn't....

[finesse 3]

Tell her a microwave uses less fossil fuel than re-heating things on the stove because it takes less energy to use the microwave to re-heat & is therefore more energy efficient & environmentally friendly!

She is taking environmental science this year. I'm sure next summer she'll be a vegan, eating only raw foods, living in a tree house somewhere . Our house is going green but she taking things to the extreme.

my youngest been wanting me to get a recycling bin forever, get mad when i throw a bubble gum wrapper out the window.. i hate when they learn stuff at skool

you don't recycle?????? shame on you

i know..

what kinda place are you livin? besides being the right thing to do, isn't it the law???

[dancehallquana 5]

QUANA!! Do you think you're in Jamaica when you do that?? Littering is bad (back to my liberal side...ha ha ha)! Bad for the environment & just don't even get me started on the rest. I'm glad your youngest scolds you!

i know....