India Rejects Any Greenhouse-Gas Cuts Under New Climate Treaty

[HAL 9000 96]

IMO-It's outrageous to me that the likes of China thumb their collective nose at the data surrounding their emmissions. But that's just me, and while we are imposing restrictions and taxes to offset pollutants here on our folks-we are still buying their #######. What was it Steven said about 'consumer choice'? now that is a rule I do try to follow, I avoid buying ####### from China if I can-but try finding a toaster or anything that doesn't have the little gold 'made in China' sticker on it........

Agreed. We have choices most of the time. And when we don't, we really need to reconsider pushing our politicians to make it so.

Just because someone else is being a douchebag, doesn't mean I have to be one.

[w¡n9Nµ7 §£@¥€r 123]

It's my sense that young urban people in India have gone a little 'overboard' with it all. There's a coarse, but accurate racial analogy I could make to more aptly describe their behavior to an American audience, but I won't.

Why suddenly hold back on us now?

Because I can.

Give into your dark side and you'll feel more powerful.

I will gladly share this with you face to face. I'll never type it out.

[alienlovechild 75]

It's my sense that young urban people in India have gone a little 'overboard' with it all. There's a coarse, but accurate racial analogy I could make to more aptly describe their behavior to an American audience, but I won't.

Why suddenly hold back on us now?

Because I can.

Give into your dark side and you'll feel more powerful.

I will gladly share this with you face to face. I'll never type it out.

It's not that important as my Indian boss is plenty critical of NRIs and of things in India.

I'm just surprised since you've had plenty of harsh words for members of other groups.

[w¡n9Nµ7 §£@¥€r 123]

I'm just surprised since you've had plenty of harsh words for members of other groups.

Nothing quite like this.

[one...two...tree 2,762]

If India isn't going to cooperate and China expected to double its carbon output then what is the use of us cutting back? It will not change a thing as far as CO2 goes and will cripple our industry. Any company that feels our restrictions are hurting them will just move to India or China. We will see a greater exodus of our industry base moving out. We need to encourage companies to stay, not give them more reason to leave.

so hippies can go to bed feeling less guilty.

If I didn't know any better, Charles, I'd say you just made a snide remark aimed at people like me. Tsk, tsk.

[Ban Hammer 13,894]

If India isn't going to cooperate and China expected to double its carbon output then what is the use of us cutting back? It will not change a thing as far as CO2 goes and will cripple our industry. Any company that feels our restrictions are hurting them will just move to India or China. We will see a greater exodus of our industry base moving out. We need to encourage companies to stay, not give them more reason to leave.

so hippies can go to bed feeling less guilty.

If I didn't know any better, Charles, I'd say you just made a snide remark aimed at people like me. Tsk, tsk.

why, are you feeling guilty for something?

[one...two...tree 2,762]

If India isn't going to cooperate and China expected to double its carbon output then what is the use of us cutting back? It will not change a thing as far as CO2 goes and will cripple our industry. Any company that feels our restrictions are hurting them will just move to India or China. We will see a greater exodus of our industry base moving out. We need to encourage companies to stay, not give them more reason to leave.

so hippies can go to bed feeling less guilty.

If I didn't know any better, Charles, I'd say you just made a snide remark aimed at people like me. Tsk, tsk.

why, are you feeling guilty for something?

You're the one who's defining guilt manifested into activism. Why do you believe it is guilt?

[Ban Hammer 13,894]

If India isn't going to cooperate and China expected to double its carbon output then what is the use of us cutting back? It will not change a thing as far as CO2 goes and will cripple our industry. Any company that feels our restrictions are hurting them will just move to India or China. We will see a greater exodus of our industry base moving out. We need to encourage companies to stay, not give them more reason to leave.

so hippies can go to bed feeling less guilty.

If I didn't know any better, Charles, I'd say you just made a snide remark aimed at people like me. Tsk, tsk.

why, are you feeling guilty for something?

You're the one who's defining guilt manifested into activism. Why do you believe it is guilt?

why do you believe you're a hippy?

[one...two...tree 2,762]

If India isn't going to cooperate and China expected to double its carbon output then what is the use of us cutting back? It will not change a thing as far as CO2 goes and will cripple our industry. Any company that feels our restrictions are hurting them will just move to India or China. We will see a greater exodus of our industry base moving out. We need to encourage companies to stay, not give them more reason to leave.

so hippies can go to bed feeling less guilty.

If I didn't know any better, Charles, I'd say you just made a snide remark aimed at people like me. Tsk, tsk.

why, are you feeling guilty for something?

You're the one who's defining guilt manifested into activism. Why do you believe it is guilt?

why do you believe you're a hippy?

Around and around the mulberry bush...

[mawilson 2,133]

If India isn't going to cooperate and China expected to double its carbon output then what is the use of us cutting back? It will not change a thing as far as CO2 goes and will cripple our industry. Any company that feels our restrictions are hurting them will just move to India or China. We will see a greater exodus of our industry base moving out. We need to encourage companies to stay, not give them more reason to leave.

The point is to collect more taxes to pay for all those new social programs. It has nothing to

do with the environment.

Personally, I think that energy is just a means to an end. We need energy to do other,

more productive things. Creating "new jobs" to produce energy is stupid - energy should be

created with as few jobs as possible. An "energy job" gained is a job lost elsewhere in the

economy.

[Ban Hammer 13,894]

If India isn't going to cooperate and China expected to double its carbon output then what is the use of us cutting back? It will not change a thing as far as CO2 goes and will cripple our industry. Any company that feels our restrictions are hurting them will just move to India or China. We will see a greater exodus of our industry base moving out. We need to encourage companies to stay, not give them more reason to leave.

so hippies can go to bed feeling less guilty.

If I didn't know any better, Charles, I'd say you just made a snide remark aimed at people like me. Tsk, tsk.

why, are you feeling guilty for something?

You're the one who's defining guilt manifested into activism. Why do you believe it is guilt?

why do you believe you're a hippy?

Around and around the mulberry bush...

getting dizzy yet?

[dalegg 143]

If India isn't going to cooperate and China expected to double its carbon output then what is the use of us cutting back? It will not change a thing as far as CO2 goes and will cripple our industry. Any company that feels our restrictions are hurting them will just move to India or China. We will see a greater exodus of our industry base moving out. We need to encourage companies to stay, not give them more reason to leave.

The point is to collect more taxes to pay for all those new social programs. It has nothing to

do with the environment.

Personally, I think that energy is just a means to an end. We need energy to do other,

more productive things. Creating "new jobs" to produce energy is stupid - energy should be

created with as few jobs as possible. An "energy job" gained is a job lost elsewhere in the

economy.

Especially since newer energy sources are supposed to be more efficient. Where I'm from, more efficient means less maintenance, and less maintenance means less employees.

[HAL 9000 96]

Maybe the newer energy forms require maintenance to keep up the mechanical efficiency at full peak. The efficiency of interest when it comes to energy deals more with (maximal) efficient utilization of raw materials at low to no pollution byproducts.

[dalegg 143]

Maybe the newer energy forms require maintenance to keep up the mechanical efficiency at full peak. The efficiency of interest when it comes to energy deals more with (maximal) efficient utilization of raw materials at low to no pollution byproducts.

I think it will just take more people to care the billions of hampsters needed run the new plants.

[HAL 9000 96]

Maybe the newer energy forms require maintenance to keep up the mechanical efficiency at full peak. The efficiency of interest when it comes to energy deals more with (maximal) efficient utilization of raw materials at low to no pollution byproducts.

I think it will just take more people to care the billions of hampsters needed run the new plants.

Perhaps. Or people riding stationary bikes. Cut health care costs that way too.