I understand illegal immigration

[Wyld Blu 35]

Actually, I am not a troll. You can see MANY of my other posts in these forums as we go through this process. I knew this would be controversial, and the intent was for input. The attacks were a bit surprising, but it's ok too. Not everyone can participate in a controversial conversation without getting emotional I guess.

I am still interested in people's opinions on this subject as my opinions have changed while going through legal immigration. I just wanted to know if your's had as well, and what your opinions are. I really thought this would be an interesting conversation. If you don't, that's ok too.

-Blu-(grains of salt)

[The_Dude 1,142]

w00t the enemies of fun have opened up this thread again

[NArocks 13]

I taught for 3 years under the curricular standards of the FL Department of Education in Miami. Can't say I used Spanish in the classroom unless I was crosslinking English to Latin to Spanish to help the new arrivals catch scientific terms of Latin origin.

See - http://www.visajourney.com/forums/index.ph...t&p=3078395

Sure does. And when it does... students learn by immersion. Specially when they're younger.

Immersion is the best way. people do not beleive me when I tell then there is no latin in my blood ( in my stomach yes ). I am grateful to know Spanish and now my Daughters is starting to pick it up from her friends and work. When mariel came in the 1980 some teachers had to speak in Spanish to the kids as they were not getting it. Then it would go right back to English. I grew up in little Havana Miami. About 10 blocks from calle ocho and 22nd ave sw

And the bell rings ding ding ding

[Chica Yeyé 41]

Being monolingual is nothing to be too proud of, you know?

One can be multi-lingual and still not speak Spanish, you know?

Very good point!

Hey, I completely agree. But if any job requires "X" language and you don't speak it, you are not qualified for it. End of story.

[EstebanTrabajos 7]

I learned french by going to France for 4 months and suffering,

PERIOD

if you think that by having a bi-weekly class where you learn you ABC and speaking other language outside the classroom and watching TV in your own language will get you to learn another language you are out of your mind.

[Chica Yeyé 41]

I learned french by going to France for 4 months and suffering,

PERIOD

if you think that by having a bi-weekly class where you learn you ABC and speaking other language outside the classroom and watching TV in your own language will get you to learn another language you are out of your mind.

Did the suffering involved waterboarding????

[EstebanTrabajos 7]

nope

but eating fois gras can count as one

[Chica Yeyé 41]

nope

but eating fois gras can count as one

foie gras, FTW!!!

[EstebanTrabajos 7]

not really

Escargot yummy!

if you'd see the way they make it, I doubt you would eat it again...

Edited June 30, 2009 by TävôLuDô

[Wyld Blu 35]

I learned french by going to France for 4 months and suffering,

PERIOD

if you think that by having a bi-weekly class where you learn you ABC and speaking other language outside the classroom and watching TV in your own language will get you to learn another language you are out of your mind.

I have heard that immersion is a great way to learn a new language. I think the problem I have with it is when it becomes mandatory. Actually, more so the school than the job. I can understand, for example, if you are talking to customers who only speak a different language, it becomes critical. However, in school, not given an option, an 8 yr old is thrust into a different language class that he doesn't understand, and starts to fail. Put into a different school, he excelled. Of course, it could have been any language, and he may have had other issues, although they started when he entered that class and ended when removed.

But the bigger issue isn't even about the language. It is, at least for me, about how people view illegal immigrants prior to going about it legally, and now in the midst of it, or after immigration is done.

-Blu-

[Chica Yeyé 41]

not really

Escargot yummy!

if you'd see the way they make it, I doubt you would eat it again...

I love French Food. I really, really do.

and i know how they make foie gras and yessss.... it is pretty darn gross

[EstebanTrabajos 7]

don't get me wrong here,

If they are MAKING your kid to go to school and to be in a classroom where the teacher speaks another language than his/her mother tongue, I say it's not right.

[Chica Yeyé 41]

don't get me wrong here,

If they are MAKING your kid to go to school and to be in a classroom where the teacher speaks another language than his/her mother tongue, I say it's not right.

true dat

[EstebanTrabajos 7]

not really

Escargot yummy!

if you'd see the way they make it, I doubt you would eat it again...

I love French Food. I really, really do.

and i know how they make foie gras and yessss.... it is pretty darn gross

sadist

[NArocks 13]

don't get me wrong here,

If they are MAKING your kid to go to school and to be in a classroom where the teacher speaks another language than his/her mother tongue, I say it's not right.

Especailly if it is a public school, ####### get on the phone contact your representatives just like in immigration.

We are tax payers and support the public education system

Edited June 30, 2009 by NArocks