Marines Deploy on Major Mission

[nowhereman 1]

So um... poor economy = better military recruiting? The way to win the war on terror is to keep making our economy worse until all it takes to recruit new soldiers is offering them their choice of potato's or vodka for payment...

Bad economy does = better military recruiting, but trust me its not something Obama (or Bush for that matter) did on purpose to improve recruiting numbers.

[Ban Hammer 13,340]

The brigade's commander, Brig. Gen. Lawrence D. Nicholson, said his Marines will focus their efforts on protecting civilians from the Taliban and on restoring Afghan government services, instead of mounting a series of hunt-and-kill missions against the insurgents.

mission creep...........

Not really... Safety & Security of the civilians has always been a priority & Obama stated a long time ago he would focus on economic recovery, rebuilding infrastructure, etc. I was a Civil Affairs officer for 8 years (tours in Bosnia & Iraq) so I am familiar with these types of missions.

not mission creep eh? what was the original mission again?

[nowhereman 1]

The brigade's commander, Brig. Gen. Lawrence D. Nicholson, said his Marines will focus their efforts on protecting civilians from the Taliban and on restoring Afghan government services, instead of mounting a series of hunt-and-kill missions against the insurgents.

mission creep...........

Not really... Safety & Security of the civilians has always been a priority & Obama stated a long time ago he would focus on economic recovery, rebuilding infrastructure, etc. I was a Civil Affairs officer for 8 years (tours in Bosnia & Iraq) so I am familiar with these types of missions.

not mission creep eh? what was the original mission again?

Change in mission & mission creep are two entirely different things.

[Ban Hammer 13,340]

The brigade's commander, Brig. Gen. Lawrence D. Nicholson, said his Marines will focus their efforts on protecting civilians from the Taliban and on restoring Afghan government services, instead of mounting a series of hunt-and-kill missions against the insurgents.

mission creep...........

Not really... Safety & Security of the civilians has always been a priority & Obama stated a long time ago he would focus on economic recovery, rebuilding infrastructure, etc. I was a Civil Affairs officer for 8 years (tours in Bosnia & Iraq) so I am familiar with these types of missions.

not mission creep eh? what was the original mission again?

Change in mission & mission creep are two entirely different things.

so we are not looking for obl anymore?

[alienlovechild 75]

so we are not looking for obl anymore?

After hearing from liberals for 8 years how easy it is to get OBL and how Bush really didn't want to kill or capture him, it appears Obama isn't going to make Osama the number one priority.

[nowhereman 1]

The brigade's commander, Brig. Gen. Lawrence D. Nicholson, said his Marines will focus their efforts on protecting civilians from the Taliban and on restoring Afghan government services, instead of mounting a series of hunt-and-kill missions against the insurgents.

mission creep...........

Not really... Safety & Security of the civilians has always been a priority & Obama stated a long time ago he would focus on economic recovery, rebuilding infrastructure, etc. I was a Civil Affairs officer for 8 years (tours in Bosnia & Iraq) so I am familiar with these types of missions.

not mission creep eh? what was the original mission again?

Change in mission & mission creep are two entirely different things.

so we are not looking for obl anymore?

If the opportunity presents its self sure, but to throw resources at finding him & we really don't know where he is doesn't make sense IMO.

[Ban Hammer 13,340]

The brigade's commander, Brig. Gen. Lawrence D. Nicholson, said his Marines will focus their efforts on protecting civilians from the Taliban and on restoring Afghan government services, instead of mounting a series of hunt-and-kill missions against the insurgents.

mission creep...........

Not really... Safety & Security of the civilians has always been a priority & Obama stated a long time ago he would focus on economic recovery, rebuilding infrastructure, etc. I was a Civil Affairs officer for 8 years (tours in Bosnia & Iraq) so I am familiar with these types of missions.

not mission creep eh? what was the original mission again?

Change in mission & mission creep are two entirely different things.

so we are not looking for obl anymore?

If the opportunity presents its self sure, but to throw resources at finding him & we really don't know where he is doesn't make sense IMO.

so basically, obama gave up on finding osama.

[nowhereman 1]

The brigade's commander, Brig. Gen. Lawrence D. Nicholson, said his Marines will focus their efforts on protecting civilians from the Taliban and on restoring Afghan government services, instead of mounting a series of hunt-and-kill missions against the insurgents.

mission creep...........

Not really... Safety & Security of the civilians has always been a priority & Obama stated a long time ago he would focus on economic recovery, rebuilding infrastructure, etc. I was a Civil Affairs officer for 8 years (tours in Bosnia & Iraq) so I am familiar with these types of missions.

not mission creep eh? what was the original mission again?

Change in mission & mission creep are two entirely different things.

so we are not looking for obl anymore?

If the opportunity presents its self sure, but to throw resources at finding him & we really don't know where he is doesn't make sense IMO.

so basically, obama gave up on finding osama.

I didn't say that. Osama is basically a symbolic figure to the terrorists... we could either focus on finding him (and we don't have any decent intel about where he is) or use those resources towards tangible, measurable results (like training Afghan law enforcement, rebuilding infrastructure, improving the economy, etc). Given this which course of action seems more practical & likely to yield the desired results?

[Ban Hammer 13,340]

The brigade's commander, Brig. Gen. Lawrence D. Nicholson, said his Marines will focus their efforts on protecting civilians from the Taliban and on restoring Afghan government services, instead of mounting a series of hunt-and-kill missions against the insurgents.

mission creep...........

Not really... Safety & Security of the civilians has always been a priority & Obama stated a long time ago he would focus on economic recovery, rebuilding infrastructure, etc. I was a Civil Affairs officer for 8 years (tours in Bosnia & Iraq) so I am familiar with these types of missions.

not mission creep eh? what was the original mission again?

Change in mission & mission creep are two entirely different things.

so we are not looking for obl anymore?

If the opportunity presents its self sure, but to throw resources at finding him & we really don't know where he is doesn't make sense IMO.

so basically, obama gave up on finding osama.

I didn't say that. Osama is basically a symbolic figure to the terrorists... we could either focus on finding him (and we don't have any decent intel about where he is) or use those resources towards tangible, measurable results (like training Afghan law enforcement, rebuilding infrastructure, improving the economy, etc). Given this which course of action seems more practical & likely to yield the desired results?

so if they didn't give up finding him, and have included other missions for them to do, that's not mission creep?

Main Entry: mission creep

Part of Speech: n

Definition: the gradual process by which a campaign or mission's objectives change over time, esp. with undesirable consequences

Example: The only way to explain our involvement in Iraq is mission creep.

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[luckytxn 2,264]

So it seems that we are not going to bring our troops home but shift them somewhere else. Way to go Obama the Socialist.

[nowhereman 1]

Main Entry: mission creep

Part of Speech: n

Definition: the gradual process by which a campaign or mission's objectives change over time, esp. with undesirable consequences

Example: The only way to explain our involvement in Iraq is mission creep.

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Mission creep is an unplanned change... something like "honey take out the garbage" and while you are in the garage getting the garbage its "honey while you are in the garage can you clean it too?" Obama said from day 1 that he would shift the emphasis from combat operations (yes I know that is not a clearly defined term) to a training/ rebuilding.

[nowhereman 1]

So it seems that we are not going to bring our troops home but shift them somewhere else. Way to go Obama the Socialist.

First of all this has absolutely nothing to do with socialism & secondly Obama always said he would add troops in Afghanistan. He has said that all U.S. troops would be out of Iraq by 2011 & I'm not sure that will be feasible (we will see).

[Ban Hammer 13,340]

So it seems that we are not going to bring our troops home but shift them somewhere else. Way to go Obama the Socialist.

First of all this has absolutely nothing to do with socialism & secondly Obama always said he would add troops in Afghanistan. He has said that all U.S. troops would be out of Iraq by 2011 & I'm not sure that will be feasible (we will see).

not surprising really. out of iraq by 2011, just in time for the reelection campaign.

either way one slices it, we're chasing our tails over there and we need to drastically reduce our presence (and costs).

[luckytxn 2,264]

So it seems that we are not going to bring our troops home but shift them somewhere else. Way to go Obama the Socialist.

First of all this has absolutely nothing to do with socialism & secondly Obama always said he would add troops in Afghanistan. He has said that all U.S. troops would be out of Iraq by 2011 & I'm not sure that will be feasible (we will see).

not surprising really. out of iraq by 2011, just in time for the reelection campaign.

either way one slices it, we're chasing our tails over there and we need to drastically reduce our presence (and costs).

Reducing costs is not the Socialist way of doing things.

[Hilarious Clinton 452]

Goooo Marines!!!!!! Kill them radical Islamic bastards.