I understand illegal immigration

[Chica Yeyé 41]

not really

Escargot yummy!

if you'd see the way they make it, I doubt you would eat it again...

I love French Food. I really, really do.

and i know how they make foie gras and yessss.... it is pretty darn gross

sadist

it's called gourmet, Messikan B)

[EstebanTrabajos 7]

Gourmet ni madre

[Chica Yeyé 41]

Gourmet ni madre

stfu snail eater

[EstebanTrabajos 7]

yum yum!

[scandal 951]

I learned french by going to France for 4 months and suffering,

PERIOD

if you think that by having a bi-weekly class where you learn you ABC and speaking other language outside the classroom and watching TV in your own language will get you to learn another language you are out of your mind.

I have heard that immersion is a great way to learn a new language. I think the problem I have with it is when it becomes mandatory. Actually, more so the school than the job. I can understand, for example, if you are talking to customers who only speak a different language, it becomes critical. However, in school, not given an option, an 8 yr old is thrust into a different language class that he doesn't understand, and starts to fail. Put into a different school, he excelled. Of course, it could have been any language, and he may have had other issues, although they started when he entered that class and ended when removed.

But the bigger issue isn't even about the language. It is, at least for me, about how people view illegal immigrants prior to going about it legally, and now in the midst of it, or after immigration is done.

-Blu-

Well I guess you know how a generation of Quebec Anglo kids felt in the years after the Bill 101 Language Law was introduced in 1977.

With limited exceptions, all kids had to attend French speaking schools.

Even kids who came from English speaking homes, and from families that had lived in Quebec and been English speaking for generations.

And even when the parents were willing to pay for private school tuitions.

No one had a problem with bilingual education, or even immersion programs in French.

But mandatory forced French-only education for all, with no legal recourse?

No sh!t many families hit the highway, literally, and packed up and moved down the road to Ontario.

[mawilson 2,133]

Well I guess you know how a generation of Quebec Anglo kids felt in the years after the Bill 101 Language Law was introduced in 1977.

With limited exceptions, all kids had to attend French speaking schools.

Even kids who came from English speaking homes, and from families that had lived in Quebec and been English speaking for generations.

And even when the parents were willing to pay for private school tuitions.

No one had a problem with bilingual education, or even immersion programs in French.

But mandatory forced French-only education for all, with no legal recourse?

No sh!t many families hit the highway, literally, and packed up and moved down the road to Ontario.

Not cool.

[Chica Yeyé 41]

Well I guess you know how a generation of Quebec Anglo kids felt in the years after the Bill 101 Language Law was introduced in 1977.

With limited exceptions, all kids had to attend French speaking schools.

Even kids who came from English speaking homes, and from families that had lived in Quebec and been English speaking for generations.

And even when the parents were willing to pay for private school tuitions.

No one had a problem with bilingual education, or even immersion programs in French.

But mandatory forced French-only education for all, with no legal recourse?

No sh!t many families hit the highway, literally, and packed up and moved down the road to Ontario.

Not cool.

Ontario??? Cold as frozen hell

[Amby 490]

on that last one - who will preside over that court room? a federal judge?

A sort of Mayor?

[EstebanTrabajos 7]

*aplausos*

[scandal 951]

Well I guess you know how a generation of Quebec Anglo kids felt in the years after the Bill 101 Language Law was introduced in 1977.

With limited exceptions, all kids had to attend French speaking schools.

Even kids who came from English speaking homes, and from families that had lived in Quebec and been English speaking for generations.

And even when the parents were willing to pay for private school tuitions.

No one had a problem with bilingual education, or even immersion programs in French.

But mandatory forced French-only education for all, with no legal recourse?

No sh!t many families hit the highway, literally, and packed up and moved down the road to Ontario.

Not cool.

Ontario??? Cold as frozen hell

stfu and go back to hotter than hades meseeko, u!

Ontario eez my home and native land. Well, one of my many home and native lands

[Amby 490]

Die angry or learn a language, choices, choices...

I really don't understand why so many people are against learning a second language. I wish I was dedicated enough to become fluent. A new language is great for building/keeping connections in the brain

[Wyld Blu 35]

I learned french by going to France for 4 months and suffering,

PERIOD

if you think that by having a bi-weekly class where you learn you ABC and speaking other language outside the classroom and watching TV in your own language will get you to learn another language you are out of your mind.

I have heard that immersion is a great way to learn a new language. I think the problem I have with it is when it becomes mandatory. Actually, more so the school than the job. I can understand, for example, if you are talking to customers who only speak a different language, it becomes critical. However, in school, not given an option, an 8 yr old is thrust into a different language class that he doesn't understand, and starts to fail. Put into a different school, he excelled. Of course, it could have been any language, and he may have had other issues, although they started when he entered that class and ended when removed.

But the bigger issue isn't even about the language. It is, at least for me, about how people view illegal immigrants prior to going about it legally, and now in the midst of it, or after immigration is done.

-Blu-

Well I guess you know how a generation of Quebec Anglo kids felt in the years after the Bill 101 Language Law was introduced in 1977.

With limited exceptions, all kids had to attend French speaking schools.

Even kids who came from English speaking homes, and from families that had lived in Quebec and been English speaking for generations.

And even when the parents were willing to pay for private school tuitions.

No one had a problem with bilingual education, or even immersion programs in French.

But mandatory forced French-only education for all, with no legal recourse?

No sh!t many families hit the highway, literally, and packed up and moved down the road to Ontario.

I do wonder if taking an immersion class if you are living in the country where the language is spoken there by everyone around you is easier. For example when I last went to Holland, I didn't speak a lick of dutch. However, after being there only 3 weeks, I had all the simple stuff down, counting to 10, please, thank you, stuff like that. But then EVERYONE around me spoke that too. Do you think an immersion class in a language other than what you hear all the time from your friends or family speak for example, would make that more difficult?

-Blu-

[Amby 490]

not really

Escargot yummy!

if you'd see the way they make it, I doubt you would eat it again...

the way they raise ducks for foie? I admit some of it is pretty crazy, but it won't stop me from eating it.

[EstebanTrabajos 7]

nope,

Kids learn languages faster; it's not uncommon for Europeans to speak 2, 3, 4 or more languages because they learned them during childhood; countries are so close from one another, or like in the case of Switzerland where they have 3 official languages (french, german and italian) that makes the learning experience easier.

So, no it is a tad harder but not impossible, besides I dislike the attitude of "let's not push the kids to learn", nothing in this world is easy.

NUFF said

Edited June 30, 2009 by TävôLuDô

[Amby 490]

nope,

Kids learn languages faster; it's not uncommon for European to speak 2, 3, 4 or more languages because countries are so close from one another, or like in the case of Switzerland where they have 3 official languages (french, german and italian).

So, no it is a tad harder but not impossible, besides I dislike the attitude of not push the kids to learn, nothing in this world nor life are easy

NUFF said

I wish my grandparents would have spoke german to me when I was little. Learning a new language now is sooooo hard. All the rules are completely different than what I'm used to. I like the challenge, but give up and start again quite often.