re NOA

[lisaf 0]

I was at DMV this morning, and they would not accept my NOA as proof of extension. They said I needed the biometrics letter and that this was only a "receipt"

However the first line states " your conditional resident status is extended for a period of one year. During this extension, etc. etc. etc"

I know there's no point pushing the point if they've made up their mind, should I just go to another DMV or were they correct?

Thanks guys.

[YuAndDan 153]

Did you apply for an unrestricted replacement SSN card after getting Green-card? Unrestriced SSN has NO "With DHS auth" Notation

Many state DMV will accept the UN-Restricted SSN card, along with other evidence of residency like mail to your address.

[Brother Hesekiel 2,236]

They are wrong. Keep in mind DMV people, for the most part, are drones, stupid as stupid goes. Ask to see a supervisor, better yet the director of that DMV, and tell him or her that you have been mistreated by an ignorant employee and would like that to be resolved right away.

Bring a written statement and have him or her sign that you requested action in your case. Make sure you know what you're talking about but be polite and look the part.

[lisaf 0]

Did you apply for an unrestricted replacement SSN card after getting Green-card? Unrestriced SSN has NO "With DHS auth" Notation

Many state DMV will accept the UN-Restricted SSN card, along with other evidence of residency like mail to your address.

Yes, I have an unrestricted SSN card.

[lisaf 0]

They are wrong. Keep in mind DMV people, for the most part, are drones, stupid as stupid goes. Ask to see a supervisor, better yet the director of that DMV, and tell him or her that you have been mistreated by an ignorant employee and would like that to be resolved right away.

Bring a written statement and have him or her sign that you requested action in your case. Make sure you know what you're talking about but be polite and look the part.

The girl was polite, she took it to her supervisor to check, and came back with" this is only a receipt...you need the one saying you have an appointment for finger prints etc..." Supervisor was locked away in a cave somewhere!

Think I'll just go to another one. I work in Manhattan so it's not difficult. I just wanted to know who was correct so I could push it further next time.

thanks!

[milesinfront 2]

I had a similar problem in Manhattan. The belligerent DMV employee who initially checked my documents was adamant that the extension letter was unacceptable, and as my 2 yr Green Card was "out of date" I could not be granted a NY lcense. He referred me to a supervisor, with the proviso "be prepared to be told exactly the same thing!"

The supervisor told me it WAS acceptable. My problem, however, was that the New Jersey DMV, in granting my previous license based on my 2 yr Green Card, had printed "temp imm. status" on my license, which prevented the NY DMV from granting me a NY license.

I therefore have to go back to NJ, get that removed from my license, go back to NY, and get a NY license.

A bit of customer service training at the DMV would not go amiss.

[lisaf 0]

I had a similar problem in Manhattan. The belligerent DMV employee who initially checked my documents was adamant that the extension letter was unacceptable, and as my 2 yr Green Card was "out of date" I could not be granted a NY lcense. He referred me to a supervisor, with the proviso "be prepared to be told exactly the same thing!"

The supervisor told me it WAS acceptable. My problem, however, was that the New Jersey DMV, in granting my previous license based on my 2 yr Green Card, had printed "temp imm. status" on my license, which prevented the NY DMV from granting me a NY license.

I therefore have to go back to NJ, get that removed from my license, go back to NY, and get a NY license.

A bit of customer service training at the DMV would not go amiss.

oh boy, were you at Herald Square??? and did you have your first extension letter or the one for biometrics??

The reason I went was that I had 3 days left on my cond Greencard and what I thought was the extension letter in hand. I hadn't been able to go before as my GC did not have 6 months left on it.....what a fustercluck!

[YuAndDan 153]

They are wrong. Keep in mind DMV people, for the most part, are drones, stupid as stupid goes. Ask to see a supervisor, better yet the director of that DMV, and tell him or her that you have been mistreated by an ignorant employee and would like that to be resolved right away.

Bring a written statement and have him or her sign that you requested action in your case. Make sure you know what you're talking about but be polite and look the part.

The girl was polite, she took it to her supervisor to check, and came back with" this is only a receipt...you need the one saying you have an appointment for finger prints etc..." Supervisor was locked away in a cave somewhere!

Think I'll just go to another one. I work in Manhattan so it's not difficult. I just wanted to know who was correct so I could push it further next time.

thanks!

You say Manahattan, is it a NY DL?

Are you renewing a NY DL?

If NY you need 6 points of identity'

NYS Photo Driver License /Learner Permit/Non-Driver ID Card. Must be current or not expired for more than 2 years. (6 POINTS)

http://www.nydmv.state.ny.us/forms/id44.pdf

If all you have is the expired I-551 card, and letter, and NO NY DL, then you may be out of luck, you may need to schedule an info pass appointment to USCIS bring the ID44 sheet from NY DMV showing that they only accept I-551, and request an I-551 stamp in passport.

[sophiadun 0]

There are lots of morons working at the DMV. They usually treats us with no respects. Long long ago, when I can get a DL with my student visa, the guy worked at the DMV typed my name in a wrong way, I pointed it out , he was mad and said he was right. It caused me millions of troubles later.

I was at DMV this morning, and they would not accept my NOA as proof of extension. They said I needed the biometrics letter and that this was only a "receipt"

However the first line states " your conditional resident status is extended for a period of one year. During this extension, etc. etc. etc"

I know there's no point pushing the point if they've made up their mind, should I just go to another DMV or were they correct?

Thanks guys.

[YuAndDan 153]

There are lots of morons working at the DMV. They usually treats us with no respects. Long long ago, when I can get a DL with my student visa, the guy worked at the DMV typed my name in a wrong way, I pointed it out , he was mad and said he was right. It caused me millions of troubles later.

I was at DMV this morning, and they would not accept my NOA as proof of extension. They said I needed the biometrics letter and that this was only a "receipt"

However the first line states " your conditional resident status is extended for a period of one year. During this extension, etc. etc. etc"

I know there's no point pushing the point if they've made up their mind, should I just go to another DMV or were they correct?

Thanks guys.

Keep in mind the DMV is a STATE department, it is NOT part of the US government, so requirements vary by state. NY as a specific set of requirements, they only accept a valid green-card or valid I-551 stamp in passport as proof of residence for a non citizen.

[lisaf 0]

You say Manahattan, is it a NY DL?

Are you renewing a NY DL?

If NY you need 6 points of identity'

NYS Photo Driver License /Learner Permit/Non-Driver ID Card. Must be current or not expired for more than 2 years. (6 POINTS)

http://www.nydmv.state.ny.us/forms/id44.pdf

I was actually going to get a learners permit.

I have plenty of stuff for the 6 points, but it states that the Greencard ( for use as proof of DOB as I can't use a foreign BC )must have 6 months validity on it, which is why I thought the extension letter should suffice?? A years extension is longer than 6 months? They weren't concerned with a stamp in my passport, ( didn't even ask for it)just said that only the biometrics notice served as an extension letter, not the original NOA - they called it a 'receipt' despite it saying on the first line that it is an extension of one year!

[YuAndDan 153]

You say Manahattan, is it a NY DL?

Are you renewing a NY DL?

If NY you need 6 points of identity'

NYS Photo Driver License /Learner Permit/Non-Driver ID Card. Must be current or not expired for more than 2 years. (6 POINTS)

http://www.nydmv.state.ny.us/forms/id44.pdf

I was actually going to get a learners permit.

I have plenty of stuff for the 6 points, but it states that the Greencard ( for use as proof of DOB as I can't use a foreign BC )must have 6 months validity on it, which is why I thought the extension letter should suffice?? A years extension is longer than 6 months? They weren't concerned with a stamp in my passport, ( didn't even ask for it)just said that only the biometrics notice served as an extension letter, not the original NOA - they called it a 'receipt' despite it saying on the first line that it is an extension of one year!

The extension letter is not one of the things listed on the ID44 from the NY DMV.

Why did you not apply for a permit BEFORE your green-card expired? You had at least 2 years to get it.

When my wife got her green-card we went to the NY DMV and applied for a permit, the permit is valid until 2011 long after the 2 year green-card expires, and even after green-card expires, and she finally passes the road test, the permit is still worth 6 points to get actual driver's license.

[lisaf 0]

The extension letter is not one of the things listed on the ID44 from the NY DMV.

no, but a valid green card is, the question is ,does the extension not make my GC valid?

Why did you not apply for a permit BEFORE your green-card expired?

umm he drives a tank which I wouldn't go near.... no money for a second car ...or lessons at the time (despite the fact I've been driving 24 years, I have to have them anyway) as one salary and my temp job didn't leave room for anything else back then.. times have changed..

You had at least 2 years to get it.

actually I had 1.5 years as I needed 6 months validity on the GC to use it! I would ahve liked to go 6 months before now, but couldn't . The why doesn't really matter..I'm just trying to ascertain if the extension letter I have is valid when they tell me I need a biometrics letter...thats all. If they must have a biometrics letter I'll go back in a couple of weeks or whenever... no biggie. Or as you say, get a passport stamp and use my passport instead of the GC as DOB proof.

[Ree 9]

Are you renewing a NY DL?

If NY you need 6 points of identity'

NYS Photo Driver License /Learner Permit/Non-Driver ID Card. Must be current or not expired for more than 2 years. (6 POINTS)

http://www.nydmv.state.ny.us/forms/id44.pdf

If all you have is the expired I-551 card, and letter, and NO NY DL, then you may be out of luck, you may need to schedule an info pass appointment to USCIS bring the ID44 sheet from NY DMV showing that they only accept I-551, and request an I-551 stamp in passport.

Yes, yes, and yes. I moved to NYS last year, I was not able to get NYS DL until I got stamp in my passport.

When I tried to get a DL with my expired green card and extension letter, people in DMV office told me they couldn't accept them because the card is expired, and the letter doesn't have my photo and date of birth and it is only a receipt. They recommended me to come back when I have an actual card or at least an approval letter. At the time when waiting for an approval at VSC took about a year, it didn't sound right.