Welcome To The Dark Side Of Illegal Immigration

[justashooter 430]

"In the first place, we should insist that if the immigrant who comes here in good faith becomes an American and assimilates himself to us, he shall be treated on an exact equality with everyone else, for it is an outrage to discriminate against any such man because of creed, or birthplace, or origin. But this is predicated upon the person's becoming in every facet an American, and nothing but an American. There can be no divided allegiance here. Any man who says he is an American, but something else also, isn't an American at all. We have room for but one flag, the American flag. We have room for but one language here, and that is the English language. And we have room for but one sole loyalty and that is a loyalty to the American people."

President Teddy Roosevelt – 1907

[almaty 19]

i'm not against foreigners. just foreigners that don't respect and accept America the way she is

i am a us citizen and do not accpet america s the way it is or has been/.///i guess, i need to be sent to a reeducation camp

fine. you can come to the "justashooter re-education camp" and sleep in the barn when you're not busy working in the fields or cleaning the chickenhouse. on sundays i'll teach you a learning of history and corrected ways of thinking. no charge.

lol

i did my share of bullshit for this country...while in the army..i will pass and just shoot a hippie instead

[Staashi 371]

Why is the plan to destroy America being implemented?

Why are you destroying America by bringing your foreign fiancee here?

Don't we have enough foreigners here already?

Awwww, Mawilson, you're my hero. I had the exact same thought my friend.

You know, if you're so against what I perceive to be as miscegenation in the USA, why are you importing your bride? Furthermore, if you aren't in agreement with how things are in the US today, I'm absolutely sure that we could find someone to take your place who would like to be a fine, upstanding American.

my wife has been here legally for a few years, has a green card, speaks english, accepts American culture enthusiastically while retaining hers, has a job, pays taxes, doesn't commit crime, etc. when i came home from china, she came with me.

i'm not against foreigners. just foreigners that don't respect and accept America the way she is, and don't comply with our legal system. can you argue with those principles?

The ironic thing is this...America was already multiculturally diverse because of "America's" own doing...the Southwest portion of the US has always had Mexicans in it, because at one point it actually belonged to fvcking MEXICO! So we fought a war, big deal...it was still Mexico. You think the names of the SW are in Spanish because some white men discovered it? Ummmmm, no. Those names came from the Mexicans who inhabited those areas and named them based on the characteristics of the geography. Arizona - arid desert, California - hot, Nevada - snow, Montana - mountainous, I can go on and on citing Spanish-named cities and towns.

Furthermore, Americans imported slaves, and when we freed them we had a whole new black population to count...so there was a new race here. And last I checked, this whole land belonged to the native american indians, so they're the first ones who were here, thus, the white man began the process of bringing multiculturalism to this country.

And your wife, she'll always be Chinese, she might be a Chinese-American if she becomes a citizen, but she'll still be Chinese and for all intents and EEOO purposes she's Asian. Can she deny that? No. I have no problem with people wanting to be multicultural...if it was so wrong, then why does no one complain on St. Paddy's day? Or at a German Oktoberfest, or an Italian St. Joseph's Festival, or a Greek Orthodox church festival? Huh??? Because they're caucasian European-based descendants??? Well, then that's f'd up because it just so happened to fit into what someone defined as being culturally acceptable to white Americans.

[mawilson 2,133]

"In the first place, we should insist that if the immigrant who comes here in good faith becomes an American and assimilates himself to us, he shall be treated on an exact equality with everyone else, for it is an outrage to discriminate against any such man because of creed, or birthplace, or origin. But this is predicated upon the person's becoming in every facet an American, and nothing but an American. There can be no divided allegiance here. Any man who says he is an American, but something else also, isn't an American at all. We have room for but one flag, the American flag. We have room for but one language here, and that is the English language. And we have room for but one sole loyalty and that is a loyalty to the American people."

President Teddy Roosevelt – 1907

Does your wife pass the test?

Next time a Chinese word comes out of her mouth, remind her than "we have room for but one language here, and that is the English language."

[justashooter 430]

"That I absolutely and entirely renounce and abjure all allegiance and fidelity to any foreign prince, potentate, state, or sovereignty, of whom or which I have heretofore been a subject or citizen; That I will support and defend the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America against all enemies, foreign and domestic; That I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; That I will bear arms on behalf of the United States when required by the law ... "

[mawilson 2,133]

"That I absolutely and entirely renounce and abjure all allegiance and fidelity to any foreign prince, potentate, state, or sovereignty, of whom or which I have heretofore been a subject or citizen; That I will support and defend the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America against all enemies, foreign and domestic; That I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; That I will bear arms on behalf of the United States when required by the law ... "

Where does it say that you must "absolutely and entirely renounce" your language and culture?

[Peikko 1,575]

Oh, this is first rate shooternuttery.

[The_Dude 1,142]

[Bobby+Umit 161]

And last I checked, this whole land belonged to the native american indians, so they're the first ones who were here, thus, the white man began the process of bringing multiculturalism to this country.

Erm - but you just said this prior:

You think the names of the SW are in Spanish because some white men discovered it? Ummmmm, no. Those names came from the Mexicans who inhabited those areas and named them based on the characteristics of the geography. Arizona - arid desert, California - hot, Nevada - snow, Montana - mountainous, I can go on and on citing Spanish-named cities and towns.

So it was Mexicans that started the multiculture, not the "white man".

[natty bumppo 297]

And last I checked, this whole land belonged to the native american indians, so they're the first ones who were here, thus, the white man began the process of bringing multiculturalism to this country.

Erm - but you just said this prior:

You think the names of the SW are in Spanish because some white men discovered it? Ummmmm, no. Those names came from the Mexicans who inhabited those areas and named them based on the characteristics of the geography. Arizona - arid desert, California - hot, Nevada - snow, Montana - mountainous, I can go on and on citing Spanish-named cities and towns.

So it was Mexicans that started the multiculture, not the "white man".

you need to go back farther than those messikans

[Sofiyya 1,687]

And last I checked, this whole land belonged to the native american indians, so they're the first ones who were here, thus, the white man began the process of bringing multiculturalism to this country.

Erm - but you just said this prior:

You think the names of the SW are in Spanish because some white men discovered it? Ummmmm, no. Those names came from the Mexicans who inhabited those areas and named them based on the characteristics of the geography. Arizona - arid desert, California - hot, Nevada - snow, Montana - mountainous, I can go on and on citing Spanish-named cities and towns.

So it was Mexicans that started the multiculture, not the "white man".

I always wondered why White Spanish conquistadors aren't seen as imperialists who forced their language. religion an culture on the NATIVES wo were here before they came, and whose cultures and languages have struggled since that time. Seems to me that all this pride in being more like the Spanish, rather than the indigenous people, who are severely discriminated against in south and central America, hurts Mexican credibility and dilutes their claim to being the "original owners" of the SW US.

PS - I noticed the word "ILLEGAL" in the title. Is there no distinction for some of you between legal and illiegal immigration?

Edited June 23, 2009 by Sofiyya

[Kathryn41 3,205]

Interestingly, most of what is described in that article - multiculturalism, diversity, dual nationality, support for ethnicity, celebration of cultural backgrounds - is how Canada approaches immigration and multiculturalism - a country that has successfully married two major cultural backgrounds and languages (although yes there are occasional internal squabbles), as well as has a racial profile that reflects the racial composition of the rest of the world - without the problems US has - or believes it has - with immigrants becoming part of the dominant culture.

Multiculturalism and diversity work and there are successful examples in the rest of the world. US has always described itself as a 'melting pot' and that is its approach to assimilation. It seems fearful of anything or anyone that looks different or sounds different or behaves different. Much of its approach to immigration - both legal and illegal - is strongly fear based and irrational. Canada prides itself on being a 'cultural mosaic' and feels stronger and blessed because of the many strengths brought to the country by its immigrant citizens.

Edited June 23, 2009 by Kathryn41

[NVC FAN :( 18]

no offense here! this is a informative site for sure. i wish they would have mentioned the border states about the hospitals there going bust, over all the unpaid medical treatments they recieve.

[Sofiyya 1,687]

Interestingly, most of what is described in that article - multiculturalism, diversity, dual nationality, support for ethnicity, celebration of cultural backgrounds - is how Canada approaches immigration and multiculturalism - a country that has successfully married two major cultural backgrounds and languages (although yes there are occasional internal squabbles), as well as has a racial profile that reflects the racial composition of the rest of the world - without the problems US has - or believes it has - with immigrants becoming part of the dominant culture.

Multiculturalism and diversity work and there are successful examples in the rest of the world. US has always described itself as a 'melting pot' and that is its approach to assimilation. It seems fearful of anything or anyone that looks different or sounds different or behaves different. Much of its approach to immigration - both legal and illegal - is strongly fear based and irrational. Canada prides itself on being a 'cultural mosaic' and feels stronger and blessed because of the many strengths brought to the country by its immigrant citizens.

Part fantasy, part fact, your view of Canada and the US. I've lived long enough to remember when Canada oppressed its own Native population. In fact, I used to report on such stories. The US is plenty multicultural, and no melting pot. America's success as a desired destination and the liberalism of letting illegals slide by has been its undoing in that its hard to accomodate a mosaic when the Latinos among them are making special demands for themselves based in their lack of tolerance for other groups.

Edited June 23, 2009 by Sofiyya

[Immigrant2009 0]

Why is the plan to destroy America being implemented?

Why are you destroying America by bringing your foreign fiancee here?

Don't we have enough foreigners here already?

Awwww, Mawilson, you're my hero. I had the exact same thought my friend.

You know, if you're so against what I perceive to be as miscegenation in the USA, why are you importing your bride? Furthermore, if you aren't in agreement with how things are in the US today, I'm absolutely sure that we could find someone to take your place who would like to be a fine, upstanding American.

my wife has been here legally for a few years, has a green card, speaks english, accepts American culture enthusiastically while retaining hers, has a job, pays taxes, doesn't commit crime, etc. when i came home from china, she came with me.

i'm not against foreigners. just foreigners that don't respect and accept America the way she is, and don't comply with our legal system. can you argue with those principles?

I agree with you. We all go through a lot of pain to become legal permanent resident while others who are illegal want an easy way out. This doesn't seem right.