help with vawa petition

[Chica Yeyé 41]

As one of our Moderators said, the type of attitude discussed is just not what VisaJourney is all about. We promote a helpful and friendly community. Will we always agree -- not. When that happens though there is no need to be rude or otherwise insulting; there are more adult ways to politely disagree and come to a consensus (or simply chose to ignore the other people).

Done Captain

[NArocks 13]

Yes Capt so Noted

[diadromous mermaid 36]

Who are you????? And what the heck are you talking about? Oh, nevermind, I know who you are!!!! You're name may be changed, but the style speaks volumes.

However, you don't know what you are talking about. Contradictions galore!

Does this sound at all familiar?

Given what you have wrote here, I don't think your VAWA application will be approved because just shouting out -abused and obtaining a restraining order doesn't mean one was really abused. Any woman can get restraining order. Courts ALWAYS give restraining order to a woman even if nothing could be proven, believe me. But EVERY alien files VAWA application if their US citizen-spouse refuses to get them green card....Read my lips- EVERY alien files this petition once US citizen spouse refuses to help them in the green card. Why? Because once a US citizen-spouse refuses, alien-spouse doesn't have any other option to have a green card except thru a VAWA. So they all shout-abuse. But hey, immigration is so dumb. Thus, they always approve VAWA petition until recently because many organizations have raised their voices that VAWA law is being abused and misused by aliens to get LPR. Thus, USCIS has become a bit tough in approving a petition on VAWA law.

It should. You wrote it a few days ago.

Hi All,

I am married to an American citizen and here in America on a K3 visa. After a year long abuse and some stays at shelters, I finally filed for a protective order, and then for my petiton under VAWA. I recently got my work permit, and prima facie for the Vawa case has been determined. What happens when the prima facie for the case I-360 has been determined?

It is a second marriage for both me and my husband. My husband had become friends with my ex, and now obtaining false accusations from him and defaming me. Can he jeoparadize my VAWA case by submitting these accusations from my ex husband?

Please help.

"What happens when the prima facie for the case I-360 has been determined?"

Nothing. Prima Facie is just another processing process of pending petition I-360 (VAWA case). It means nothing. Nada. It doesn't mean your case be denied nor it means your case be approved. It merely means your case is accepted for review. That's all. However, this Prima Facie letter does allow the applicants to obtain state and federal help until case is decided. So, don't ever think that your case be 100% approved just because you have received this Prima Facie letter nor be on mistaken if any attorney tells you otherwise. This letter means nothing except that you may try to get state or federal help if needed.

"Can he jeoparadize my VAWA case by submitting these accusations from my ex husband?"

By law, USCIS cannot tell anyone nor share any information about VAWA case to anyone except with the applicant and law enforcement agencies. Thus, rest assured nobody is going to find out as to whether or not you have EVER filed I-360 (VAWA case). However, not disclosing a VAWA case is one thing and taking credible information on fraud is another thing. What it means is- USCIS cannot and will not disclose to anyone that you have ever filed any VAWA case but that doesn't mean that will not take any credible information/accusations of fraud from someone to deny and prosecute you.

Now, whether or not your ex can jeopardize your VAWA case/immigration case then it would depend on what kind of accusations and information he is submitting to immigration. If he is just making accusations only without any evidences then USCIS will just throw his accusations in the garbage because they don't have time to deal with this type of accusations because they receive this type of things in every marriage based case when marriage falls apart while still immigration process going on. They know that when marriage falls apart, one party will try to stop others from getting immigration status or will try to sabotage others one way or another...no matter what...as emotions run so high and people are up to revenge. I've been on many immigration sites for many years and I've noticed people contacting USCIS with all kind of allegations/accusations you name it...some even produce very solid evidence of fraud committed by alien-spouse, yet still USCIS has had done nothing against those alien-spouse.

Having said that, whether or not your ex's accusations are true, don't worry USCIS won't do anything to you because USCIS is a very incompetent agency of US govt. They let people commit fraud. Not even one case reported in the history of USCIS wherein they have ever prosecuted US citizen for immigration fraud even though many US citizens were found committing immigration fraud for money as they get married with aliens for money in exchange of green card. Thus, USCIS will not do anything to you nor will jeopardize your VAWA case even if your ex's accusations were to be true against you. I'm not saying that you did commit fraud or your ex's accusations are true; instead all I'm saying is that USCIS has NEVER done anything against anyone even if solid and convicing evidences are presented to prove the accusations. So rest assured and sit back and relax.

As for whether or not your VAWA case be approved or not then USCIS approve every VAWA case anyway. Very rarely they deny it to very few people here and there...and that also on techincal merits. With proofs or without proofs, you will get approved. Believe me, everyone gets approved. Trust me. I was a specialist on VAWA cases until 2 years and seen not even one case be denied even if many people have had nothing to prove abuses. All applicants is need-shouting abuse and some stories of how their spouses abused them. That's all. You will be surprised to know that every single man who files this petiton they get approved too even if their US citizen wife was half of their size and nothing happened. I even came across to cases wherein men and women completely fabricated documents of abuses to get a green card thru VAWA law. So, I can assured you that you will get approved in the end. I guarantee you.

[diadromous mermaid 36]

Actually, false claims to be an immigration attorney could be construed as a violation of the TOS.

Your a Supposed attornry? Do you get off on making others feel small? Does that make you the big man on campus? Well not here bud. Please STFU and like stated earlier GTFO. I am sure the OP does need to be harrassed anymore than she already has by he SO.

AS for the OP, Keep going girl. Now that you have been moved to the right forum there will be plently of people who have been through this and worse and will give you the support you are entitled to. My heart goes out to you. Keep Strong honey.

[surferita 1]

Your a Supposed attornry? Do you get off on making others feel small? Does that make you the big man on campus? Well not here bud. Please STFU and like stated earlier GTFO. I am sure the OP does need to be harrassed anymore than she already has by he SO.

AS for the OP, Keep going girl. Now that you have been moved to the right forum there will be plently of people who have been through this and worse and will give you the support you are entitled to. My heart goes out to you. Keep Strong honey.

obviously i don't need witnesses of the money stolen, there are bank statements, enough proof. i have witnesses of the day that he beat me up, enough said, remembering something that brings me so much pain so you can come and even try to put me down is not worthy.

[rooster 1]

Your a Supposed attornry? Do you get off on making others feel small? Does that make you the big man on campus? Well not here bud. Please STFU and like stated earlier GTFO. I am sure the OP does need to be harrassed anymore than she already has by he SO.

AS for the OP, Keep going girl. Now that you have been moved to the right forum there will be plently of people who have been through this and worse and will give you the support you are entitled to. My heart goes out to you. Keep Strong honey.

obviously i don't need witnesses of the money stolen, there are bank statements, enough proof. i have witnesses of the day that he beat me up, enough said, remembering something that brings me so much pain so you can come and even try to put me down is not worthy.

Surferita, NA was not trying to put YOU down. She was defending you from the poster who was trying that. As Ewok said, we are usually a pretty helpful community here. I have no experience in the waiver area as my wife and I never had to file any. But, I do want to wish you the best of luck in your process. It does sound like to me that you unfortunately ended up with a total jerk.

[surferita 1]

Your a Supposed attornry? Do you get off on making others feel small? Does that make you the big man on campus? Well not here bud. Please STFU and like stated earlier GTFO. I am sure the OP does need to be harrassed anymore than she already has by he SO.

AS for the OP, Keep going girl. Now that you have been moved to the right forum there will be plently of people who have been through this and worse and will give you the support you are entitled to. My heart goes out to you. Keep Strong honey.

obviously i don't need witnesses of the money stolen, there are bank statements, enough proof. i have witnesses of the day that he beat me up, enough said, remembering something that brings me so much pain so you can come and even try to put me down is not worthy.

Surferita, NA was not trying to put YOU down. She was defending you from the poster who was trying that. As Ewok said, we are usually a pretty helpful community here. I have no experience in the waiver area as my wife and I never had to file any. But, I do want to wish you the best of luck in your process. It does sound like to me that you unfortunately ended up with a total jerk.

Sorry i quoted her, i didn't mean to, obviously i was trying to respond the other person about me talking about money, money, money and never about the beating up and stuff.

thanks to all.

[rooster 1]

Your a Supposed attornry? Do you get off on making others feel small? Does that make you the big man on campus? Well not here bud. Please STFU and like stated earlier GTFO. I am sure the OP does need to be harrassed anymore than she already has by he SO.

AS for the OP, Keep going girl. Now that you have been moved to the right forum there will be plently of people who have been through this and worse and will give you the support you are entitled to. My heart goes out to you. Keep Strong honey.

obviously i don't need witnesses of the money stolen, there are bank statements, enough proof. i have witnesses of the day that he beat me up, enough said, remembering something that brings me so much pain so you can come and even try to put me down is not worthy.

Surferita, NA was not trying to put YOU down. She was defending you from the poster who was trying that. As Ewok said, we are usually a pretty helpful community here. I have no experience in the waiver area as my wife and I never had to file any. But, I do want to wish you the best of luck in your process. It does sound like to me that you unfortunately ended up with a total jerk.

Sorry i quoted her, i didn't mean to, obviously i was trying to respond the other person about me talking about money, money, money and never about the beating up and stuff.

thanks to all.

I felt like that was where you were actually intending to go. But, sometimes especially here on the net, things get misread or misunderstood and I was just trying to make sure.

[justashooter 430]

Well, according to the doctor that they sent me to make a detail report of the psychological damages that my husband has caused me...

VAWA was not created to allow people with hurt feelings to immigrate if they can't make their marriage work. it was created to allow people who had actually been "abused" to escape abusive marriage without inconvenience. if you had to be sent to a psychologist to explore your psyche to discover whether you had been abused, you weren't. on another note, if you were foolish enough to marry a bi-polar you already knew that you were walking into an unstable relationship, yet chose to do so anyway. surely you made the choice for some reason.

[NArocks 13]

surferita,

Your story has gotten lost in this debate on this thread. I would suggest again that you re post your own thread. As I stated before there are members who have been through this and more who are willing to step up and give you the help you need to get through this trying time. No I have not had to apply for VAWA however as a person I fell for you whole heartedly. Please seek the help you need to get on with your life.

Rooster Thanks

Diad you are also great as I see you all the time here in the major change forum lending a hand..........

Justa We are only reading bits and pieces, I have known many bi polar people who do not show any signs until they for one reason or another go off their medication. Maybe she did not really know the extent of the illness?

[Susita 175]

Well, according to the doctor that they sent me to make a detail report of the psychological damages that my husband has caused me...

VAWA was not created to allow people with hurt feelings to immigrate if they can't make their marriage work. it was created to allow people who had actually been "abused" to escape abusive marriage without inconvenience. if you had to be sent to a psychologist to explore your psyche to discover whether you had been abused, you weren't. on another note, if you were foolish enough to marry a bi-polar you already knew that you were walking into an unstable relationship, yet chose to do so anyway. surely you made the choice for some reason.

I'm sorry... I'm confused, did you read the other posts in the thread? Looks like NO to me.

She got beat up by her fiancee. She has witnesses to this. This is illegal and this is abuse.

So even if your 'assumption' is correct and she wasn't emotionally abused, she was still physically abused,

so I don't even know where you're trying to go with your statement.

And as for making assumptions, well both the moderators and Ewok have already expressed their desire for this to be a supportive thread.

and...

I know bi-polar people who are married and don't beat their husbands/wives up. Nice way to discriminate against people who have controllable psychiatric disorder.

[Minya's wife 25]

Well, according to the doctor that they sent me to make a detail report of the psychological damages that my husband has caused me...

VAWA was not created to allow people with hurt feelings to immigrate if they can't make their marriage work. it was created to allow people who had actually been "abused" to escape abusive marriage without inconvenience. if you had to be sent to a psychologist to explore your psyche to discover whether you had been abused, you weren't. on another note, if you were foolish enough to marry a bi-polar you already knew that you were walking into an unstable relationship, yet chose to do so anyway. surely you made the choice for some reason.

The OP has documentation of the abuse and given what she stated, VAWA was created for just her type of situation. Really, you need to propagate your wiki-wisdom to this thread too??? Judging by this comment you did not read the whole thread you justshot off the mouth.

But to imply that the OP to blame somehow, if she married a man knowing he's bipolar is a $hitty thing to do. not cool at all.

[TBoneTX 45,304]

Can we now refocus on the OP's question, si man?

[surferita 1]

Well, according to the doctor that they sent me to make a detail report of the psychological damages that my husband has caused me...

VAWA was not created to allow people with hurt feelings to immigrate if they can't make their marriage work. it was created to allow people who had actually been "abused" to escape abusive marriage without inconvenience. if you had to be sent to a psychologist to explore your psyche to discover whether you had been abused, you weren't. on another note, if you were foolish enough to marry a bi-polar you already knew that you were walking into an unstable relationship, yet chose to do so anyway. surely you made the choice for some reason.

As i have already explain somewhere else in this Forum, I didn't know how sick he was till we got married.

Another thing, having a psychological problem and being american doesn't give you the RIGHT to beat up anybody and they have to shut up and don't tell,

I needed a psychological report, just in case the letters to his family, my school, my family and the report that I had at my country newspaper about me closing myself in a bedroom for a week because i was scared of him abusing, harassing and extortioning me wasn't enough, I think thats something that most of the VAWA women go through, at least that's what my lawyer said, never my idea.

[surferita 1]

Well, according to the doctor that they sent me to make a detail report of the psychological damages that my husband has caused me...

VAWA was not created to allow people with hurt feelings to immigrate if they can't make their marriage work. it was created to allow people who had actually been "abused" to escape abusive marriage without inconvenience. if you had to be sent to a psychologist to explore your psyche to discover whether you had been abused, you weren't. on another note, if you were foolish enough to marry a bi-polar you already knew that you were walking into an unstable relationship, yet chose to do so anyway. surely you made the choice for some reason.

As i have already explain somewhere else in this Forum, I didn't know how sick he was till we got married.

Another thing, having a psychological problem and being american doesn't give you the RIGHT to beat up anybody and they have to shut up and don't tell,

I needed a psychological report, just in case the letters to his family, my school, my family and the report that I had at my country newspaper about me closing myself in a bedroom for a week because I was scared of him abusing, harassing and extortioning me wasn't enough, I think thats something that most of the VAWA women go through, at least that's what my lawyer said, never my idea.

Of course i didn't know how sick he was, while our engagement he was retained in a psychiatric for some inappropriate behavior at the school where he was kicked out of, he never wanted to talk about it and i guess for some reason i never thought it was that serious to have to find out, i found out this not so long ago but now thanks to the transcript from the hearing i know meds that he is taking and all his mental sickness and conditions.

Bipolar, esquizofrenia, depression, etc