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[rebeccajo 14]

I, for one, am not willing to trust them with my life. There's a lot of legitimate complaints that can be made about a for-profit health care system, but there's no denying that profit motivates people. Good quality care is available on-demand in the US, as long as you can pay for it. I would like to see it stay that way.

That sort of comment makes the lives of the uninsured sound like Wall Street commodities.

[ghosttridder 0]

entering the us is soooo overrated. The process is so uncertain, excessively lengthy, overwhelming paperwork, multiple interviews and appointments. This process has more work than buying a house or a car, getting a loan or any other process that i know of

and the Americans sit there and wonder why all the mexicans cross the border illegally...

[JimVaPhuong 4,863]

I, for one, am not willing to trust them with my life. There's a lot of legitimate complaints that can be made about a for-profit health care system, but there's no denying that profit motivates people. Good quality care is available on-demand in the US, as long as you can pay for it. I would like to see it stay that way.

That sort of comment makes the lives of the uninsured sound like Wall Street commodities.

Not at all. For the uninsured, even poor service from a healthcare provider is better than no service at all. I just don't want the bar lowered so that everyone in the US gets the same mediocre quality care. Health care is no different from any other service. The best quality always costs the most money. Is it fair? No, but that's the nature of human beings. If you want somebody's best effort you have to motivate them. Profit is a very strong motivator.

[rebeccajo 14]

I, for one, am not willing to trust them with my life. There's a lot of legitimate complaints that can be made about a for-profit health care system, but there's no denying that profit motivates people. Good quality care is available on-demand in the US, as long as you can pay for it. I would like to see it stay that way.

That sort of comment makes the lives of the uninsured sound like Wall Street commodities.

Not at all. For the uninsured, even poor service from a healthcare provider is better than no service at all. I just don't want the bar lowered so that everyone in the US gets the same mediocre quality care. Health care is no different from any other service. The best quality always costs the most money. Is it fair? No, but that's the nature of human beings. If you want somebody's best effort you have to motivate them. Profit is a very strong motivator.

I fail to see how lining the pockets of the insurance companies who hold American employers hostage with rising premiums equates to better care.

[JimVaPhuong 4,863]

I, for one, am not willing to trust them with my life. There's a lot of legitimate complaints that can be made about a for-profit health care system, but there's no denying that profit motivates people. Good quality care is available on-demand in the US, as long as you can pay for it. I would like to see it stay that way.

That sort of comment makes the lives of the uninsured sound like Wall Street commodities.

Not at all. For the uninsured, even poor service from a healthcare provider is better than no service at all. I just don't want the bar lowered so that everyone in the US gets the same mediocre quality care. Health care is no different from any other service. The best quality always costs the most money. Is it fair? No, but that's the nature of human beings. If you want somebody's best effort you have to motivate them. Profit is a very strong motivator.

I fail to see how lining the pockets of the insurance companies who hold American employers hostage with rising premiums equates to better care.

The insurance companies are not the problem, per se. The healthcare professionals are where the profit motive comes into play. In a single payer system everyone works for the same employer. Individual pay might vary based on merit, but the possibility for one person to profit substantially by working harder and providing higher quality service is pretty much gone.

[rebeccajo 14]

I, for one, am not willing to trust them with my life. There's a lot of legitimate complaints that can be made about a for-profit health care system, but there's no denying that profit motivates people. Good quality care is available on-demand in the US, as long as you can pay for it. I would like to see it stay that way.

That sort of comment makes the lives of the uninsured sound like Wall Street commodities.

Not at all. For the uninsured, even poor service from a healthcare provider is better than no service at all. I just don't want the bar lowered so that everyone in the US gets the same mediocre quality care. Health care is no different from any other service. The best quality always costs the most money. Is it fair? No, but that's the nature of human beings. If you want somebody's best effort you have to motivate them. Profit is a very strong motivator.

I fail to see how lining the pockets of the insurance companies who hold American employers hostage with rising premiums equates to better care.

The insurance companies are not the problem, per se. The healthcare professionals are where the profit motive comes into play. In a single payer system everyone works for the same employer. Individual pay might vary based on merit, but the possibility for one person to profit substantially by working harder and providing higher quality service is pretty much gone.

I fail to see how profit in the health care industry equates to working harder and providing higher quality service.

Making money under the present US health care system is based on a provider knowing which services he can bill for that pay the most - not on providing 'great' service to the patient. At the mental health clinic i work for, we keep a large fleet of vehicles so we can provide transport for patients that can't get themselves to the clinic. We are allowed to bill for these services and the money we bring in far outweighs the cost of the vehicles. If Medicaid disallowed this service, I can guarantee you those cars would be sold.

Oh and by the way you will notice my reference is to Medicaid. If you have insurance through your employer or if you have Medicare, we can't bill your insurance company for picking you up. So you have to get to the clinic on your own. Another example of inequality of service in the industry even for those with some sort of medical cover.

Edited June 20, 2009 by rebeccajo

[JimVaPhuong 4,863]

I, for one, am not willing to trust them with my life. There's a lot of legitimate complaints that can be made about a for-profit health care system, but there's no denying that profit motivates people. Good quality care is available on-demand in the US, as long as you can pay for it. I would like to see it stay that way.

That sort of comment makes the lives of the uninsured sound like Wall Street commodities.

Not at all. For the uninsured, even poor service from a healthcare provider is better than no service at all. I just don't want the bar lowered so that everyone in the US gets the same mediocre quality care. Health care is no different from any other service. The best quality always costs the most money. Is it fair? No, but that's the nature of human beings. If you want somebody's best effort you have to motivate them. Profit is a very strong motivator.

I fail to see how lining the pockets of the insurance companies who hold American employers hostage with rising premiums equates to better care.

The insurance companies are not the problem, per se. The healthcare professionals are where the profit motive comes into play. In a single payer system everyone works for the same employer. Individual pay might vary based on merit, but the possibility for one person to profit substantially by working harder and providing higher quality service is pretty much gone.

I fail to see how profit in the health care industry equates to working harder and providing higher quality service.

Making money under the present US health care system is based on a provider knowing which services he can bill for that pay the most - not on providing 'great' service to the patient. At the mental health clinic i work for, we keep a large fleet of vehicles so we can provide transport for patients that can't get themselves to the clinic. We are allowed to bill for these services and the money we bring in far outweighs the cost of the vehicles. If Medicaid disallowed this service, I can guarantee you those cars would be sold.

Oh and by the way you will notice my reference is to Medicaid. If you have insurance through your employer or if you have Medicare, we can't bill your insurance company for picking you up. So you have to get to the clinic on your own. Another example of inequality of service in the industry even for those with some sort of medical cover.

Ok, you can have the last word on this. I shouldn't have derailed the thread since my initial comments were