Welcome To The Dark Side Of Illegal Immigration

[scandal 951]

mods: can we get a list of the 'member name' threads so we can make a poll & vote for who has the longest thread?

cmon..it would be fun & i'm sure noone on the list would mind.

i could be a contender!

oh yah. you're in the top 5 i'm sure.

I think the mawilson thread got some action last night... http://www.visajourney.com/forums/index.ph...t&p=3057821

Haven't see JAS around much recently either

mawilson got some action last night?

Where have u been??? Follow the link I posted.

He got in trouble with Filipinas, ugly people, prostitutes, mods, and Ewok all in a single post. Not bad for a night's work!

[Ban Hammer 13,349]

mods: can we get a list of the 'member name' threads so we can make a poll & vote for who has the longest thread?

cmon..it would be fun & i'm sure noone on the list would mind.

i could be a contender!

oh yah. you're in the top 5 i'm sure.

I think the mawilson thread got some action last night... http://www.visajourney.com/forums/index.ph...t&p=3057821

Haven't see JAS around much recently either

mawilson got some action last night?

Where have u been??? Follow the link I posted.

He got in trouble with Filipinas, ugly people, prostitutes, mods, and Ewok all in a single post. Not bad for a night's work!

does that count as multitasking?

[natty bumppo 297]

mods: can we get a list of the 'member name' threads so we can make a poll & vote for who has the longest thread?

cmon..it would be fun & i'm sure noone on the list would mind.

i could be a contender!

oh yah. you're in the top 5 i'm sure.

I think the mawilson thread got some action last night... http://www.visajourney.com/forums/index.ph...t&p=3057821

Haven't see JAS around much recently either

mawilson got some action last night?

Where have u been??? Follow the link I posted.

He got in trouble with Filipinas, ugly people, prostitutes, mods, and Ewok all in a single post. Not bad for a night's work!

does that count as multitasking?

a gangbang maybe?

[Sofiyya 1,687]

Mark was a busy guy.

Back to the topic. Why can't someone be against illegal immigration and illegal aliens without being called a racist? Is it that the pro-illegals have no support for lawbreaking other than attempting not to appear racist themselves? I know that's kind of circular, but if someone thinks it's racist to oppose illegals, they would try to avoid being called racist by taking the untenable position of excusing illegality for some, but not for all, based on skin color.

[Sofiyya 1,687]

1000 pardons, but you do read what she writes? Correct?

Why are some allowed to incite, repeatedly, while those who react are warned? Very, honestly, confused...

Because there is a line between a direct personal insult and just blathering on at the mouth. (And, no, that is not a veiled attempt to insinuate that some are just blathering. Though, clearly, some do. It is just my way of providing a definition.)

Oh, and just because you may not read a warning in a topic, it does not mean that nothing is being done behind the scenes.

I certainly wasn't doing any inciting, and I wasn't punished, since I wasn't doing anything wrong. I'm just sick and tired of people who want immigration laws enforced and coddling of illegals to stop so that there is fairness in immigration being called racist; like, to be pc, you have to support lawbreaking by "brown people". We're talking about illegals, and I don't see people here on VJ wanting immigratin to cease based on race. Calling someone a racist just to get them to shut up about illegals is antagonistic, pure and simple, and I wasn't the one doing it.

[Kathryn41 3,205]

Inappropriate post has been removed. This thread is getting dangerously close to being closed. Conduct yourselves accordingly

[panamania79 2]

Mark was a busy guy.

Back to the topic. Why can't someone be against illegal immigration and illegal aliens without being called a racist? Is it that the pro-illegals have no support for lawbreaking other than attempting not to appear racist themselves? I know that's kind of circular, but if someone thinks it's racist to oppose illegals, they would try to avoid being called racist by taking the untenable position of excusing illegality for some, but not for all, based on skin color.

I have seen this on several occasions myself.Anytime an illegal doesn't get their own way,they start calling everybody a racist.It's like an automatic defense mechanism.I find this very annoying !

[Sofiyya 1,687]

Mark was a busy guy.

Back to the topic. Why can't someone be against illegal immigration and illegal aliens without being called a racist? Is it that the pro-illegals have no support for lawbreaking other than attempting not to appear racist themselves? I know that's kind of circular, but if someone thinks it's racist to oppose illegals, they would try to avoid being called racist by taking the untenable position of excusing illegality for some, but not for all, based on skin color.

I have seen this on several occasions myself.Anytime an illegal doesn't get their own way,they start calling everybody a racist.It's like an automatic defense mechanism.I find this very annoying !

It works waaaay too often. That's why they do it. If it didn't work they would have to find another tactic. The guilt of a few make all of us targets.

[Ban Hammer 13,349]

Mark was a busy guy.

Back to the topic. Why can't someone be against illegal immigration and illegal aliens without being called a racist? Is it that the pro-illegals have no support for lawbreaking other than attempting not to appear racist themselves? I know that's kind of circular, but if someone thinks it's racist to oppose illegals, they would try to avoid being called racist by taking the untenable position of excusing illegality for some, but not for all, based on skin color.

I have seen this on several occasions myself.Anytime an illegal doesn't get their own way,they start calling everybody a racist.It's like an automatic defense mechanism.I find this very annoying !

and what's really silly, some fall for it or even buy into that rhetoric too.

[HAL 9000 96]

Dang libruls.

[panamania79 2]

Mark was a busy guy.

Back to the topic. Why can't someone be against illegal immigration and illegal aliens without being called a racist? Is it that the pro-illegals have no support for lawbreaking other than attempting not to appear racist themselves? I know that's kind of circular, but if someone thinks it's racist to oppose illegals, they would try to avoid being called racist by taking the untenable position of excusing illegality for some, but not for all, based on skin color.

I have seen this on several occasions myself.Anytime an illegal doesn't get their own way,they start calling everybody a racist.It's like an automatic defense mechanism.I find this very annoying !

and what's really silly, some fall for it or even buy into that rhetoric too.

Dang libruls.

I guess I'm the only librul who isn't fooled by them.

[Sofiyya 1,687]

Mark was a busy guy.

Back to the topic. Why can't someone be against illegal immigration and illegal aliens without being called a racist? Is it that the pro-illegals have no support for lawbreaking other than attempting not to appear racist themselves? I know that's kind of circular, but if someone thinks it's racist to oppose illegals, they would try to avoid being called racist by taking the untenable position of excusing illegality for some, but not for all, based on skin color.

I have seen this on several occasions myself.Anytime an illegal doesn't get their own way,they start calling everybody a racist.It's like an automatic defense mechanism.I find this very annoying !

and what's really silly, some fall for it or even buy into that rhetoric too.

Dang libruls.

I guess I'm the only librul who isn't fooled by them.

Good for you!

[ready4ONE 5,400]

Nast Anti Irish cartoon, 1854

Edited June 25, 2009 by ready4ONE

[Sofiyya 1,687]

Irish immigrants were non-White when they first came, too. It wasn't uncommon for them to be barred from establishments by signs saying "Dogs and Irishmen not welcome". Like many other immigrant groups, they attained their elite "White" status by discriminating against the Blacks they once lived with, married, and worked along side of as they struggled to climb the social ladder.

It's not enough to try to juxtapose opposition to illegals with past racism, as you insist on doing. You also need to understand the route disfavored immigrant groups took to overcome discrimination agaist them. In the case of the Irish, like so many others, they rose by turning on those who had aided them early on. Among lower class Latinos, there are those who are already waging war against Blacks in working class neighborhoods all over the US. They are trying to raise their status on the backs of lower class Blacks, as well.

Still, none of this is analygous to opposing ILLEGAL immigrants who violate our laws to get here and remain here. Please try to remember there is a distinction.

Nast Anti Irish cartoon, 1854

Edited June 25, 2009 by Sofiyya

[mawilson 2,133]

Much of that debt has been caused by lenient treatment and coddling of illegals, with taxpayers forced to pay for their education, welfare, and health care.

Not that much. We have 10 million illegals and a trillion-dollar deficit.

I'm sorry to disappoint you, but we don't spend $100,000 per illegal.

No disappointment since your premise is in error. We have no idea how many illegals are here, but 10 million is prbably a very low estimate. Besides, our problems with illegals have existed far longer than the current deficit. The coddling, and taking of taxpayer dollars as been going on for decades. The damage to society has been incremental and cumulative.

If we have no idea how many illegals are here, we also have no idea how much of our national debt

is directly attributable to their education and welfare.