billy graham ..calls Jews...'synagogue of Satan'

[almaty 19]

1973 conversation between President Nixon and evangelist Billy Graham about Jews, laden with critical references including a Biblical verse on the "synagogue of Satan," has put the aging, frail Graham back in unwelcome headlines.

The conversation is part of newly-released secretly recorded tapes from the Nixon presidency, from the U.S. National Archives in College Park, Md., and the Richard Nixon Presidential Library in Yorba Linda, Calif. A sampling of more than 150 hours of tape recordings and 30,000 pages of documents from two months in 1973 were made public Tuesday (download at Nixon.archives.gov/National Archives), culled from 4,000 hours of taped meetings and phone calls in a two-year period.

An earlier release of tapes in 2002 shocked fans of Graham, who is heard agreeing with Nixon as the president rails against liberal Jews' political activism and media clout. Graham tells Nixon how Jews befriend him but adds, "They don't know how I really feel about what they're doing to this country."

FAITH & REASON: What does 'synagogue of Satan' really mean?

On Wednesday, as he did in 2002, Graham's longtime spokesman A. Larry Ross said Graham has never been an anti-Semite and that the remarks should be understood in context, as part of a conversation with the president.

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In 2002, Graham said he had no recollection of such remarks but apologized deeply for any offense they may have caused. Now, Graham, 90, and still mobile with a walker, is no longer doing media interviews, although he sent a message of greeting to a meeting of the Southern Baptist Convention, underway in Louisville.

The 1973 transcript is a wide-ranging conversation between Graham and Nixon in which Graham heaps praise on the president, telling him "Congratulations on everything," and "I believe the Lord is with you."

Nixon raises the news that Israel had mistakenly shot down a Libyan civilian airliner, killing all on board. Nixon says, "What I really think is, deep down in this country, there is a lot of anti-Semitism, and all this is going to do is stir it up."

Graham agrees that it will push anti-Semitism "right to the top." Then he turns the conversation to a report he read somewhere that Israel supposedly wants to "expel all the Christians." Graham mentions Jewish opposition to a Christian evangelical unified campaign, saying Jews are "going right after the church."

He also mentions an upcoming meeting with the interreligious affairs director of the American Jewish Committee, the late Rabbi Marc Tanenbaum. In 1977, the organization honored Graham, saying, according to Graham biographer William Martin, that "most of the progress of Protestant-Jewish relations over the past quarter century was due to Billy Graham."

In 1973, Graham calls Tanenbaum the "cleverest and most brilliant" of the rabbis.

Nixon mentions an upcoming dinner with Israeli Prime Minister Golda Meir, and Graham, who said in earlier taped conversations that Israelis were the best kind of Jews, now brings up a biblical reference to the dense and difficult final book of the Bible, Revelation, which says in verse 3:9 that there are those who claim to be Jews who are liars, and that they belong to a "synagogue of Satan."

This is a prophetic book by John the apostle who, like Christ, was Jewish.

Anti-Defamation League director Abraham Foxman on Wednesday blasted both Nixon and Graham, saying that, "while never expressing these views in public, Rev. Graham unabashedly held forth with the president with age-old classical anti-Semitic canards."

But Ross says the "synagogue of Satan" phrase in the Book of Revelation actually refers to anyone whose "lives and work are not in keeping with traditional Jewish values."

[almaty 19]

hmmmm....no interst on vj in this.....i guess, i post a Muslim thread..Muslim leaders says Jews are satan..and watch to grow to 12 pages by this afternoon

[one...two...tree 2,762]

I've read before that Evangelicals' supposed fondness for Israeli Jews has to do with the Book of Revelation - that Israel must prevail for the end of times to take place, but they still consider them 'lost souls' unless they accept Jesus as their Savior. They have a very skewed understanding of scripture.

[Nagishkaw 510]

Yep.

[almaty 19]

It is true..allot of folks I grew up with ..had a bias towards Jews (and others) but were pro israel because of the scriptures...

understood..that their beliefs are relevant to them...i would hope one day that the same folks would be at peace with the people from that country

[one...two...tree 2,762]

It is true..allot of folks I grew up with ..had a bias towards Jews (and others) but were pro israel because of the scriptures...

understood..that their beliefs are relevant to them...i would hope one day that the same folks would be at peace with the people from that country

Add that to Graham's remarks and it makes it funny that those very Right minded 'pro-Israelists' will openly accuse any criticism towards Israel as anti-Semitic. Of course, these are the same folks who questioned people's patriotism for criticizing the Bush Administration's foreign policy. Double standard is no strange bedfellow to them.

[scandal 951]

It's all very well documented and not surprising.

We killed Christ.

We bake our Passover matzahs with the blood of Christian children.

The "Protocols of the Elders of Ziion" is real, and we are running an international conspiracy to control all the centers of power and capital.

We run Hollywood, Wall St., the Federal Reserve, the NY Times, Newsweek, ABC, CBS, NBC. It's a good thing FOX NEWS isn't controlled by us, otherwise there would be no "fair and balanced" media.

OK, sarcasm off.

Antisemitism today is not the overt and ugly thing it once was. There used to be quotas barring Jews from entry to universities, medical schools and legal practices. Ugly caricatures of Jews with hooked-noses and beady eyes used to be common in American press, not just in Nazi Germany. Those days - thankfully - are gone.

Today antisemitism takes two forms - the virulent hateful stuff that hides in shadoows or is found on websites like that of James von Brunn and in the literature of white supremacist groups. And the veiled form that hides behind genteel polite society. The kind seen here in Graham & Nixon, but also in occasional public comments by figures ranging from Jesse Jackson to Bob Jones.

Regarding Christian fundamentalists - well of course their support for Israel comes from a different center of gravity. That's understandable. The core of their belief is in salvation through Jesus. Anyone not accepting Jesus into their lives cannot be saved. Jews do not accept Jesus. So of course the Christian attitude towards a Jewish state of Israel is only a stepping stone to what they see as some final redemption in a Second Coming.

[almaty 19]

So of course the Christian attitude towards a Jewish state of Israel is only a stepping stone to what they see as some final redemption in a Second Coming.

true..and waiting for the second temple to be built..well, historically the 3rd temple to be built

Edited June 25, 2009 by almaty

[one...two...tree 2,762]

So of course the Christian attitude towards a Jewish state of Israel is only a stepping stone to what they see as some final redemption in a Second Coming.

true..and waiting for the second temple to be built..well, historically the 3rd temple to be built

Just like the smiling Casinos workers who are so happy to see you.

[one...two...tree 2,762]

It's all very well documented and not surprising.

We killed Christ.

We bake our Passover matzahs with the blood of Christian children.

The "Protocols of the Elders of Ziion" is real, and we are running an international conspiracy to control all the centers of power and capital.

We run Hollywood, Wall St., the Federal Reserve, the NY Times, Newsweek, ABC, CBS, NBC. It's a good thing FOX NEWS isn't controlled by us, otherwise there would be no "fair and balanced" media.

OK, sarcasm off.

Antisemitism today is not the overt and ugly thing it once was. There used to be quotas barring Jews from entry to universities, medical schools and legal practices. Ugly caricatures of Jews with hooked-noses and beady eyes used to be common in American press, not just in Nazi Germany. Those days - thankfully - are gone.

Today antisemitism takes two forms - the virulent hateful stuff that hides in shadoows or is found on websites like that of James von Brunn and in the literature of white supremacist groups. And the veiled form that hides behind genteel polite society. The kind seen here in Graham & Nixon, but also in occasional public comments by figures ranging from Jesse Jackson to Bob Jones.

Regarding Christian fundamentalists - well of course their support for Israel comes from a different center of gravity. That's understandable. The core of their belief is in salvation through Jesus. Anyone not accepting Jesus into their lives cannot be saved. Jews do not accept Jesus. So of course the Christian attitude towards a Jewish state of Israel is only a stepping stone to what they see as some final redemption in a Second Coming.

I'm semi-Catholic and I think Fundamentalists of all faiths are in for a big surprise at God's Banquet. They'll all be saying, "Who invited them?"

[almaty 19]

lol..i hope they have to sat next to the hare krishnas

[one...two...tree 2,762]

lol..i hope they have to sat next to the hare krishnas

Hey, those guys know how to party.

Edited June 25, 2009 by Col. 'Bat' Guano

[almaty 19]

lol...they sure look happy...

?

[one...two...tree 2,762]

lol...they sure look happy...

?

...their secret.

[Danno 1,228]

1973 conversation between President Nixon and evangelist Billy Graham about Jews, laden with critical references including a Biblical verse on the "synagogue of Satan," has put the aging, frail Graham back in unwelcome headlines.

The conversation is part of newly-released secretly recorded tapes from the Nixon presidency, from the U.S. National Archives in College Park, Md., and the Richard Nixon Presidential Library in Yorba Linda, Calif. A sampling of more than 150 hours of tape recordings and 30,000 pages of documents from two months in 1973 were made public Tuesday (download at Nixon.archives.gov/National Archives), culled from 4,000 hours of taped meetings and phone calls in a two-year period.

An earlier release of tapes in 2002 shocked fans of Graham, who is heard agreeing with Nixon as the president rails against liberal Jews' political activism and media clout. Graham tells Nixon how Jews befriend him but adds, "They don't know how I really feel about what they're doing to this country."

FAITH & REASON: What does 'synagogue of Satan' really mean?

On Wednesday, as he did in 2002, Graham's longtime spokesman A. Larry Ross said Graham has never been an anti-Semite and that the remarks should be understood in context, as part of a conversation with the president.

FIND MORE STORIES IN: Richard Nixon | Anti-Defamation League | Billy Graham | Golda Meir | Abraham Foxman | American Jewish Committee | National Archives and Records Administration

In 2002, Graham said he had no recollection of such remarks but apologized deeply for any offense they may have caused. Now, Graham, 90, and still mobile with a walker, is no longer doing media interviews, although he sent a message of greeting to a meeting of the Southern Baptist Convention, underway in Louisville.

The 1973 transcript is a wide-ranging conversation between Graham and Nixon in which Graham heaps praise on the president, telling him "Congratulations on everything," and "I believe the Lord is with you."

Nixon raises the news that Israel had mistakenly shot down a Libyan civilian airliner, killing all on board. Nixon says, "What I really think is, deep down in this country, there is a lot of anti-Semitism, and all this is going to do is stir it up."

Graham agrees that it will push anti-Semitism "right to the top." Then he turns the conversation to a report he read somewhere that Israel supposedly wants to "expel all the Christians." Graham mentions Jewish opposition to a Christian evangelical unified campaign, saying Jews are "going right after the church."

He also mentions an upcoming meeting with the interreligious affairs director of the American Jewish Committee, the late Rabbi Marc Tanenbaum. In 1977, the organization honored Graham, saying, according to Graham biographer William Martin, that "most of the progress of Protestant-Jewish relations over the past quarter century was due to Billy Graham."

In 1973, Graham calls Tanenbaum the "cleverest and most brilliant" of the rabbis.

Nixon mentions an upcoming dinner with Israeli Prime Minister Golda Meir, and Graham, who said in earlier taped conversations that Israelis were the best kind of Jews, now brings up a biblical reference to the dense and difficult final book of the Bible, Revelation, which says in verse 3:9 that there are those who claim to be Jews who are liars, and that they belong to a "synagogue of Satan."

This is a prophetic book by John the apostle who, like Christ, was Jewish.

Anti-Defamation League director Abraham Foxman on Wednesday blasted both Nixon and Graham, saying that, "while never expressing these views in public, Rev. Graham unabashedly held forth with the president with age-old classical anti-Semitic canards."

But Ross says the "synagogue of Satan" phrase in the Book of Revelation actually refers to anyone whose "lives and work are not in keeping with traditional Jewish values."

All those words yet I never got the quotes and certainly not in context?

Why not, I thought these were recorded conversations?

Oh.. I'm suppose to go by some book to see if it's really there.

With the headline you posted... you were at least obligated to deliver what you advertized.

Tsk Tsk tsk.