'Gay' gene claim suddenly vanishes

[spookyturtle 9,466]

I am what I am! dont matter if I'm ** or not! I LIVE!

That's tellin' them.

[Pinocchio Liberal 268]

I am what I am! dont matter if I'm ** or not! I LIVE!

That's tellin' them.

I know!

[spookyturtle 9,466]

I am what I am! dont matter if I'm ** or not! I LIVE!

That's tellin' them.

I know!

The bunch of Obama teat suckin' tailpipe pluggin' freeloaders.

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

Ain't these Ghey Genes?

Edited June 5, 2009 by Mister_Bill

[Pinocchio Liberal 268]

I am what I am! dont matter if I'm ** or not! I LIVE!

That's tellin' them.

I know!

The bunch of Obama teat suckin' tailpipe pluggin' freeloaders.

The free ride is gettin very very expensive.

Edited June 5, 2009 by ={Rogue}=

[Danno 1,228]

How is your right to be married infringed by the right of a homosexual couple to be married?

How is "your" right to be married infringed by a brother and sister getting married?

.. or 3 men... or even some commune all joining together as a "family"?

Why do you have the right to impose your morals on them>?

Tks,Tsk,Tsk MC

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

** club? Where do you get this stuff from? Danno, you have a religious requirement to find homosexuality obnoxious. That's quite fine, your sexuality is not in question.

My opinion on the topic is hardly based on religion.

If your opinion is not shaped by religion, then why do you care what gay people do? It doesn't effect you, so why bother?

How my opinion if formed is not important, the fact that I, as a part of this country have an opinion and a right to voice it is.

This is my country too and the direction it goes in does effect me.

Why would you be against bestiality... it does not effect you?

Why would you be against abolishing the minimum wage if it does not effect you?

Why would you be against gun control, slavery, underage drinking if it has no effect on you?

The truth is, all these things effect us someone we know ...or our idea of the type of country we want to live in.

We don't always get what we want but if we let others "shut us down", a small minority can make changes, the majority does not want.... in fact, isn't the the plan?

NOw let me ask you;

How does it hurt you if 3 men marry?

How does it effect you if a brother and sister marry?

What business is it of yours if a Father and daughter are to wed?

The strength of our society is directly connected to stable families raising stable children.

There is absolutely no way you can claim that more alternative marriages will follow gays.. and why shouldn't it.

If two men can marry,.... for God sakes how can you say NO to a man and 2 women?

Get a list of countries where ** Marriage is legal ... and I suspect (thought I have not checked in detail) that in almost every case these are countries and cultures which are dying, they are not even producing enough children to replace the parents. Demographic trends show the future is not bright for almost all these countries.

I AM NOT CLAIMING THIS IS DUE TO GAY MARRIAGE, but I do suggest Gay marriage is spreading across a dying carcass. Those replacing them have a whole nuther idea about it.

Well it kind of is relevant is if you're making a direct claim that your opinion is not rooted in religion. If you can't articulate your reasons - how do you know what its based on?

The other examples you brought up (beastiality, slavery, underage drinking etc etc) are united only by the spurious premise that people object to these things but that they don't affect them. That's just flat out wrong in most of those examples - but regardless, you premise completely ignores the nuances of the arguments that pertain to them.

Edited June 5, 2009 by Private Pike

[Pinocchio Liberal 268]

** club? Where do you get this stuff from? Danno, you have a religious requirement to find homosexuality obnoxious. That's quite fine, your sexuality is not in question.

My opinion on the topic is hardly based on religion.

If your opinion is not shaped by religion, then why do you care what gay people do? It doesn't effect you, so why bother?

How my opinion if formed is not important, the fact that I, as a part of this country have an opinion and a right to voice it is.

This is my country too and the direction it goes in does effect me.

Why would you be against bestiality... it does not effect you?

Why would you be against abolishing the minimum wage if it does not effect you?

Why would you be against gun control, slavery, underage drinking if it has no effect on you?

The truth is, all these things effect us someone we know ...or our idea of the type of country we want to live in.

We don't always get what we want but if we let others "shut us down", a small minority can make changes, the majority does not want.... in fact, isn't the the plan?

NOw let me ask you;

How does it hurt you if 3 men marry?

How does it effect you if a brother and sister marry?

What business is it of yours if a Father and daughter are to wed?

The strength of our society is directly connected to stable families raising stable children.

There is absolutely no way you can claim that more alternative marriages will follow gays.. and why shouldn't it.

If two men can marry,.... for God sakes how can you say NO to a man and 2 women?

Get a list of countries where ** Marriage is legal ... and I suspect (thought I have not checked in detail) that in almost every case these are countries and cultures which are dying, they are not even producing enough children to replace the parents. Demographic trends show the future is not bright for almost all these countries.

I AM NOT CLAIMING THIS IS DUE TO GAY MARRIAGE, but I do suggest Gay marriage is spreading across a dying carcass. Those replacing them have a whole nuther idea about it.

Well it kind of is relevant is if you're making a direct claim that your opinion is not rooted in religion. If you can't articulate your reasons - how do you know what its based on?

The other examples you brought up (beastiality, slavery, underage drinking etc etc) are united only by the spurious premise that people object to these things but that they don't affect them. That's just flat out wrong in most of those examples - but regardless, you premise completely ignores the nuances of the arguments that pertain to them.

Yeah! KIND OF!

[Peikko 1,575]

How is your right to be married infringed by the right of a homosexual couple to be married?

How is "your" right to be married infringed by a brother and sister getting married?

.. or 3 men... or even some commune all joining together as a "family"?

Why do you have the right to impose your morals on them>?

Tks,Tsk,Tsk MC

The are not being infringed, I don't have a right to impose my morality on them. However, Danno, that's not the problem with those types of relationships, now is it?

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

How is your right to be married infringed by the right of a homosexual couple to be married?

How is "your" right to be married infringed by a brother and sister getting married?

.. or 3 men... or even some commune all joining together as a "family"?

Why do you have the right to impose your morals on them>?

Tks,Tsk,Tsk MC

The issues pertaining to plural marriage have been articulated a number of times in a number of different threads over months and months - yet it just doesn't seem to convince you. Leaving aside the emotional aspect of it - there are huge (seriously HUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUGEEEEEE) practical barriers to facilitating it and integrating it into our framework of laws. You don't need to think very hard to imagine what those might be (and none of which apply to homosexual marriage). The only examples we have in our society are derived from patriarchal religious cults - true plural marriage just doesn't exist. More to the point it doesn't exist on a large enough scale that political pressure is being brought to bear to recognise it.

In short - there is no debate on the issue. No debate - no change.

As to incest relationships - the dynamics in those relationships are very complex and there is at least one psychological syndrome that can create an intense physical/sexual attraction between siblings who were separated at birth. There was actually a documentary on it the other week. As with plural marriage the numbers of people involved in incest relationships is very small, and (again) there is no debate on the issue to force a chance in society.

Again - no debate = no change.

You seem to be suggesting that in order for gay marriage to be legalised everything else must be legalised at the same time. Do you really (honestly) think that this is a reasonable argument?

** club? Where do you get this stuff from? Danno, you have a religious requirement to find homosexuality obnoxious. That's quite fine, your sexuality is not in question.

My opinion on the topic is hardly based on religion.

If your opinion is not shaped by religion, then why do you care what gay people do? It doesn't effect you, so why bother?

How my opinion if formed is not important, the fact that I, as a part of this country have an opinion and a right to voice it is.

This is my country too and the direction it goes in does effect me.

Why would you be against bestiality... it does not effect you?

Why would you be against abolishing the minimum wage if it does not effect you?

Why would you be against gun control, slavery, underage drinking if it has no effect on you?

The truth is, all these things effect us someone we know ...or our idea of the type of country we want to live in.

We don't always get what we want but if we let others "shut us down", a small minority can make changes, the majority does not want.... in fact, isn't the the plan?

NOw let me ask you;

How does it hurt you if 3 men marry?

How does it effect you if a brother and sister marry?

What business is it of yours if a Father and daughter are to wed?

The strength of our society is directly connected to stable families raising stable children.

There is absolutely no way you can claim that more alternative marriages will follow gays.. and why shouldn't it.

If two men can marry,.... for God sakes how can you say NO to a man and 2 women?

Get a list of countries where ** Marriage is legal ... and I suspect (thought I have not checked in detail) that in almost every case these are countries and cultures which are dying, they are not even producing enough children to replace the parents. Demographic trends show the future is not bright for almost all these countries.

I AM NOT CLAIMING THIS IS DUE TO GAY MARRIAGE, but I do suggest Gay marriage is spreading across a dying carcass. Those replacing them have a whole nuther idea about it.

Well it kind of is relevant is if you're making a direct claim that your opinion is not rooted in religion. If you can't articulate your reasons - how do you know what its based on?

The other examples you brought up (beastiality, slavery, underage drinking etc etc) are united only by the spurious premise that people object to these things but that they don't affect them. That's just flat out wrong in most of those examples - but regardless, you premise completely ignores the nuances of the arguments that pertain to them.

Yeah! KIND OF!

Thanks Marc, glad you agree.

Lets hope Danno can fill in the blanks for us.

[Pinocchio Liberal 268]

If you and Cleo get divorced will that mean you will still be brother and sister?

[spookyturtle 9,466]

Danno isn't gay, is he?

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

If you and Cleo get divorced will that mean you will still be brother and sister?

Blood is blood, and water is water, you know that!

[jundp 191]

The strength of our society is directly connected to stable families raising stable children.

What is your position on divorce?

Or people who choose not to have/cannot have children?

Ain't these Ghey Genes?

Nah, that's just what the teen emo boys are wearing these days. Srsly. Only their boxers hang out the back because they feel the need to buckle their pants under their butts.

[nowhereman 1]

I fully support homosexuality... as long as its two hot lesbians!