'Minutemen' Charged In Murders, Tied To Supremacist Groups

[one...two...tree 2,762]

Both of you (Bat & Gary) have a point.. Guano posted a thread that obviously sheds the right in a bad light, but at the same time it is actual news. However you have the other VJers who post stuff that maligns the left. Both are one sided but I guess if you split the difference reality is somewhere in between.

I'm not holding breath for Gary to show this kind of outrage over Danno's, VW's, Bill's, Charles' or any other Right Winger's posts.

Your hateful posts outnumber all of ours put together.

[Sofiyya 1,687]

If White Supremacists are Right Wingers, then Al Qaeda members are Left Wingers.

Both of you (Bat & Gary) have a point.. Guano posted a thread that obviously sheds the right in a bad light, but at the same time it is actual news. However you have the other VJers who post stuff that maligns the left. Both are one sided but I guess if you split the difference reality is somewhere in between.

I'm not holding breath for Gary to show this kind of outrage over Danno's, VW's, Bill's, Charles' or any other Right Winger's posts.

Your hateful posts outnumber all of ours put together.

That settles it. You're in critical denial.

[nowhereman 1]

Both of you (Bat & Gary) have a point.. Guano posted a thread that obviously sheds the right in a bad light, but at the same time it is actual news. However you have the other VJers who post stuff that maligns the left. Both are one sided but I guess if you split the difference reality is somewhere in between.

I'm not holding breath for Gary to show this kind of outrage over Danno's, VW's, Bill's, Charles' or any other Right Winger's posts.

You're probably correct ... Gary used to post threads & comments very similar to what Danno posts now. Gary has toned down his rhetoric quite a bit, so he gets kudos for that, but I have yet to see him be critical of the VJ right (perhaps he has & I missed it).

My silence in those threads speaks volumes. I wouldn't care if Steven posted a few anti-right posts but he goes WAY overboard with the innuendo and outright lies he posts. To associate the right with murderers and to insinuate that the reps don't support the troops is way over the line. Correct me if I am wrong but I haven't seen very many posts from Danno or VW that tries to link the left with murderers or terrorists. If they have then I will denounce those posts right now. All I have seen is posts that criticize policies of the lefts positions. That is OK from either side IMO but Steven is downright mean and dishonest with his linkages.

You haven't seen any from me cause there are none. In fact, I rarely even post threads.

Danno starts many threads, you post responses to many threads (just clearing that up). Also you are proving Guano's point, whether you realize it or not, by blasting him & glossing over the antics of the VJ right (they are far from being innocent in the perpetual VJ war of words). Also are you VW? If you are I didn't know (just curious).

[Ban Hammer 13,364]

Gary,

Do a Google search on the 3 suspects:

Shawna Forde, Jason Bush, and Albert Gaxiola

....

Good luck finding ANY links to Right Wing outlets. That should trouble even the most ardent Conservative here.

so if you don't find any links, that proves what?

Also are you VW? If you are I didn't know (just curious).

don't know how to check name change history?

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

If White Supremacists are Right Wingers, then Al Qaeda members are Left Wingers.

They're more anarchist, than socialist - but yes.

Now you're getting it

[Sofiyya 1,687]

Both of you (Bat & Gary) have a point.. Guano posted a thread that obviously sheds the right in a bad light, but at the same time it is actual news. However you have the other VJers who post stuff that maligns the left. Both are one sided but I guess if you split the difference reality is somewhere in between.

I'm not holding breath for Gary to show this kind of outrage over Danno's, VW's, Bill's, Charles' or any other Right Winger's posts.

You're probably correct ... Gary used to post threads & comments very similar to what Danno posts now. Gary has toned down his rhetoric quite a bit, so he gets kudos for that, but I have yet to see him be critical of the VJ right (perhaps he has & I missed it).

My silence in those threads speaks volumes. I wouldn't care if Steven posted a few anti-right posts but he goes WAY overboard with the innuendo and outright lies he posts. To associate the right with murderers and to insinuate that the reps don't support the troops is way over the line. Correct me if I am wrong but I haven't seen very many posts from Danno or VW that tries to link the left with murderers or terrorists. If they have then I will denounce those posts right now. All I have seen is posts that criticize policies of the lefts positions. That is OK from either side IMO but Steven is downright mean and dishonest with his linkages.

You haven't seen any from me cause there are none. In fact, I rarely even post threads.

Danno starts many threads, you post responses to many threads (just clearing that up). Also you are proving Guano's point, whether you realize it or not, by blasting him & glossing over the antics of the VJ right (they are far from being innocent in the perpetual VJ war of words). Also are you VW? If you are I didn't know (just curious).

I'm not proving Bat Sh!t's point. He's proving mine. No one goes out of his way to malign conservatives like he does. If we do anything, it's posting rebuttals to challenge the foolishness in the anti-conservative threads. He's also proving the his side is still angry, divisive and less iterested in changing things for the better than they are in settling old scores.

None of this makes liberals look honest about their views being the best choice for a better democracy.

If White Supremacists are Right Wingers, then Al Qaeda members are Left Wingers.

They're more anarchist, than socialist - but yes.

Now you're getting it

I got it a looooooong time ago.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

This is a pretty bad thread to use to suggest that conservatives are being maligned

[nowhereman 1]

Both of you (Bat & Gary) have a point.. Guano posted a thread that obviously sheds the right in a bad light, but at the same time it is actual news. However you have the other VJers who post stuff that maligns the left. Both are one sided but I guess if you split the difference reality is somewhere in between.

I'm not holding breath for Gary to show this kind of outrage over Danno's, VW's, Bill's, Charles' or any other Right Winger's posts.

You're probably correct ... Gary used to post threads & comments very similar to what Danno posts now. Gary has toned down his rhetoric quite a bit, so he gets kudos for that, but I have yet to see him be critical of the VJ right (perhaps he has & I missed it).

My silence in those threads speaks volumes. I wouldn't care if Steven posted a few anti-right posts but he goes WAY overboard with the innuendo and outright lies he posts. To associate the right with murderers and to insinuate that the reps don't support the troops is way over the line. Correct me if I am wrong but I haven't seen very many posts from Danno or VW that tries to link the left with murderers or terrorists. If they have then I will denounce those posts right now. All I have seen is posts that criticize policies of the lefts positions. That is OK from either side IMO but Steven is downright mean and dishonest with his linkages.

You haven't seen any from me cause there are none. In fact, I rarely even post threads.

Danno starts many threads, you post responses to many threads (just clearing that up). Also you are proving Guano's point, whether you realize it or not, by blasting him & glossing over the antics of the VJ right (they are far from being innocent in the perpetual VJ war of words). Also are you VW? If you are I didn't know (just curious).

I'm not proving Bat Sh!t's point. He's proving mine. No one goes out of his way to malign conservatives like he does. If we do anything, it's posting rebuttals to challenge the foolishness in the anti-conservative threads. He's also proving the his side is still angry, divisive and less iterested in changing things for the better than they are in settling old scores.

None of this makes liberals look honest about their views being the best choice for a better democracy.

When you start denouncing the rhetoric, stereotyping & misrepresentation of facts by the VJ Right with the same assertiveness that you are denouncing "batshits" posts then you will have credibility... until then you are just a one-dimensional defender of the right.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

If White Supremacists are Right Wingers, then Al Qaeda members are Left Wingers.

They're more anarchist, than socialist - but yes.

Now you're getting it

I got it a looooooong time ago.

Then you accept that White Supremacists are part of the right wing?

[nowhereman 1]

don't know how to check name change history?

Apparently not

[nowhereman 1]

If White Supremacists are Right Wingers, then Al Qaeda members are Left Wingers.

They're more anarchist, than socialist - but yes.

Now you're getting it

I got it a looooooong time ago.

Then you accept that White Supremacists are part of the right wing?

White Supremacists are more fanatical than the Right Wing... they may have some beliefs in common but they are by definition extremists. They are different groups just like liberals & radicals are different groups. Think of it like the pH scale, with the extreme left being a 0-2 (highly acidic) and the extreme right being a 12-14 (basic). Liberals would be in the 3-5 range, moderates in the 6-8 range, and the right wing in the 9-11 range.

[Scott & Lai 12]

What exactly is a "Right Winger"? Is it supposed to be equivalent with Conservative? If not, what is the distinction?

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

The terms Right/Left wing are pretty broad and all encompassing. Extremists live within those broad terms - hard as it might be to admit that.

[Sofiyya 1,687]

The terms Right/Left wing are pretty broad and all encompassing. Extremists live within those broad terms - hard as it might be to admit that.

Who says?

[natty bumppo 297]

The terms Right/Left wing are pretty broad and all encompassing. Extremists live within those broad terms - hard as it might be to admit that.

Who says?

examples would be nice too ....