'Minutemen' Charged In Murders, Tied To Supremacist Groups

[nowhereman 1]

This is a pretty bad thread to use to suggest that conservatives are being maligned

It's the perfect thread to do just that.

Sure - every thread has whine potential. Its just a shame that the basis for the whine in question isn't present here.

I disagree that disagreement always constitutes a whine, or that this thread is not an attack on conservatives, and for good reason. Steven has become a knee jerk reactionary for attacking conservatives. I believe that a lot of hsi anxiety has to do with him coming to terms with the realization that he made a bad choice by voting for Obama. But his buyer's remorse is misdirected. He needs to look inside, not lash out at others. We may represent what he fears, but deal wth that, not waste time making liberals look insane by trying to make conservatives look insane.

Again you need to practice what you preach... I agree with some of what you are saying but you clearly have issues with what you consider a liberal mindset. For example suggesting that everyone that voted for Obama has or should have "buyer's remorse" is self-centered & perhaps self-righteous. Start denouncing the right wing mindset here on VJ & you'll have credibility, but until that time you are just being a hypocrite. As for conservatives vs right wing I for one do make a distinction between the two; in my mind right wing is even farther right than conservative (but not as far right as the reactionary/extremist group).

I'm quite sure I said STEVIE has buyer's remorse. Are all Obama voters named Stevie?

I don't need your idea of credibility hung on me, than you. Your distinctions are also worthless to me.

You argue in circles & when cornered you simply repeat what you've already said... its impossible to have a meaningful conversation with you because you don't hold yourself to the same standards that you are attempting to hold others to (like Guano). Be like Gary, knock off the rhetoric & contempt for other points of view, & someone other than your cronies will listen to you.

[Sofiyya 1,687]

This is a pretty bad thread to use to suggest that conservatives are being maligned

It's the perfect thread to do just that.

Sure - every thread has whine potential. Its just a shame that the basis for the whine in question isn't present here.

I disagree that disagreement always constitutes a whine, or that this thread is not an attack on conservatives, and for good reason. Steven has become a knee jerk reactionary for attacking conservatives. I believe that a lot of hsi anxiety has to do with him coming to terms with the realization that he made a bad choice by voting for Obama. But his buyer's remorse is misdirected. He needs to look inside, not lash out at others. We may represent what he fears, but deal wth that, not waste time making liberals look insane by trying to make conservatives look insane.

Again you need to practice what you preach... I agree with some of what you are saying but you clearly have issues with what you consider a liberal mindset. For example suggesting that everyone that voted for Obama has or should have "buyer's remorse" is self-centered & perhaps self-righteous. Start denouncing the right wing mindset here on VJ & you'll have credibility, but until that time you are just being a hypocrite. As for conservatives vs right wing I for one do make a distinction between the two; in my mind right wing is even farther right than conservative (but not as far right as the reactionary/extremist group).

I'm quite sure I said STEVIE has buyer's remorse. Are all Obama voters named Stevie?

I don't need your idea of credibility hung on me, than you. Your distinctions are also worthless to me.

You argue in circles & when cornered you simply repeat what you've already said... its impossible to have a meaningful conversation with you because you don't hold yourself to the same standards that you are attempting to hold others to (like Guano). Be like Gary, knock off the rhetoric & contempt for other points of view, & someone other than your cronies will listen to you.

You kill me. You think you're so different from what you complain about, but you are so much the same. Self-awareness escapes you.

I still remember your first post to me, that I shouldn't reproduce . . . it wasn't pretty, but you hold yourself out as judge over demeanor. You must be joking.

Edited June 17, 2009 by Sofiyya

[one...two...tree 2,762]

Oh the selective outrage brigade is in full force tonight.

Apparently calling people Dimocrats is not as bad as calling someone a **. Could I have fries with that Double Standard?

Edited June 17, 2009 by Col. 'Bat' Guano

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

I imagine it must be difficult to keep track of past hypocrisies.

[Sofiyya 1,687]

I imagine it must be difficult to keep track of past hypocrisies.

I doubt you have to imagine.

[nowhereman 1]

This is a pretty bad thread to use to suggest that conservatives are being maligned

It's the perfect thread to do just that.

Sure - every thread has whine potential. Its just a shame that the basis for the whine in question isn't present here.

I disagree that disagreement always constitutes a whine, or that this thread is not an attack on conservatives, and for good reason. Steven has become a knee jerk reactionary for attacking conservatives. I believe that a lot of hsi anxiety has to do with him coming to terms with the realization that he made a bad choice by voting for Obama. But his buyer's remorse is misdirected. He needs to look inside, not lash out at others. We may represent what he fears, but deal wth that, not waste time making liberals look insane by trying to make conservatives look insane.

Again you need to practice what you preach... I agree with some of what you are saying but you clearly have issues with what you consider a liberal mindset. For example suggesting that everyone that voted for Obama has or should have "buyer's remorse" is self-centered & perhaps self-righteous. Start denouncing the right wing mindset here on VJ & you'll have credibility, but until that time you are just being a hypocrite. As for conservatives vs right wing I for one do make a distinction between the two; in my mind right wing is even farther right than conservative (but not as far right as the reactionary/extremist group).

I'm quite sure I said STEVIE has buyer's remorse. Are all Obama voters named Stevie?

I don't need your idea of credibility hung on me, than you. Your distinctions are also worthless to me.

You argue in circles & when cornered you simply repeat what you've already said... its impossible to have a meaningful conversation with you because you don't hold yourself to the same standards that you are attempting to hold others to (like Guano). Be like Gary, knock off the rhetoric & contempt for other points of view, & someone other than your cronies will listen to you.

You kill me. You think you're so different from what you complain about, but you are so much the same. Self-awareness escapes you.

I still remember your first post to me, that I shouldn't reproduce . . . it wasn't pretty, but you hold yourself out as judge over demeanor. You must be joking.

I apologized for my first post to you, yet you have never once even acknowledged your own blatant hypocrisy. If you have a burning hatred of what you define as a liberal (a term consistently abused on VJ, but that's a different topic) then embrace your hatred & let the rhetoric & hateful comments flow like you've done so many times in the past. To sit there & denounce Guano's posts, while staying silent about all of the posts created from the other side of the spectrum (and contributing to them in many cases) is textbook hypocrisy. The differences between you and I is that I am capable of admitting my mistakes, I have at times agreed with the right & have also denounced comments from the left when they have gone too far. Show me any examples where you have done any of these things.

[one...two...tree 2,762]

I imagine it must be difficult to keep track of past hypocrisies.

Especially wearing these...

[Sofiyya 1,687]

Oh the selective outrage brigade is in full force tonight.

Apparently calling people Dimocrats is not as bad as calling someone a **. Could I have fries with that Double Standard?

I'm not going to stop using **. In fact, I'm proud of it, just as you must be proud of inferring that conservatives are murderers.

[one...two...tree 2,762]

nowhereman,

You're trying to rationalize with an Right Wing nut who doesn't think she's an ideologue. It's futile.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

I imagine it must be difficult to keep track of past hypocrisies.

I doubt you have to imagine.

Steve has a point - you are pretty infamous for your diatribes against Liberals and "Dimocrats" - what have you got to say for yourself?

[Sofiyya 1,687]

This is a pretty bad thread to use to suggest that conservatives are being maligned

It's the perfect thread to do just that.

Sure - every thread has whine potential. Its just a shame that the basis for the whine in question isn't present here.

I disagree that disagreement always constitutes a whine, or that this thread is not an attack on conservatives, and for good reason. Steven has become a knee jerk reactionary for attacking conservatives. I believe that a lot of hsi anxiety has to do with him coming to terms with the realization that he made a bad choice by voting for Obama. But his buyer's remorse is misdirected. He needs to look inside, not lash out at others. We may represent what he fears, but deal wth that, not waste time making liberals look insane by trying to make conservatives look insane.

Again you need to practice what you preach... I agree with some of what you are saying but you clearly have issues with what you consider a liberal mindset. For example suggesting that everyone that voted for Obama has or should have "buyer's remorse" is self-centered & perhaps self-righteous. Start denouncing the right wing mindset here on VJ & you'll have credibility, but until that time you are just being a hypocrite. As for conservatives vs right wing I for one do make a distinction between the two; in my mind right wing is even farther right than conservative (but not as far right as the reactionary/extremist group).

I'm quite sure I said STEVIE has buyer's remorse. Are all Obama voters named Stevie?

I don't need your idea of credibility hung on me, than you. Your distinctions are also worthless to me.

You argue in circles & when cornered you simply repeat what you've already said... its impossible to have a meaningful conversation with you because you don't hold yourself to the same standards that you are attempting to hold others to (like Guano). Be like Gary, knock off the rhetoric & contempt for other points of view, & someone other than your cronies will listen to you.

You kill me. You think you're so different from what you complain about, but you are so much the same. Self-awareness escapes you.

I still remember your first post to me, that I shouldn't reproduce . . . it wasn't pretty, but you hold yourself out as judge over demeanor. You must be joking.

I apologized for my first post to you, yet you have never once even acknowledged your own blatant hypocrisy. If you have a burning hatred of what you define as a liberal (a term consistently abused on VJ, but that's a different topic) then embrace your hatred & let the rhetoric & hateful comments flow like you've done so many times in the past. To sit there & denounce Guano's posts, while staying silent about all of the posts created from the other side of the spectrum (and contributing to them in many cases) is textbook hypocrisy. The differences between you and I is that I am capable of admitting my mistakes, I have at times agreed with the right & have also denounced comments from the left when they have gone too far. Show me any examples where you have done any of these things.

Hypocrisy is a strong word, and terribly misunderstood. I'm not PC or pro anything that would destroy freedom and assert dependency. Thats not the same as being a hypocrite. I'm also not here for popularity points. You need to stop transferring your needs on me, please.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Oh the selective outrage brigade is in full force tonight.

Apparently calling people Dimocrats is not as bad as calling someone a **. Could I have fries with that Double Standard?

I'm not going to stop using **. In fact, I'm proud of it, just as you must be proud of inferring that conservatives are murderers.

I think your train of thought jumped the tracks...

[Sofiyya 1,687]

I imagine it must be difficult to keep track of past hypocrisies.

I doubt you have to imagine.

Steve has a point - you are pretty infamous for your diatribes against Liberals and "Dimocrats" - what have you got to say for yourself?

They're only diatribes because you're oblivious to the truth.

Oh the selective outrage brigade is in full force tonight.

Apparently calling people Dimocrats is not as bad as calling someone a **. Could I have fries with that Double Standard?

I'm not going to stop using **. In fact, I'm proud of it, just as you must be proud of inferring that conservatives are murderers.

I think your train of thought jumped the tracks...

Yours can't find the tracks.

[nowhereman 1]

nowhereman,

You're trying to rationalize with an Right Wing nut who doesn't think she's an ideologue. It's futile.

Yea I know I'm a complete dumbass for trying to have a sensible conversation with VW... I should just sign off & have an nice conversation with the wall in front of me (same end result).

[one...two...tree 2,762]

It's amazing how a factual, newsworthy story gets so many riled up. I think it's from watching too much Fox News...not used to cold, hard facts.

nowhereman,

You're trying to rationalize with an Right Wing nut who doesn't think she's an ideologue. It's futile.

Yea I know I'm a complete dumbass for trying to have a sensible conversation with VW... I should just sign off & have an nice conversation with the wall in front of me (same end result).

Just about.

She's sweet when she's not talking politics though. I hope she knows I mean that.