Welcome To The Dark Side Of Illegal Immigration

[EstebanTrabajos 7]

yeah right

[mawilson 2,133]

Its not important. I just find it silly - as I said.

Shooter was the one who claimed that "90% of the people on the most wanted list are illegals".

I made no such claim. I only said that it was not unreasonable to assume - statistically

speaking - that most of them are, in fact, Mexican, since 85% of them have Hispanic names.

I have no idea what their legal status is and neither does he.

[Amby 490]

yeah right

You would have loved it, I was being mean to Mark

[The_Dude 1,142]

Its not important. I just find it silly - as I said.

Shooter was the one who claimed that "90% of the people on the most wanted list are illegals".

I made no such claim. I only said that it was not unreasonable to assume - statistically

speaking - that most of them are, in fact, Mexican, since 85% of them have Hispanic names.

I have no idea what their legal status is and neither does he.

Since when have facts or reason ever stood in shooter's way?

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Well he did volunteer himself for some cotton plantation work the other day

[scandal 951]

Wrong.

Most Hispanics in the US are Americans born in the US.

If you sample a random group of Hispanics, most ot them will be American citizens - either born here or naturalized here.

Again, Mexicans are the largest Hispanic group in the US.

If you sample a random group of Hispanic illegals, most of them will be Mexican illegals.

If you sample a random group of Hispanic persons who are US citizens, most of them will be Mexican-Americans.

As of 2006 US Census data,

There were 43,168,000 Hispanics in the United States.

Of those, 25,933,000 (60.1%) were native-born in the United States.

17,234,000 (39.9) were foreign born.

Hence, the bold statement above is wrong. Mexicans are not the largest Hispanic group in the US. Native-born Americans (60.1%) are the largest Hispanic group in the US.

The bottom two statements may be true. They do not derive from your first statement, which is factually false. You have not backed up your bottom two statements with any data. I tend to agree that you are right that the majority of illegal Hispanics in the US do come from Mexico, that is my understanding as well.

Regarding your last statement define "Mexican-American". Hold dual citizenship? Have Mexican ancestry, or other cultural attachment?

Besides --- if they are US citizens, what difference does their hyphenated state make? I'm a hyphenated American. BFG.

http://www.census.gov/population/socdemo/h...2006_tab7.1.xls

Table 7.1 Nativity by Sex, Hispanic Origin, and Race: 2006

(Numbers in thousands. Civilian noninstitutionalized population. 1/)

Sex and nativity 2/ Total Hispanic origin and race 3/

Hispanic Non-Hispanic, White alone Non-Hispanic, all other races

Number Percent Number Percent Number Percent Number Percent

Total 293,834 100.0 43,168 100.0 195,893 100.0 54,774 100.0

.Native 258,175 87.9 25,933 60.1 188,311 96.1 43,931 80.2

.Foreign Born 35,659 12.1 17,234 39.9 7,582 3.9 10,843 19.8

Male 144,188 100.0 22,182 100.0 96,072 100.0 25,933 100.0

.Native 126,177 87.5 12,914 58.2 92,498 96.3 20,766 80.1

.Foreign Born 18,010 12.5 9,268 41.8 3,574 3.7 5,167 19.9

Female 149,647 100.0 20,986 100.0 99,821 100.0 28,841 100.0

.Native 131,998 88.2 13,020 62.0 95,813 96.0 23,165 80.3

.Foreign Born 17,649 11.8 7,966 38.0 4,007 4.0 5,676 19.7

[justashooter 430]

Its not important. I just find it silly - as I said.

Shooter was the one who claimed that "90% of the people on the most wanted list are illegals".

I made no such claim. I only said that it was not unreasonable to assume - statistically

speaking - that most of them are, in fact, Mexican, since 85% of them have Hispanic names.

I have no idea what their legal status is and neither does he.

the stat is from an FBI uniform crime statistics report that i quoted here months ago. do a search and you will find it.

[EstebanTrabajos 7]

yeah right

You would have loved it, I was being mean to Mark

the f...is Mark?

ohhh Boo's boyfriend?

[scandal 951]

Its not important. I just find it silly - as I said.

Shooter was the one who claimed that "90% of the people on the most wanted list are illegals".

I made no such claim. I only said that it was not unreasonable to assume - statistically

speaking - that most of them are, in fact, Mexican, since 85% of them have Hispanic names.

I have no idea what their legal status is and neither does he.

the stat is from an FBI uniform crime statistics report that i quoted here months ago. do a search and you will find it.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

i quoted here months ago. do a search and you will find it.

Look into my eyes, look into my eyes, the eyes, the eyes, not around the eyes, don't look around the eyes, look into my eyes. [click] You're under!

[EstebanTrabajos 7]

his imaginary FBI friend told him!

shhhhh top secret info disclosed for your eyes only, the guy has connections deep inside the homeland security intelligence network

[justashooter 430]

If you read the link you will see:

"non-U.S. citizens made up 9.0 percent of their total jail population in 2008"

Maybe you can reciprocate and point me to the FBI link you are referring to.

prisoners identified as illegal are often removed from local and state jails to federal detention. my comment was to the effect that 30% of prisoners in federal jails were illegals.

we also know that about 78% of all illegals in the US are mexican (stats i posted more than a month ago) and that other hispanics make up about 9% of illegals.

search my post history and you will find the links.

[The_Dude 1,142]

If you read the link you will see:

"non-U.S. citizens made up 9.0 percent of their total jail population in 2008"

Maybe you can reciprocate and point me to the FBI link you are referring to.

prisoners identified as illegal are often removed from local and state jails to federal detention. my comment was to the effect that 30% of prisoners in federal jails were illegals.

we also know that about 78% of all illegals in the US are mexican (stats i posted more than a month ago) and that other hispanics make up about 9% of illegals.

search my post history and you will find the links.

Quit being lazy and asking people to make your point for you. Do you're own research.

[mawilson 2,133]

As of 2006 US Census data,

There were 43,168,000 Hispanics in the United States.

Of those, 25,933,000 (60.1%) were native-born in the United States.

17,234,000 (39.9) were foreign born.

Hence, the bold statement above is wrong. Mexicans are not the largest Hispanic group in the US. Native-born Americans (60.1%) are the largest Hispanic group in the US.

Now you're just nitpicking. Native-born Americans can be of Mexican descent, no?

[Krikit 1,164]

prisoners identified as illegal are often removed from local and state jails to federal detention. my comment was to the effect that 30% of prisoners in federal jails were illegals.

we also know that about 78% of all illegals in the US are mexican (stats i posted more than a month ago) and that other hispanics make up about 9% of illegals.

search my post history and you will find the links.

• There were 201,142 prisoners under Federal custody at midyear 2008.
• There were 28,995 non-U.S. citizens under both State and Federal custody at midyear 2008.
• Even if 100% of those non-U.S. citizens were in the Federal system, that still only accounts for 14% of the total population.

Let's look at it from another perspective:

• 20% of the entire combined State and Federal prison population is of Hispanic or Latino origin.
• If, as you say, 78% of the non-U.S. citizens are Mexican illegals, then that accounts for 11% of the total Federal prison population..... provided 100% of that population is in Federal prison.... which they are not.

Still doesn't add up to 30%.

Source

Anywhoo.... off to enjoy my day.