Welcome To The Dark Side Of Illegal Immigration

[ready4ONE 5,400]

Understood. Thanks krikit.

[SMOKE 1,426]

Oh, and just because you may not read a warning in a topic, it does not mean that nothing is being done behind the scenes.

how many pages long is the 'SMOKE' thread in the mod forum?

[Krikit 1,164]

how many pages long is the 'SMOKE' thread in the mod forum?

[Ban Hammer 13,342]

Oh, and just because you may not read a warning in a topic, it does not mean that nothing is being done behind the scenes.

how many pages long is the 'SMOKE' thread in the mod forum?

it's smokin!

and nowhere near as long as the aj or mawilson one.

[scandal 951]

Oh, and just because you may not read a warning in a topic, it does not mean that nothing is being done behind the scenes.

how many pages long is the 'SMOKE' thread in the mod forum?

it's smokin!

and nowhere near as long as the aj or mawilson one.

I can think of a few others

[Danno 1,228]

Immigrants have forever been 'about to destroy America.' This is not new, it is an old theme, and the results continue to discredit those who espouse them. Much as there has been, throughout history, the ongoing theme of 'the next generation will destroy us.' Also with the results being the opposite.

I am no fan of illegal immigration, but in the long run, America will be fine. I for one choose to ignore the current 'brown scare' tactics.

When you claim "Immigrants have forever been 'about to destroy America.".. you suggest, we keep importing huge numbers of people and ... it has worked out just fine, the truth is this surge started in the late 60's and continues to explode.

The truth is the "great wave" of immigration came to a sudden end for a reason.

I would suggest if it had not, this country would not be recognizable today.

Our mass Immigration is wrong on many fronts, this importing of low-no skilled workers ensures the continued drain on America and the working class......and the, Importing of Educated persons from many third world countries has left a devastating hole there, the very people they need to help lift their country up.. are bailing out and coming here, ensuring the poverty and deplorable conditions back home.

Let me ask you this question; In your mind, is there a limit on how many immigrants we can successfully immigrate?

When you claim "Immigrants have forever been 'about to destroy America.".. you suggest, we keep importing huge numbers of people and ... it has worked out just fine, the truth is this surge started in the late 60's and continues to explode.

I wasn't making the claim immigrants have forever been 'about to destroy America.' I was pointing out that throughout American history there have been such assertions made about each large new group of immigrants. This was true for the Irish, the Germans, Russians, Chinese, Vietnamese, so on and so on to the current Hispanic groups.

The truth is the "great wave" of immigration came to a sudden end for a reason.

I would suggest if it had not, this country would not be recognizable today.

You say that "this surge" and I am guessing you mean hispanic immigration[?] started in the 1960's? Your own chart fails to indicate that little factoid. But even if we assume [and I don't] your made up fun fact was a fact, then how has America been ruined? How is America unrecognizable from the America of the 1960's due to immigration?

The only response you will give is to parrot just a shooter's made up fun facts. Or arguments which may be somewhat less obviously racist than our great great grandparents time, where the Irish were depicted as monkey's and Negroes were plainly considered ignorant, but none the less parralel the earlier arguments against the immigration of the aformentioned incoming immigrant groups.

The historical reality is something you can and should research. Throughout American history, each successive waive of immigrant groups has been subject to the same dire claims you now make about Hispanic immigrants legal or otherwise. History has shown such claims as:

Our mass Immigration is wrong on many fronts, this importing of low-no skilled workers ensures the continued drain on America and the working class...

is a historical cliche. Read your history, you will see this claim made again and again about the Irish, the Germans, Russians, Chinese, Vietnamese etc. Then wake up, smell the coffee, and realize over time even the most isolated immigrants have tended to not only assimilate, but also turned into positive assets for this country in terms of creativity, diversity, creation of wealth, the list goes on and on regarding immigrant success and thier contributions to the fabric of our society.

...and the, Importing of Educated persons from many third world countries has left a devastating hole there, the very people they need to help lift their country up.. are bailing out and coming here, ensuring the poverty and deplorable conditions back home.

Made up fun fact not worthy of a response...

Let me ask you this question; In your mind, is there a limit on how many immigrants we can successfully immigrate?

There is no magic number, over which we fall, under which we won't have enough immigrants.

Going back to your chart, if there are over 300,000,000 people in the USA and we are allowing just under 1 million immigrants a year, that is a 1 to 300 ratio. Whereas in 1900 to 1915 the population was around 76,000,000 and we were taking in nearly a million immigrants a year a 1 to 76 ratio, a far larger proportionately yet we survived... Of course good folks such as yourself also predicted doom back then...

While I do admire the at-length reply you made, you talked about everything but the main question.

I will blame myself for that, perhaps I didn't make it clear so let me try again.

Looking at the chart below.... if all was well with the "great wave" (100 yrs ago), why the need to suddenly cut it off for ....oh the next half century? (until 1966)

What were the negative effects of those fifty years without mass immigration?

[EstebanTrabajos 7]

and when everybody thought this thread would finally die...

troll troll troll troll

[Danno 1,228]

and when everybody thought this thread would finally die...

troll troll troll troll

When you say "Everybody".... is there any chance you might be speaking with a little presumption?

[EstebanTrabajos 7]

I don't knowwwwww maybe

[SMOKE 1,426]

Oh, and just because you may not read a warning in a topic, it does not mean that nothing is being done behind the scenes.

how many pages long is the 'SMOKE' thread in the mod forum?

it's smokin!

and nowhere near as long as the aj or mawilson one.

I can think of a few others

good idea!

mods: can we get a list of the 'member name' threads so we can make a poll & vote for who has the longest thread?

cmon..it would be fun & i'm sure noone on the list would mind.

[Ban Hammer 13,342]

Oh, and just because you may not read a warning in a topic, it does not mean that nothing is being done behind the scenes.

how many pages long is the 'SMOKE' thread in the mod forum?

it's smokin!

and nowhere near as long as the aj or mawilson one.

I can think of a few others

good idea!

mods: can we get a list of the 'member name' threads so we can make a poll & vote for who has the longest thread?

cmon..it would be fun & i'm sure noone on the list would mind.

i could be a contender!

[SMOKE 1,426]

mods: can we get a list of the 'member name' threads so we can make a poll & vote for who has the longest thread?

cmon..it would be fun & i'm sure noone on the list would mind.

i could be a contender!

oh yah. you're in the top 5 i'm sure.

[scandal 951]

mods: can we get a list of the 'member name' threads so we can make a poll & vote for who has the longest thread?

cmon..it would be fun & i'm sure noone on the list would mind.

i could be a contender!

oh yah. you're in the top 5 i'm sure.

I think the mawilson thread got some action last night... http://www.visajourney.com/forums/index.ph...t&p=3057821

Haven't see JAS around much recently either

Edited June 24, 2009 by scandal

[panamania79 2]

If you believe, as many do, that America is too smug, too white bread, too self-satisfied, too rich, lets destroy America.

but i prefer wheat!

What about Pumpernickle ?

[natty bumppo 297]

mods: can we get a list of the 'member name' threads so we can make a poll & vote for who has the longest thread?

cmon..it would be fun & i'm sure noone on the list would mind.

i could be a contender!

oh yah. you're in the top 5 i'm sure.

I think the mawilson thread got some action last night... http://www.visajourney.com/forums/index.ph...t&p=3057821

Haven't see JAS around much recently either

mawilson got some action last night?