A mainstream UK political party is officially for whites only - that would never happen in Australia!

[The_Dude 1,142]

Wouldn't happen in Australia because they are already trying to get rid of all the Chinese and Indians. New Zealand is even further ahead than them.

These slanderous lies against God's chosen land will not stand!

God's chosen criminals

(For the benefit of the overly sensitive, I am kidding here)

[Trompe le Monde 1,107]

Wouldn't happen in Australia because they are already trying to get rid of all the Chinese and Indians. New Zealand is even further ahead than them.

These slanderous lies against God's chosen land will not stand!

There were apparently fewer votes cast for the BNP that in the 2004 election...people are fed up with Labour more than anything else, or just completely apathetic.

People who don't vote, don't count. You know that.

I know....which is sad, because this is the sort of thing that happens.

[Peikko 1,575]

Spoiling the ballot paper not allowed? That's even more outrageous. I don't have a problem with the idea of encouraging people off their behinds and down to the polls, but the option to choose no one (choose as in deliberately spoiling a paper as apposed to simply not bothering to vote which is in my opinion totally different) is fundamental to Democracy - in my opinion

[spookyturtle 9,466]

And I thought they were just a bunch of kangeroo buggerers.

[w¡n9Nµ7 §£@¥€r 123]

the option to choose no one ... is fundamental to Democracy - in my opinion

Of course that's your opinion. And that's also why you'll never get into Australia or be allowed to buy one of Sydney's famous 412K mansions.

[Peikko 1,575]

Possibly not, but I have insurgents planning my route, should I ever decide to infiltrate

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

... a lot of people who do vote BNP do so as a protest vote, not strictly because they believe in what the party stands for ...

Do you have polling data to back this up?

Not offhand - but there was an article I was reading the other day that polled people who voted BNP. Basically suggested that they were low income people hit hard by the recession and who didn't see any major differences between the two major parties.

That's the demographic I'd expect to vote for an outfit like this. But judging from what you've written about the article you read, it doesn't sound like it makes the case that they don't believe in what the BNP stands for.

So I have to ask, why do you believe that?

Some people do believe it, that's not in dispute.

[w¡n9Nµ7 §£@¥€r 123]

In the absence of any actual polling data, the only reasonable belief is that everyone who votes BNP shares the vision.

[almaty 19]

Wouldn't happen in Australia because they are already trying to get rid of all the Chinese and Indians. New Zealand is even further ahead than them.

These slanderous lies against God's chosen land will not stand!

There were apparently fewer votes cast for the BNP that in the 2004 election...people are fed up with Labour more than anything else, or just completely apathetic.

People who don't vote, don't count. You know that.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

In the absence of any actual polling data, the only reasonable belief is that everyone who votes BNP shares the vision.

This is what I was talking about - its based on a Yougov poll:

Channel 4 News has been given exclusive access to a unique YouGov poll on BNP voters and their attitudes. Here YouGov President Peter Kellner gives his views on the poll's findings.

The BNP won its first seats in the European parliament not because its supporters are all racist, but because many voters feel insecure and let down by the main parties.

This finding emerges from the largest election survey ever conducted in Britain. Last week YouGov questioned more than 32,000 electors in order to understand not only the people who voted Labour, Conservative and Liberal Democrat, but those who backed the Greens, Ukip and the BNP.

Our sample included almost 1,000 BNP voters, and much larger numbers of those who backed the other five parties. As our final prediction poll was the most accurate of all the pre-election surveys, with an average error of just one point, we are confident of the results from this very large sample.

First, who voted BNP? They were mainly men: their voted divided 61 per cent male, 39 per cent female. (Men comprise just 48 per cent in the electorate as a whole.)

They were also more working-class. In the country at large, professional workers outnumber manual workers by 20 per cent to 18 per cent. Among BNP voters the pattern is very different: 36 per cent manual workers, 11 per cent professionals.

One third of them read the Sun or Daily Star as against one in five adults generally; just 6 per cent of BNP voters read the upmarket papers (Times, Telegraph, Guardian etc), which is less than half the national average.

Yet the household income of the typical BNP voter (£27,000 a year) is only slightly below the national median (£29,000) – and not that far below that of a typical Conservative voter (£33,000).

It is not money that marks BNP voters apart as much as their insecurity. Just 19 per cent of BNP voters are "confident that my family will have the opportunities to prosper in the years ahead". This compares with 59 per cent of Labour voters, 47 per cent of Lib Dem and Green voters, and 42 per cent of Conservative voters.

Among Ukip voters the figure is also fairly low, at 28 per cent, which suggests that Ukip also picked up the votes of many who feel the traditional parties let them down – and not just on Europe.

Not surprisingly, BNP voters regard immigration as the top issue facing Britain. Fully 87 per cent of them told us it was one of their top three or four concerns. (This compares with a still-high 49 per cent among the public as a whole.)

But when people are shown the same list and asked which three or four issues "are the most important facing you and your family", the figure falls to 58 per cent. True, this is three times the national average of 20 per cent, yet it means that for almost half of BNP voters, immigration is NOT among the worries of day-to-day life.

We also find that most BNP voters do NOT subscribe to what might be described as "normal racist views". Just 44 per cent agreed with the party in rejecting the view that non-white citizens are just as British as white citizens.

Yet the feeling is widespread that white Britons get a raw deal. Seventy seven per cent of BNP voters think white people suffer unfair discrimination these days. But that is also the views of 40 per cent of the public as a whole.

The average British voter is more likely to think that discrimination afflicts white people than Muslim or non-white people. And only seven per cent of the public think white people benefit from unfair advantages, while more than one in three think Muslim and non-white people receive unfair help.

Thus the BNP is tapping into some very widely held views, such as the desire to stop all immigration, and the belief that local councils "normally allow immigrant families to jump the queue in allocating council homes" (87 per cent of BNP voters think this, but so does 56 per cent of the public as a whole).

Yet, depending on how the term "racist" is precisely defined, our survey suggests that the [racist] label applies to only around a half of BNP voters. On their own, these votes would not have been enough to give the BNP either of the seats they won last night.

There are two telling pieces of evidence that suggest wider causes of disenchantment. Seven out of 10 BNP voters (and almost as many Green and Ukip voters) think that "there is no real difference these between Britain’s three main parties".

But perhaps the most startling finding came when we tested anecdotal reports that many BNP voters were old Labour sympathisers who felt that the party no longer speaks up for them. It turns out to be true. As many as 59 per cent of BNP voters think that Labour "used to care about the concerns of people like me but doesn’t nowadays".

What is more worrying for Labour is that this sentiment is shared by millions of voters, way beyond the ranks of BNP voters. Overall, 63 per cent of the British public think Labour used to care about their concerns – and only 19 per cent think it does today.

In contrast, just 29 per cent think the Conservatives used to care about their concerns; this figure has climbed to 37 per cent who think they care in the Cameron era.

Yes, Labour has a problem with voters deserting the party for the BNP. But its far bigger problem as it heads towards the next general election is to extinguish the overwhelming public view, reinforced by the scandal over MPs’ allowances, that today’s Labour Party is no longer on the side of ordinary voters. And that, more than anything else, is why its vote collapsed to just 16 per cent in the Euro election.

View the full Yougov poll here.

[Heracles 417]

Well you know AJ there is currently a huge problem with Indians being bashed in Australia.

Guess what 'bro', it's not white Aussies doing it.

Edited June 11, 2009 by Constellation

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Well you know AJ there is currently a huge problem with Indians being bashed in Australia.

Guess what 'bro', it's not white Aussies doing it.

Who is doing it?

Don't Australians live in Australia?

[scandal 951]

Well you know AJ there is currently a huge problem with Indians being bashed in Australia.

Guess what 'bro', it's not white Aussies doing it.

He's here! He's here!

Welcome to the "All things are great in Oz, mate!" thread

Let the party begin. :dance:

[spookyturtle 9,466]

Well you know AJ there is currently a huge problem with Indians being bashed in Australia.

Guess what 'bro', it's not white Aussies doing it.

He's here! He's here!

Welcome to the "All things are great in Oz, mate!" thread

Let the party begin. :dance:

But don't forget how much he loves America and is more patriotic than anyone here.

[Heracles 417]

Well you know AJ there is currently a huge problem with Indians being bashed in Australia.

Guess what 'bro', it's not white Aussies doing it.

Who is doing it?

Don't Australians live in Australia?

I could say it, thought it might offend some people. You know, stereotype and all.

Edited June 11, 2009 by Constellation