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Hi I have two questions about the phone bills we will use as evidence of our relationship.

One, is that my phone number, along with my moms, dads, and brothers are all listed on the bill as being under my fathers name. We have the family plan, so all 4 numbers are listed under the name of my dad. Should I/my dad write them a letter explaining this? Or would they just figure it out if I highlight the number thats mine and they see the calls going from that number to my fiancees country and I only hand in the call history of the number thats mine?

Two, is that my fiancee doesn't make much money at her job in Morocco to call me long distance, so all the calls are from me to her. Up to this point there is no record of her ever calling me (its been 6 months since I've been with her in person). Although now that it's summer and tourism is picking up she may be able to call me occasionally from a teleboutique. Is this going to be a problem at the interview if they see that there were barely any calls from her to me? Is there anything that I/my fiancee should do to prepare for this?

I plan on sending phone bills and emails with the original petition because I want the CO's to see stuff before they even interview her. But the only ones I have so far are just records of me calling her.

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Hi I have two questions about the phone bills we will use as evidence of our relationship.

One, is that my phone number, along with my moms, dads, and brothers are all listed on the bill as being under my fathers name. We have the family plan, so all 4 numbers are listed under the name of my dad. Should I/my dad write them a letter explaining this? Or would they just figure it out if I highlight the number thats mine and they see the calls going from that number to my fiancees country and I only hand in the call history of the number thats mine?

Two, is that my fiancee doesn't make much money at her job in Morocco to call me long distance, so all the calls are from me to her. Up to this point there is no record of her ever calling me (its been 6 months since I've been with her in person). Although now that it's summer and tourism is picking up she may be able to call me occasionally from a teleboutique. Is this going to be a problem at the interview if they see that there were barely any calls from her to me? Is there anything that I/my fiancee should do to prepare for this?

I plan on sending phone bills and emails with the original petition because I want the CO's to see stuff before they even interview her. But the only ones I have so far are just records of me calling her.

Initially, USCIS just wants to verify you met in person in the previous 2 years to sending in the petition.

So your evidence would work. (Umit and myself hardly call on the phone, we use messenger/cams, so I didn't even bother to send in phone bills).

At the consulate, they will want to see evidence of the relationship, letters, chat/email logs, things like that. If you did all the calling, that is not a problem.

My Advice is usually based on "Worst Case Scenario" and what is written in the rules/laws/instructions. That is the way I roll... -Protect your Status - file before your I-94 expires.

WARNING: Phrases in this post may sound meaner than they were intended to be. Read the Adjudicator's Field Manual from USCIS

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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Ukraine
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Hi I have two questions about the phone bills we will use as evidence of our relationship.

One, is that my phone number, along with my moms, dads, and brothers are all listed on the bill as being under my fathers name. We have the family plan, so all 4 numbers are listed under the name of my dad. Should I/my dad write them a letter explaining this? Or would they just figure it out if I highlight the number thats mine and they see the calls going from that number to my fiancees country and I only hand in the call history of the number thats mine?

Two, is that my fiancee doesn't make much money at her job in Morocco to call me long distance, so all the calls are from me to her. Up to this point there is no record of her ever calling me (its been 6 months since I've been with her in person). Although now that it's summer and tourism is picking up she may be able to call me occasionally from a teleboutique. Is this going to be a problem at the interview if they see that there were barely any calls from her to me? Is there anything that I/my fiancee should do to prepare for this?

I plan on sending phone bills and emails with the original petition because I want the CO's to see stuff before they even interview her. But the only ones I have so far are just records of me calling her.

No problems. Highlight the portion of the bill that is yours. Alla almost never "called me". I had much cheaper rates to call her so she would "ring my phone" and hang up, then I called her back. No problems at all.

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Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Morocco
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my fiance found a website he can get on from Morocco at the cyber, and he can text me for free. he was able to print up a log of when he had texted me. I don't think the CO looked at the list, but he did bring it. Perhaps your fiancee could do the same? I can find out the site, if you want.

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Hi I have two questions about the phone bills we will use as evidence of our relationship.

One, is that my phone number, along with my moms, dads, and brothers are all listed on the bill as being under my fathers name. We have the family plan, so all 4 numbers are listed under the name of my dad. Should I/my dad write them a letter explaining this? Or would they just figure it out if I highlight the number thats mine and they see the calls going from that number to my fiancees country and I only hand in the call history of the number thats mine?

Two, is that my fiancee doesn't make much money at her job in Morocco to call me long distance, so all the calls are from me to her. Up to this point there is no record of her ever calling me (its been 6 months since I've been with her in person). Although now that it's summer and tourism is picking up she may be able to call me occasionally from a teleboutique. Is this going to be a problem at the interview if they see that there were barely any calls from her to me? Is there anything that I/my fiancee should do to prepare for this?

I plan on sending phone bills and emails with the original petition because I want the CO's to see stuff before they even interview her. But the only ones I have so far are just records of me calling her.

No problems. Highlight the portion of the bill that is yours. Alla almost never "called me". I had much cheaper rates to call her so she would "ring my phone" and hang up, then I called her back. No problems at all.

Alexandra did the same...all I did was highlight what pertained to my calling her..no worries

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my fiance found a website he can get on from Morocco at the cyber, and he can text me for free. he was able to print up a log of when he had texted me. I don't think the CO looked at the list, but he did bring it. Perhaps your fiancee could do the same? I can find out the site, if you want.

hey, yeah i think i know what site youre talking about. she knows the site. she used it sometimes when i was over there. now she doesnt bother using it because we just always use msn, email, or the phone when we talk which is pretty much everyday anyway. thanks though :)

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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Ecuador
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You'll be dealing with one of the tougher consulates. You have an excellent chance to "front-load" your I-129F petition with more evidence than USCIS requires, which could pay off if you end up getting a tough CO at interview time. Be acutely aware that at some consulates, the COs will kick the interviewee out after a couple of minutes and refuse to accept evidence that was brought, and issue a 221(g) for "lack of proof of relationship"... but if evidence has been included in the materials that USCIS has seen, and has sent to the consulate, the consulate cannot deny its existence.

Definitely include your phone records (formatted in any way that works for you), and find a way (such as using a thick marking-pen on the first page of the printout) to note the total number of calls from you to her, and the time range (of months or years). I wish to highest heaven that I had done this in my own I-129F submission.

06-04-2007 = TSC stamps postal return-receipt for I-129f.

06-11-2007 = NOA1 date (unknown to me).

07-20-2007 = Phoned Immigration Officer; got WAC#; where's NOA1?

09-25-2007 = Touch (first-ever).

09-28-2007 = NOA1, 23 days after their 45-day promise to send it (grrrr).

10-20 & 11-14-2007 = Phoned ImmOffs; "still pending."

12-11-2007 = 180 days; file is "between workstations, may be early Jan."; touches 12/11 & 12/12.

12-18-2007 = Call; file is with Division 9 ofcr. (bckgrnd check); e-prompt to shake it; touch.

12-19-2007 = NOA2 by e-mail & web, dated 12-18-07 (187 days; 201 per VJ); in mail 12/24/07.

01-09-2008 = File from USCIS to NVC, 1-4-08; NVC creates file, 1/15/08; to consulate 1/16/08.

01-23-2008 = Consulate gets file; outdated Packet 4 mailed to fiancee 1/27/08; rec'd 3/3/08.

04-29-2008 = Fiancee's 4-min. consular interview, 8:30 a.m.; much evidence brought but not allowed to be presented (consul: "More proof! Second interview! Bring your fiance!").

05-05-2008 = Infuriating $12 call to non-English-speaking consulate appointment-setter.

05-06-2008 = Better $12 call to English-speaker; "joint" interview date 6/30/08 (my selection).

06-30-2008 = Stokes Interrogations w/Ecuadorian (not USC); "wait 2 weeks; we'll mail her."

07-2008 = Daily calls to DOS: "currently processing"; 8/05 = Phoned consulate, got Section Chief; wrote him.

08-07-08 = E-mail from consulate, promising to issue visa "as soon as we get her passport" (on 8/12, per DHL).

08-27-08 = Phoned consulate (they "couldn't find" our file); visa DHL'd 8/28; in hand 9/1; through POE on 10/9 with NO hassles(!).

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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Brazil
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We only sent one phone bill....along with our other proof of an ongoing relationship.

11/2004 - Met in Brazil

09/2006 - Apply for K1

03/2007 - K1 approved

04/2007 - Apply for AOS & EAD

07/2007 - EAD approved

01/2008 - Conditional Residency approved

11/2009 - Apply to remove conditions

02/2010 - Permanent Residency approved

11/2010 - Apply for Citizenship

03/2011 - Citizenship approved

07/2011 - Moved back to Brazil

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Filed: Country: Morocco
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You'll be dealing with one of the tougher consulates. You have an excellent chance to "front-load" your I-129F petition with more evidence than USCIS requires, which could pay off if you end up getting a tough CO at interview time. Be acutely aware that at some consulates, the COs will kick the interviewee out after a couple of minutes and refuse to accept evidence that was brought, and issue a 221(g) for "lack of proof of relationship"... but if evidence has been included in the materials that USCIS has seen, and has sent to the consulate, the consulate cannot deny its existence.

Definitely include your phone records (formatted in any way that works for you), and find a way (such as using a thick marking-pen on the first page of the printout) to note the total number of calls from you to her, and the time range (of months or years). I wish to highest heaven that I had done this in my own I-129F submission.

no doubt. im even submitting facebook messages between nisrine (my fiancee) and my mom talking about our relationship and how much we love each other (amongst other things). my goal is to make it where if the CO decides to deny her the visa for "lack of evidence of a valid relationship," they will get fired. lol

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