I think I have to cancel my k1 petition, HELP!

[Aniomaman 0]

Thanks everyone for your quick responses. I was told that she was going to be denied by an attorney who turned up in a google search on the subject, he said it would be denied without a question...the only way to avoid it would be to withdraw and refile using the coporate name of the company who owns the bar...I have since consulted several other attorneys who have told me it will not be immediatley denied, I am planning on retaining her (the attorney) services, which to me seems prudent at this juncture...and she only worked there for 3 mnths until we met (outside of the bar), and no she never collected any bar fines...if that seems a bit defensive, I guess it is, and that's because I love her with my whole heart. 1 more thing, the first lawyer wanted $2800, the one I decided to go with, who has just helped a couple in a similar situation as my own, only requires $1000...

Bar fines don't have anyting do with a NBI record Bar Fines is an old term used by the bar it's slef. The girls work in the bar as dancers for FREE but when a John wish to take them out of the bar then the bar would fine her money, part of the cost of service. So have her get a NBI Cert. 1st.

She received her NBI 2 days ago...no problems...

If she's got no problems with her records, why then are you worried? Since you are trying to convince us she is a good person then am sure she can do a good job at her interview. Retaining a lawyer in my opinion wouldn't do much good no matter how much they charge. With a clean record, she can argue the fact that she was only a hostess at the bar. All the best.

[daboyz 36]

I know in Thailand if you even mention the word "bar" you can forget it. I know it's not a cause for denial, but they'll find some reason to deny, or at the very least make it really really difficult.

[Jauque 1]

I just found out last night that my fiancee's visa will be denied because she used to work at a go go bar, I have been informed that if I withdraw the current petition, I can file a new one that will reflect on the situation better. We don't need judgement, just advice. We are both good people, she did what she had to in order to feed her baby after the father beat her nearly to death and left them in the street. I don't know what to do now, there is so much at stake here.

Who told you that working at a go-go bar was ground for k-1 denial? Is this an issue because it wasn't included on G325A? I wouldn't cancel your petition at this point that may cause more problems than it solves. If the employment was in the past five years then when she signed her G325A she made quite a big boo-boo by intentionally lieing. It might be best to stick with your current petition and clarify once it gets to the embassy, if she wasn't doing anything "illegal" than clarifying an employment error isn't going to be an issue.

Good luck.

[rebeccajo 14]

Yes it can matter.

I almost hate to resurrect this thread because it actually cost this website dearly - in the form of a very valuable contributor who wrote in his usual articulate, straight-forward manner.

It's a good thread. I'd encourage everybody to try and read past the BS in it.

http://www.visajourney.com/forums/index.ph...=82097&st=0

[msu17 0]

Thanks everyone for your quick responses. I was told that she was going to be denied by an attorney who turned up in a google search on the subject, he said it would be denied without a question...the only way to avoid it would be to withdraw and refile using the coporate name of the company who owns the bar...I have since consulted several other attorneys who have told me it will not be immediatley denied, I am planning on retaining her (the attorney) services, which to me seems prudent at this juncture...and she only worked there for 3 mnths until we met (outside of the bar), and no she never collected any bar fines...if that seems a bit defensive, I guess it is, and that's because I love her with my whole heart. 1 more thing, the first lawyer wanted $2800, the one I decided to go with, who has just helped a couple in a similar situation as my own, only requires $1000...

I think getting a lawyer in this situation is a good idea. Make sure, if you haven't already, that you have checked her out and she has plenty of experience with K visas from the PI. I've heard the price of lawyers being from around 1000-3500$, so she seems on the lower end of normal.

I don't think you sounded that defensive, but I totally understand why

[chizkeyk 0]

Working in agogobar doesnt entail that your fiancee is a prostitute. Evenso, it's hard to tell that a woman was engaged in prostitution unless otherwise she was charged or arrested. And even if she had an arrest record, but had proven otherwise in a court proceedings, then, I guess, there is no way her petition will be denied.

I believe, a mere hearsay of prostitution will not impact to her visa denial. Goodluck.

I just found out last night that my fiancee's visa will be denied because she used to work at a go go bar, I have been informed that if I withdraw the current petition, I can file a new one that will reflect on the situation better. We don't need judgement, just advice. We are both good people, she did what she had to in order to feed her baby after the father beat her nearly to death and left them in the street. I don't know what to do now, there is so much at stake here.

Who informed you? Find out if its a legitimate information.

[Road 2 Peace Arch 0]

I think getting a lawyer in this situation is a good idea. Make sure, if you haven't already, that you have checked her out and she has plenty of experience with K visas from the PI. I've heard the price of lawyers being from around 1000-3500$, so she seems on the lower end of normal.

I don't think you sounded that defensive, but I totally understand why

I wouldnt cancel anything and I would proceed full speed ahead. If her NBI is clean (and she faxed a copy to you for you to see) then its going to be a matter between you/her and the Manila Embassy. I can imagine that Embassy being a bit a of a problem since they will know about the Go-Go Bars in Manila and have heard all the stories before. But, if she was legit there (and many are) she has an opportunity to be successful. I wonder if there are Immigration Attorney's in Manila that also specialize in K1 matters that you could have on retainer just in case.

I wish you the best of luck.

[daboyz 36]

Working in agogobar doesnt entail that your fiancee is a prostitute. Evenso, it's hard to tell that a woman was engaged in prostitution unless otherwise she was charged or arrested. And even if she had an arrest record, but had proven otherwise in a court proceedings, then, I guess, there is no way her petition will be denied.

I believe, a mere hearsay of prostitution will not impact to her visa denial. Goodluck.

I just found out last night that my fiancee's visa will be denied because she used to work at a go go bar, I have been informed that if I withdraw the current petition, I can file a new one that will reflect on the situation better. We don't need judgement, just advice. We are both good people, she did what she had to in order to feed her baby after the father beat her nearly to death and left them in the street. I don't know what to do now, there is so much at stake here.

Who informed you? Find out if its a legitimate information.

Like I was saying. If they even smell anything prostitution like going on, get ready for trouble. COs do not need convictions to deny. By that logic they could say at the interview, "I was a prostitute, but I never got caught." Do you think the SO would get the visa? I doubt it.

The Consulates in Manila and Bangkok especially keep their eye out for these sort of things. If the girl show's up for the interview in tight jeans and high heels, forget it. The CO will make up some proof of relationship excuse or whatever. Or maybe they'll just put the SO in some kind of long term AP. No telling. Best practice is to avoid even going down that road.

[DEDixon 39]

Working in a bar is one thing, working in a bar that is beyond a doubt a place that hookers and johns hang out is a different thing.

The last thing the CO wants is a "potential" craigslist erotic services poster in the USA.

[daboyz 36]

Working in a bar is one thing, working in a bar that is beyond a doubt a place that hookers and johns hang out is a different thing.

The last thing the CO wants is a "potential" craigslist erotic services poster in the USA.

Agreed. Problem is do they embassy people know the difference.

[L179 1]

I doubt working at a bar would deny the application.

surely the USCIS reps also go to bars to have a drink or two after working all day on petitions.

they surely understand the need to have a server/hostess.

[daboyz 36]

I doubt working at a bar would deny the application.

surely the USCIS reps also go to bars to have a drink or two after working all day on petitions.

they surely understand the need to have a server/hostess.

That logic works at probably 95% of the countries in the world. Not Thailand, and probably not Manila. Sad fact that it is, it still remains a fact.

USCIS reps have nothing to do with it. It is all about Consular Officials that work for DOS and live in country. USCIS does not perform visa interviews in foreign countries.

[JimVaPhuong 4,863]

I doubt working at a bar would deny the application.

surely the USCIS reps also go to bars to have a drink or two after working all day on petitions.

they surely understand the need to have a server/hostess.

There is a huge difference between a bar maid in an American bar and a girl working in a Go-Go bar in the Philippines. These bars are well known to sex tourists as places to pick up hookers, and many of the girls who work there are 'available for a fee'. daboyz is right on this one. If the embassy finds out she was working in a Go-Go bar then her chances of getting visa drop dramatically.

[ready4ONE 5,400]

Thanks everyone for your quick responses. I was told that she was going to be denied by an attorney who turned up in a google search on the subject, he said it would be denied without a question...the only way to avoid it would be to withdraw and refile using the coporate name of the company who owns the bar...I have since consulted several other attorneys who have told me it will not be immediatley denied, I am planning on retaining her (the attorney) services, which to me seems prudent at this juncture...and she only worked there for 3 mnths until we met (outside of the bar), and no she never collected any bar fines...if that seems a bit defensive, I guess it is, and that's because I love her with my whole heart. 1 more thing, the first lawyer wanted $2800, the one I decided to go with, who has just helped a couple in a similar situation as my own, only requires $1000...

Bar fines don't have anyting do with a NBI record Bar Fines is an old term used by the bar it's slef. The girls work in the bar as dancers for FREE but when a John wish to take them out of the bar then the bar would fine her money, part of the cost of service. So have her get a NBI Cert. 1st.

She received her NBI 2 days ago...no problems...

If her NBI record is clear, don't bother hiring this attorney as likely SHE is wrong about your 'certain outcome of denial.'

If you do get denied, then fork over the dough. But her clear NBI clearance carries the most weight, unless she goes to the interview and says "I was a prostitute." Or you put "prostitute" under the job description on your K-1 application. Make sure you go over with her what she will say if asked about that particular job, but don't get too worked up at this point.

Personally, I remember how easy it is to worry, but try not to! Good luck, and hang on for the interview.

[RISURF 0]

Sorry to hear that. Although I read many of the replies to your e-mail, I didnt see one that really answered your concern...In fact many of the folks "couldnt believe" this was happening. I can and I will offer you (and others) some insight. As I have lived overseas, I saw many Americans find their love in other countries. When the Visa process starts the embassy will do a background check. My friend married (in Korea) a Filipina. When they eventually began the visa process - they asked questions about how they met and where they worked. The Filipina wife neglected to indicate she worked at a juicy bar (and that is also where they met). The US denied her a Visa because she did not indicte she worked there as she was somewhat embarrassed. The denial delayed the process about 8 months. They had to resubmitt all over again! BOTTOM LINE: Dont lie! PS: They also visited her barangay to establish she infacted was from there! Best of Luck - !!!