Change of Status of K1 due to violence

[Susita 175]

Quick tidbit of information -

K1 is a fiancee visa.

When someone is your fiancee, it's supposed that a marriage proposition was made and a 'yes' response actually came out of it. (like for real)

The last time I checked, that meant that those 2 people were actually going to get married. I don't have any friends that were like - yeah we're on a 90 day trial run.

No offense but that sounds so dumb and I don't know how that could be justified in anyone's brain.

[baron555 934]

Listen. I did not say that. But if you file for a fiancee visa, you should be ready to get married. That's what the visa is for - the only reason it exists. Not ready? Don't propose. K-1 visas are NOT a "let's shack up for 3 months and see if we like it" visa. It is pretty damn simple.

I don't disagree with this statement, but please, do not make it so strict. We are humans. Only for that sole reason (being humans), we make mistakes. People are allowed to change their minds ...

... however, I hope that nobody gets away with breaking the rules.

Seems to me some folks do not place that much importance on the subject of Marriage. Yes there will be rocky times, but if both are truly committed to the marriage, they will work it out. The weak will just punch out of the situation and shouldn't have been married in the first place.

[AngelnSteve 0]

Hi, YKJ - it's been known for some "harshness" to occur here - but I don't think any post in this thread fits into that category.. the beneficiary has said she does not wish to marry the petitioner for some extremely poor excuse (this in itself is fine - she is not being forced to marry the guy and it's good for the petitioner to find out ahead of time that their relationship is built on butter), so she needs to leave.

But now she's seeking some loophole to remain and considering marrying the poor guy under false pretences - that's just plain bad and I don't think any of us have sympathy for someone who's essentially considering abusing the trust and good faith of an innocent.

[clueless_in_usa 8]

Seems to me some folks do not place that much importance on the subject of Marriage. Yes there will be rocky times, but if both are truly committed to the marriage, they will work it out. The weak will just punch out of the situation and shouldn't have been married in the first place.

It is interesting to read how many people are so perfect that they never make a mistake ...

... if it was so easy, the divorce rate would not be over 50%, in most countries around the world. Some people are better off not married to each other, even though they may have thought otherwise at the beginning of the relationship... and even after the relationship ended.

Count yourself as a blessed person if you stay "happily" married forever. Unfortunately it does not work out like that for over 50% of the population, no matter how mature, strong, etc. they are.

Oh no! I get it now: my parents were weak people. Thanks for helping me understand what I never understood until today.

[JimVaPhuong 4,863]

Seems to me some folks do not place that much importance on the subject of Marriage. Yes there will be rocky times, but if both are truly committed to the marriage, they will work it out. The weak will just punch out of the situation and shouldn't have been married in the first place.

It is interesting to read how many people are so perfect that they never make a mistake ...

... if it was so easy, the divorce rate would not be over 50%, in most countries around the world. Some people are better off not married to each other, even though they may have thought otherwise at the beginning of the relationship... and even after the relationship ended.

Count yourself as a blessed person if you stay "happily" married forever. Unfortunately it does not work out like that for over 50% of the population, no matter how mature, strong, etc. they are.

Oh no! I get it now: my parents were weak people. Thanks for helping me understand what I never understood until today.

For pete's sake, nobody is saying that people don't make mistakes. Nobody is saying that people don't change their minds. What they're saying is that you can't change your mind about a commitment, but still insist on the benefits that would have been derived from that commitment.

"Excuse me, Mr. Car Salesman - I've changed my mind about paying for your car, but I still want you to give me the car."

The OP's friend is entitled to change her mind, and not marry her fiance. She's NOT entitled to stay in the US and get a green card, and if she's considering marrying him for the documents then she's a fraud, and has been a fraud from the beginning.

[Aniomaman 0]

Seems to me some folks do not place that much importance on the subject of Marriage. Yes there will be rocky times, but if both are truly committed to the marriage, they will work it out. The weak will just punch out of the situation and shouldn't have been married in the first place.

It is interesting to read how many people are so perfect that they never make a mistake ...

... if it was so easy, the divorce rate would not be over 50%, in most countries around the world. Some people are better off not married to each other, even though they may have thought otherwise at the beginning of the relationship... and even after the relationship ended.

Count yourself as a blessed person if you stay "happily" married forever. Unfortunately it does not work out like that for over 50% of the population, no matter how mature, strong, etc. they are.

Oh no! I get it now: my parents were weak people. Thanks for helping me understand what I never understood until today.

I really don't see your point! What a lot of replies on here are saying is simple - GO HOME SINCE YOU NO LONGER WANT TO MARRY THE PETITIONER! How hard can that be? I guess you would like the petitioner to join the 50% divorce rate when she has gotten her greencard. It's so good she found out early she no longer wants to marry someone she claimed to love before she came but why would she want to find ways around the immigration system to stay behind? That reeks of FRAUD!

[Ban Hammer 13,491]

LOL Im a newbie here but forgive me if I say some of you guys are rather HARSH....

However you have all stated the truth, there is no other way... Have the friend go back and maybe try to play the lotto (Diversity Visa) aka DV... maybe she will win

brazil isn't eligible in the diversity visa.

[clueless_in_usa 8]

Seems to me some folks do not place that much importance on the subject of Marriage. Yes there will be rocky times, but if both are truly committed to the marriage, they will work it out. The weak will just punch out of the situation and shouldn't have been married in the first place.

It is interesting to read how many people are so perfect that they never make a mistake ...

... if it was so easy, the divorce rate would not be over 50%, in most countries around the world. Some people are better off not married to each other, even though they may have thought otherwise at the beginning of the relationship... and even after the relationship ended.

Count yourself as a blessed person if you stay "happily" married forever. Unfortunately it does not work out like that for over 50% of the population, no matter how mature, strong, etc. they are.

Oh no! I get it now: my parents were weak people. Thanks for helping me understand what I never understood until today.

I really don't see your point! What a lot of replies on here are saying is simple - GO HOME SINCE YOU NO LONGER WANT TO MARRY THE PETITIONER! How hard can that be? I guess you would like the petitioner to join the 50% divorce rate when she has gotten her greencard. It's so good she found out early she no longer wants to marry someone she claimed to love before she came but why would she want to find ways around the immigration system to stay behind? That reeks of FRAUD!

I already agreed about following the rules of the K-1 visa. It has been said multiple times, so I do not need to say it again. I was responding only to the above poster because s/he qualifies people who don't stay married forever as WEAK who should have never been married. Following that logic, I should have never been born ... the world should have only perfect people like him/her who have perfect families and are STRONG (like him/her) to have perfect marriages too, because the WEAK should never be married.

Edited June 24, 2009 by clueless_in_usa

[Kanja 202]

If Brazil doesnt qualify for the diversity visa then the woman is definitely out of luck

[Aniomaman 0]

I have been seeing too many change of hearts in the past few days and somehow they all seem to still want to stay, taking the mickey!

[BishopMnA 0]

I thought the K-1 was also a 'lets live together so we could see if we're meant to be, before we marry" kinda visa?

Ya....I thought the 90 days was so you could see if she is as purty in real-life as her picture/skype?

Way too much of this...

Peace,

MarkNAAm

[daboyz 36]

Why even have a K-1 visa? Why not make the USC spouse marry in the foreigner's country?

[Chica Yeyé 41]

Why even have a K-1 visa? Why not make the USC spouse marry in the foreigner's country?

They can do that; and some do and go the K-3 or the CR-1 route.

[JimVaPhuong 4,863]

Why even have a K-1 visa? Why not make the USC spouse marry in the foreigner's country?

I think the US government wants to give the US citizen the opportunity to marry in the United States, and have their own family involved in the marriage. If they didn't have the K1 visa then people would complain it wasn't fair that a US citizen has to fly their family across the globe for a marriage when the married couple are going to live in the US anyway.

It's also very difficult for a US citizen to marry a local citizen in some countries. Foreign governments sometimes set up a seemingly endless series of hurdles the couple has to overcome before they can be married, often with a substantial fee involved at each stage.

[daboyz 36]

I guess my point is, it would do away with people using the K-1 for a "getting to know you" visa.

I know some countries are a pain to get married in. I think India and Vietnam are two of these. I have read it takes at least 3 weeks in both countries. So not sure what to say about that. I wonder what people did before the Life Act of 2000?