"Wife" lied on visa application

[ScottThuy 140]

Ok......

so what is the point in continually posting your issues with her here on the internet.

He likes the attention, especially now that he is alone ...

Plenty of puppy's out there that need homes. or is that a bad idea?

[baron555 934]

More deception from my "wife" has been brought to our attention. She entered the U.S. on a J-1 Visa on June 25th, 2008. She had claimed to be a Student, but had already graduated University in Iasi, Romania. I met her on July 17th, 2008. Throughout our relationship and eventual marriage here, she stated to me on multiple occasions that she was "so lucky" to have gotten the J-1 because she was not a student. My ignorance of Visa's and how they worked (I have only traveled to Canada, didnt need a passport etc, never been to Europe etc.) made me think nothing of it. She said on numerous occasions that she was technically not supposed to be here or get the J-1.

What are the penalties for such fraud as making false claims on the visa application? She also stated on all AOS forms we filed (which I ultimately withdrew) that she was a Student, and entered the U.S. as a Student, which was deceptive.

First, there's no way she got a J-1 Visa without a sponsor to provide a DS-2019. Second, you don't have to be a student to get one, since it covers academic exchange and post-graduate work, among other things. If she had just finished University, there is no fraud in saying that she was a student, lots of people go to school more than once, and lots of people call themselves "students" in that situation. She may not have thought she should get a J-1, but apparently her American sponsor and the embassy in Bucharesti thought she should.

Drop it.

So then there was no fraud.

[clueless_in_usa 8]

More deception from my "wife" has been brought to our attention. She entered the U.S. on a J-1 Visa on June 25th, 2008. She had claimed to be a Student, but had already graduated University in Iasi, Romania. I met her on July 17th, 2008. Throughout our relationship and eventual marriage here, she stated to me on multiple occasions that she was "so lucky" to have gotten the J-1 because she was not a student. My ignorance of Visa's and how they worked (I have only traveled to Canada, didnt need a passport etc, never been to Europe etc.) made me think nothing of it. She said on numerous occasions that she was technically not supposed to be here or get the J-1.

What are the penalties for such fraud as making false claims on the visa application? She also stated on all AOS forms we filed (which I ultimately withdrew) that she was a Student, and entered the U.S. as a Student, which was deceptive.

When "students" apply for the Work and Travel program to get a J-1 visa, they must do so months in advance (of the summer). Therefore, if she got her diploma right before she came to USA (at the end of the school year in June), she was indeed a student during the time she had the interview. That means: She did NOT lie!!!

The only way to prove that she lied is to know which questions she was asked during the interview. If she lied about when she was getting her diploma, then you have a case. Otherwise, you are out of luck. You are going to have to find a different excuse to charge her with a crime.

I am sorry to quench your euphoria

[Aniomaman 0]

OP: Have you taken out the time to check on the requirements of a J-1 Visa before coming out to claim she obtained it fraudulently? She had a sponsor who believed she was qualified for the visa and the US embassy in her country also did their checks. Please don't sound so illiterate, do your research first.

I read your other thread and even though I felt sorry for you at the beginning, I actually don't think you should be in a relationship or probably you have never been in one before you met your 'wife'. You whine like a kid for heaven's sake!!! You made the ultimate mistake by marrying a woman whom you know nothing about within 2 months of meeting her and like clueless said in the other thread, you lot just never take responsibility for your actions which is why you will ALWAYS keep on ending up with these women. I know the USA has beautiful women but somehow you seem to enjoy fratanizing with the 'illegal immigrants' like you call them, date local and see if that will work for you.

Relationships come and go but if I loved a woman so much as to marry her in 2 months(my parents would deny me if I did that) then thrawling the internet and slandering her would never come to mind. I know it hurts to be left alone but if this attitutude you have on here is anything to go by then I think you actually drove that woman out of your life and she definitely did a good job putting up with this whinning. You are not the first and you might never be the last that will be duped but you are hurting yourself more by going on about nothing.

Myself and my SO have African parents(don't even say anything negative about where I come from 'cos I will come down on you like a ton of brick) and before we decided to tell our families about our relationship, we wanted to be sure that we knew what we wanted(that took 7 years). Don't blame your wife for what you mom is going through, you CAUSED it and you need to take RESPONSIBILITY for not protecting the poor woman from being hurt and if I was your elder brother or sister trust me you would get some good #### whooping for that.

Just let your wife be and if she has done you any wrong, let karma take care of that. You need counselling and it will do you good to get one before this issue drives you insane...trust me you are almost at that point going by what I have seen online.

Good Luck.

[What Happened? 4]

Relationships come and go but if I loved a woman so much as to marry her in 2 months(my parents would deny me if I did that) then thrawling the internet and slandering her would never come to mind. I know it hurts to be left alone but if this attitutude you have on here is anything to go by then I think you actually drove that woman out of your life and she definitely did a good job putting up with this whinning. You are not the first and you might never be the last that will be duped but you are hurting yourself more by going on about nothing.

Myself and my SO have African parents(don't even say anything negative about where I come from 'cos I will come down on you like a ton of brick) and before we decided to tell our families about our relationship, we wanted to be sure that we knew what we wanted(that took 7 years). Don't blame your wife for what you mom is going through, you CAUSED it and you need to take RESPONSIBILITY for not protecting the poor woman from being hurt and if I was your elder brother or sister trust me you would get some good #### whooping for that.

Good Luck.

Lord have mercy! Whooo! OP you think you're hurting? Be glad you haven't had the type of African ### whoopin Justchillin is talking about.

We're talking about a whole family and neighborhood whoopin ###...... Now that's pain you won't soon forget.

[diadromous mermaid 36]

He says he withdrew the AOS documents, though, so what is the Affidavit hinged to?

Goodness! You just won't let go, will you? Seriously Merrilizer; why not concentrate on getting your life back together instead of placing so much effort and energy cultivating more sour grapes dude?

Perhaps he doesn't want to be held to the affidavit of support (hanging over you like a sword)?

If he can prove fraud (from the beginning), that would invalidate the affidavit. (so says a lawyer)

If she was here in a J-1, be it appropriately secured, or, as Merrillizer opines, secured deceptively, what marriage-fraud was commited by the alien? The alien was already here and with a visa. She didn't need to marry to remain.

Edited June 29, 2009 by diadromous mermaid

[Old Dominion 26]

The OP is looking for ammunition to use in his effort to have his marriage annulled based on fraud. Since she didn't misrepresent herself to him -- that is, she didn't claim to be a student when they agreed to marry -- the kind of visa she had was not relevant to the marriage.

He wasn't seeking advice on how to get over this trauma in their respective lives. These comments on his motivations, his anger, his apparent desire to have her deported, etc. etc. have nothing to do with the question he asked. His generalized comments on her character also don't belong here.

[What Happened? 4]

This man is just waiting energy. I'm sorry that it happened this way but the best revenge is to LIVE A GOOD LIFE.

Get on with it.

[Aniomaman 0]

I honestly don't know why the OP thinks it's within his right to have her deported. You didn't bring her to this country in the first place. Be careful with what you doing because it might just come back to bite you. You are evidently bitter at the fact that this woman left you and I am 99.9% sure we are not getting the true story of what happened to your marriage. You stated in your post that you took her to a Pizza place to get an 'under the table' job without a work permit, that in itself discredits you and I hope you also informed the ICE about that. You once loved this woman, you need to sit back and have a re-think.

[Peace be still 6]

I feel bad for what happened to you, but ONLY GOD will give you the peace and the answer you are looking for. FORGIVENESS

Please try to let it go, it will be better for your health and will help you heal better, back when she was with you and both of you being happy, I doubt you felt her visa or the fact you got to share some times together, if it wasn't an issued then, so i shouldn't be one now, give the girl a break, You might feel a HIGH from keeping talking bad about your EX WIFE, she's your EX now as IN THE PAST.

Everybody knows what she did to you WAS WRONG, but only God can judge her for her actions and I do beleive in Karma what goes around, comes around, one day she will pay for it. You have done what you can on your side by reporting her, so she may not be able to do it to another person, with that said, try to move on with your life and FORGET ABOUT HER.

But instead of sympathy people will look at you at an angry, vindictive person, Is that the image you want to portray of yourself, IF you have kids is that the attitude you would like to teach them.

Please, Please and Please again get a Counselor if you are unable to deal with this pain by yourself, talk to a dear friend, someone who really cares about you, who's not going to say yes yes yes, just so you can feel nice.

I hope in due time you will see things in perspective and learned from it, and like they say what doesn't kill you, only make you stronger. Please take care of yourself

God Bless!!

Best response, Let's pray he takes head to the wise Words you just wrote.

[baron555 934]

The OP is looking for ammunition to use in his effort to have his marriage annulled based on fraud. Since she didn't misrepresent herself to him -- that is, she didn't claim to be a student when they agreed to marry -- the kind of visa she had was not relevant to the marriage.

He wasn't seeking advice on how to get over this trauma in their respective lives. These comments on his motivations, his anger, his apparent desire to have her deported, etc. etc. have nothing to do with the question he asked. His generalized comments on her character also don't belong here.

In the beginning he said that both loved each other. And it was after his persuading that she did remain in the country. I think the marriage was bonafide in the beginning. After living with him, she left.

Always two sides to every story. Yes she later said she never loved him but that may have been her hurt feelings talking.

I hope she gets to stay; she probably deserves it. Again, we do not have her side of the story; it might be a very different one.

Edited June 29, 2009 by baron555

[M.O 6]

[B'sA 0]

Ha-ha, Olesea, bine zis!

[JANETandLYLE 11]

Ha-ha, Olesea, bine zis!

And the SAGA, continues.......

Edited June 30, 2009 by JANETandLYLE

[mikeNcharlene 0]

You knew her for 2 months before you married her. Its very difficult to understand where your logical thinking came into place here.