Does I-864A have to be notarized??

[NateM 0]

So sorry to post yet again, but I keep running into unexpected things... Directly on the USCIS website, on the most recent/current page where you download the I-864A, it says:

"Where to File :

Should be filed with Form I-864, Affidavit of Support Under Section 213A of the Act.

The signatures on the I-864A must be notarized by a notary public or signed before an immigration or consular officer."

Is this true, or a possible mistake? I know the regular I-864 doesn't need to be notarized anymore... Does anyone know about this?

http://www.uscis.gov/portal/site/uscis/men...00048f3d6a1RCRD

[ThaitoUSA 15]

The I-134 Affidavit of Support no longer needs to be notarized.

I am unaware of any change with the I-864. Where did you hear that it no longer needs to be notarized?

[ThaitoUSA 15]

Having looked over the I-864, I notice that there is no space to notarize. Very strange as I clearly remember a recent conversation on this board about requiring it be notarized. That's good to know.

[Gary and Alla 3,694]

So sorry to post yet again, but I keep running into unexpected things... Directly on the USCIS website, on the most recent/current page where you download the I-864A, it says:

"Where to File :

Should be filed with Form I-864, Affidavit of Support Under Section 213A of the Act.

The signatures on the I-864A must be notarized by a notary public or signed before an immigration or consular officer."

Is this true, or a possible mistake? I know the regular I-864 doesn't need to be notarized anymore... Does anyone know about this?

http://www.uscis.gov/portal/site/uscis/men...00048f3d6a1RCRD

There is no provision for a notary on any of these forms. The I-864 (I-864a) has never (at least not anytime recently) been required to be notarized. The I-134 was required to be notarized until late last year, the new forms are not notarized.

[Gary and Alla 3,694]

So sorry to post yet again, but I keep running into unexpected things... Directly on the USCIS website, on the most recent/current page where you download the I-864A, it says:

"Where to File :

Should be filed with Form I-864, Affidavit of Support Under Section 213A of the Act.

The signatures on the I-864A must be notarized by a notary public or signed before an immigration or consular officer."

Is this true, or a possible mistake? I know the regular I-864 doesn't need to be notarized anymore... Does anyone know about this?

http://www.uscis.gov/portal/site/uscis/men...00048f3d6a1RCRD

There is no provision for a notary on any of these forms. The I-864 (I-864a) has never (at least not anytime recently) been required to be notarized. The I-134 was required to be notarized until late last year, the new forms are not notarized.

I am not sure where you are quoting this information from "USCIS" but I have no idea why a USCIS publicaton would even mention the existance of a "consular officer". Perhaps you are reading from Consulate instructions? Some consulates rewuire the I-864a and consulates are also allowed to make their own specific rules regarding notarizing documents.

Here is what the instructions for the I-864a say regarding signature

Read the household member's promise carefully, print your

name, and then sign and date the form. If you do not print

your name on line 15 and sign and date the form on line

16, the intending immigrant cannot be issued a visa or be

granted adjustment of status based upon the income and/

or assets listed on this form.

Nothing about a notary

[NateM 0]

I truly hope you are correct. Here is exactly where I'm getting the information... If you go to www.uscis.gov, you'll see a link near the top of the homepage that says "Immigration Forms." Click on it, and it goes to a page listing all the forms they have. Scroll down until you get to I-864A, and click on the corresponding link next to it (which reads, "Contract Between Sponsor and Household Member"). You'll see it towards the middle of the page, under "Where to File":

"The signatures on the I-864A must be notarized by a notary public or signed before an immigration or consular officer."

(Or, if you're in a hurry, I've re-pasted the direct link below):

http://www.uscis.gov/portal/site/uscis/men...00048f3d6a1RCRD

[Bobby+Umit 161]

Plenty of people here have sent in 864A's and never mentioned it to be notarized - perhaps USCIS hasn't updated their site to the new instructions?

[NateM 0]

Plenty of people here have sent in 864A's and never mentioned it to be notarized - perhaps USCIS hasn't updated their site to the new instructions?

Thanks Bobby - I think this must be the answer. Thanks to everyone else who commented as well.

Would anybody possibly be able to give some help/input regarding my previous thread? Most of the initial questions were answered in it, but other things came up along the way - primarily whether or not I will need 3 tax returns (no need to read the entire thread, but perhaps just the last post or two in it). And if even more important than that, the final question asked in it, slightly revised here:

Do you think it's better to file on time, but still be unsure about whether the I-894 has everything/is perfect? OR... Would it be better to try to be sure everything is as perfect as possible on the I-864 before sending it in, but have my wife go "Out of Status" for a few days (or even a week if I need to somehow get 3 tax returns)?

My wife's I-94 expires this weekend, and I have to get this in the mail in less than 6 hours in order to beat the deadline. (Feel free to just reply here if it's easier).

[Bobby+Umit 161]

Plenty of people here have sent in 864A's and never mentioned it to be notarized - perhaps USCIS hasn't updated their site to the new instructions?

Thanks Bobby - I think this must be the answer. Thanks to everyone else who commented as well.

Would anybody possibly be able to give some help/input regarding my previous thread? Most of the initial questions were answered in it, but other things came up along the way - primarily whether or not I will need 3 tax returns (no need to read the entire thread, but perhaps just the last post or two in it). And if even more important than that, the final question asked in it, slightly revised here:

Do you think it's better to file on time, but still be unsure about whether the I-894 has everything/is perfect? OR... Would it be better to try to be sure everything is as perfect as possible on the I-864 before sending it in, but have my wife go "Out of Status" for a few days (or even a week if I need to somehow get 3 tax returns)?

My wife's I-94 expires this weekend, and I have to get this in the mail in less than 6 hours in order to beat the deadline. (Feel free to just reply here if it's easier).

Few days/weeks will not matter. USCIS doesn't really care, as long as you file the AOS.

ICE, on the other hand, can be problem.

Send what info you have for the 864. (you only have 2008 returns if i remember your previous posts) and a statement on why you didn't file for 2006/07. No issues.

If they want more info - you get an RFE - again, just answer it if it happens. Once you have your NOA from the AOS, your "safe" - don't overthink, just do

[Gary and Alla 3,694]

I truly hope you are correct. Here is exactly where I'm getting the information... If you go to www.uscis.gov, you'll see a link near the top of the homepage that says "Immigration Forms." Click on it, and it goes to a page listing all the forms they have. Scroll down until you get to I-864A, and click on the corresponding link next to it (which reads, "Contract Between Sponsor and Household Member"). You'll see it towards the middle of the page, under "Where to File":

"The signatures on the I-864A must be notarized by a notary public or signed before an immigration or consular officer."

(Or, if you're in a hurry, I've re-pasted the direct link below):

http://www.uscis.gov/portal/site/uscis/men...00048f3d6a1RCRD

Well sho' nuff!! I have filed two of the I-864s (not I-864a) and never notarized either and never had a problem and there is definitely NOT a place for a notary on the form. But if it makes you feel better, why not? I am now preparing a third I-864 to be filed next month and that one won't be notarized either. Our bank does this for free for account holders, so it isn't difficult or expensive. Do what feels right for you.

I had my tax return notarized for an interview in Kiev because an outdated instruction form they still use lists it as required. I have previously submitted 2 un-notarized tax returns for previous visas and had no problem, but having seen that, I had the most recent notarized for free at the bank. Everyone tells me it is not necessary, and I know it isn't, but who knows? Some consular officer gets a bug up his bum that day and decides to enforce old rules...I am covered

[Gary and Alla 3,694]

Plenty of people here have sent in 864A's and never mentioned it to be notarized - perhaps USCIS hasn't updated their site to the new instructions?

Thanks Bobby - I think this must be the answer. Thanks to everyone else who commented as well.

Would anybody possibly be able to give some help/input regarding my previous thread? Most of the initial questions were answered in it, but other things came up along the way - primarily whether or not I will need 3 tax returns (no need to read the entire thread, but perhaps just the last post or two in it). And if even more important than that, the final question asked in it, slightly revised here:

Do you think it's better to file on time, but still be unsure about whether the I-894 has everything/is perfect? OR... Would it be better to try to be sure everything is as perfect as possible on the I-864 before sending it in, but have my wife go "Out of Status" for a few days (or even a week if I need to somehow get 3 tax returns)?

My wife's I-94 expires this weekend, and I have to get this in the mail in less than 6 hours in order to beat the deadline. (Feel free to just reply here if it's easier).

I think it is important to file "on time" But I think it is MORE important to be correct and complete, make it a priority and get it done ASAP.

Plenty of people here have sent in 864A's and never mentioned it to be notarized - perhaps USCIS hasn't updated their site to the new instructions?

Thanks Bobby - I think this must be the answer. Thanks to everyone else who commented as well.

Would anybody possibly be able to give some help/input regarding my previous thread? Most of the initial questions were answered in it, but other things came up along the way - primarily whether or not I will need 3 tax returns (no need to read the entire thread, but perhaps just the last post or two in it). And if even more important than that, the final question asked in it, slightly revised here:

Do you think it's better to file on time, but still be unsure about whether the I-894 has everything/is perfect? OR... Would it be better to try to be sure everything is as perfect as possible on the I-864 before sending it in, but have my wife go "Out of Status" for a few days (or even a week if I need to somehow get 3 tax returns)?

My wife's I-94 expires this weekend, and I have to get this in the mail in less than 6 hours in order to beat the deadline. (Feel free to just reply here if it's easier).

Few days/weeks will not matter. USCIS doesn't really care, as long as you file the AOS.

ICE, on the other hand, can be problem.

Send what info you have for the 864. (you only have 2008 returns if i remember your previous posts) and a statement on why you didn't file for 2006/07. No issues.

If they want more info - you get an RFE - again, just answer it if it happens. Once you have your NOA from the AOS, your "safe" - don't overthink, just do

Another valid option. If you don't mind an RFE delaying things a bit, at least you have the NOA that you filed.

[Gary and Alla 3,694]

Plenty of people here have sent in 864A's and never mentioned it to be notarized - perhaps USCIS hasn't updated their site to the new instructions?

Thanks Bobby - I think this must be the answer. Thanks to everyone else who commented as well.

Would anybody possibly be able to give some help/input regarding my previous thread? Most of the initial questions were answered in it, but other things came up along the way - primarily whether or not I will need 3 tax returns (no need to read the entire thread, but perhaps just the last post or two in it). And if even more important than that, the final question asked in it, slightly revised here:

Do you think it's better to file on time, but still be unsure about whether the I-894 has everything/is perfect? OR... Would it be better to try to be sure everything is as perfect as possible on the I-864 before sending it in, but have my wife go "Out of Status" for a few days (or even a week if I need to somehow get 3 tax returns)?

My wife's I-94 expires this weekend, and I have to get this in the mail in less than 6 hours in order to beat the deadline. (Feel free to just reply here if it's easier).

Now a word to other readers, not to maul the OP, I am not. It is best in this process to study what is needed ALL the way through the process before beginning the process and prepare accordingly. Understand what you need to do and when. And work on it from DAY ONE. If you understand when you file the petition you need a "father letter" for the interview or three years tax returns to have been filed for the AOS, you will have months to do it. I have prepared our sons K-2 AOS. He will arrive July 16, it will be filed July 17. I need a copy of his visa, passport and I-94, obviously I cannot do that until he arrives but the copy machine is warmed up, the check is written and clipped to the forms and the envelope is addressed. Our K-1 interview documents were prepared before the petition was filed (except I-134). I am not saying "look at perfect me", I am not perfect. But you can do yourselves a lot of good by studying and preparing. If you read this you are on the best site for this information, it is all here.

Good luck

[Inna 0]

If I want to get I-864a notarized, where should a notary put a stamp and a signature???

[Anh map 2,098]

The USCIS page that the OP posted may be referring to an outdated version of the I-864A (11/01/06). The current version (10/18/07) does not have any provisions or space for a notary to sign.

[YuAndDan 153]

NO

None of the I-864 forms need notarization, that includes I-864, I-864EZ, and I-864A.

Some editions of the Form I-864 and Form I-864A include a jurat to be completed by a notary or by a consular or immigration officer to show that the person signed or acknowledged the signing of the Form I-864 or I-864A under oath. The Form I-864 and Form I-864A, however, provide that they are signed “under penalty of perjury.” Thus, 28 USC 1746 (which deals with the legal effect of unsworn statements) makes it unnecessary for Form I-864 and Form I-864A to be signed in the presence of or certified by a notary public or an Immigration or Consular Officer. Note that the jurat has been removed from the January 15, 2006 edition of the Forms I-864 and I-864A. Form I-86EZ is a newer form, and therefore never had the jurat.

http://www.uscis.gov/propub/ProPubVAP.jsp?...f85680eca9562d3

More: http://www.uscis.gov/files/pressrelease/AffSuppAFM062706.pdf

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