Divorce decree

[Jeff B. 0]

My fiance in China just got her divorce decree translated and certified yesterday and she sent it to me via email. It is ok to print that and use it or does she have to send me a copy in the mail? Thanks to all Jeff

[Gary and Alla 3,694]

My fiance in China just got her divorce decree translated and certified yesterday and she sent it to me via email. It is ok to print that and use it or does she have to send me a copy in the mail? Thanks to all Jeff

If it is a clear and legible copy when it prints and IF the certification stamp, court filing stamp or whatever makes it "official" is clearly visible, then it will be fine BUT the translation needs to be an original, so kind of a moot point.

[Jeff B. 0]

My fiance in China just got her divorce decree translated and certified yesterday and she sent it to me via email. It is ok to print that and use it or does she have to send me a copy in the mail? Thanks to all Jeff

If it is a clear and legible copy when it prints and IF the certification stamp, court filing stamp or whatever makes it "official" is clearly visible, then it will be fine BUT the translation needs to be an original, so kind of a moot point.

Thanks...everything is nice and legible but the certification stamp is red and if I print it out Im sure it will be in black and white

[YuAndDan 153]

My fiance in China just got her divorce decree translated and certified yesterday and she sent it to me via email. It is ok to print that and use it or does she have to send me a copy in the mail? Thanks to all Jeff

If it is a clear and legible copy when it prints and IF the certification stamp, court filing stamp or whatever makes it "official" is clearly visible, then it will be fine BUT the translation needs to be an original, so kind of a moot point.

Thanks...everything is nice and legible but the certification stamp is red and if I print it out Im sure it will be in black and white

Actuly they both can be photocopies. This was the case for us when filing for a visa, and when adjusting status, NOT aproblem.

I highly recommend that you do a few things before filing the I-129F.

Visit and join "A Candle for Love" look for topics about "Front Loading" This may save you from dealing with the Nightmare of dealing with a denial at the consulate.

Guangzhou tends to deny visas to those who are un-prepared.

http://candleforlove.com

[Gary and Alla 3,694]

My fiance in China just got her divorce decree translated and certified yesterday and she sent it to me via email. It is ok to print that and use it or does she have to send me a copy in the mail? Thanks to all Jeff

If it is a clear and legible copy when it prints and IF the certification stamp, court filing stamp or whatever makes it "official" is clearly visible, then it will be fine BUT the translation needs to be an original, so kind of a moot point.

Thanks...everything is nice and legible but the certification stamp is red and if I print it out Im sure it will be in black and white

Actuly they both can be photocopies. This was the case for us when filing for a visa, and when adjusting status, NOT aproblem.

I highly recommend that you do a few things before filing the I-129F.

Visit and join "A Candle for Love" look for topics about "Front Loading" This may save you from dealing with the Nightmare of dealing with a denial at the consulate.

Guangzhou tends to deny visas to those who are un-prepared.

http://candleforlove.com

I shall defer to Yu and Dan on this matter. It was my understanding translations must be original. But here we have a report of actual experience and I will always go with that.

[YuAndDan 153]

I shall defer to Yu and Dan on this matter. It was my understanding translations must be original. But here we have a report of actual experience and I will always go with that.

Per USCIS:

• Please submit certified translations for all foreign language documents. The translator must certify that s/he is competent to translate and that the translation is accurate.

  The certification format should include the certifier's name, signature, address, and date of certification. A suggested format is:

  Certification by Translator

  I [typed name], certify that I am fluent (conversant) in the English and ________ languages, and that the above/attached document is an accurate translation of the document attached entitled ______________________________.

  Signature_________________________________

  Date Typed Name

  Address

• USCIS no longer routinely requires submission of original documents or "certified copies." Instead, ordinary legible photocopies of such documents (including naturalization certificates and alien registration cards) will be acceptable for initial filing and approval of petitions and applications.

http://www.uscis.gov/portal/site/uscis/men...00045f3d6a1RCRD

When you get these things from China, the document and translation are bound together, so simply photocopy the doc and translation and send the copy to USCIS.

[pushbrk 12,883]

I shall defer to Yu and Dan on this matter. It was my understanding translations must be original. But here we have a report of actual experience and I will always go with that.

Per USCIS:

• Please submit certified translations for all foreign language documents. The translator must certify that s/he is competent to translate and that the translation is accurate.

  The certification format should include the certifier's name, signature, address, and date of certification. A suggested format is:

  Certification by Translator

  I [typed name], certify that I am fluent (conversant) in the English and ________ languages, and that the above/attached document is an accurate translation of the document attached entitled ______________________________.

  Signature_________________________________

  Date Typed Name

  Address

• USCIS no longer routinely requires submission of original documents or "certified copies." Instead, ordinary legible photocopies of such documents (including naturalization certificates and alien registration cards) will be acceptable for initial filing and approval of petitions and applications.

http://www.uscis.gov/portal/site/uscis/men...00045f3d6a1RCRD

When you get these things from China, the document and translation are bound together, so simply photocopy the doc and translation and send the copy to USCIS.

Right, it's a multiple page bound booklet containing a copy of the original document, it's translation and certification of the translation. If each page of the booklet including the cover are photocopied or scanned and emailed, that will be fine for a K1 case or any petition filing. For a CR1 or IR1 case though, NVC will request the original document, so you send the actual booklet. K1 beneficiaries should carry the originals to the interview just in case the CO wants to inspect them.

USCIS will actually accept the kind of translations Gary mentions but the Guangzhou Consulate will not. Always find out the Conslate's requirements regardless of what USCIS says because they are often different.

Edited June 3, 2009 by pushbrk

[Gary and Alla 3,694]

I shall defer to Yu and Dan on this matter. It was my understanding translations must be original. But here we have a report of actual experience and I will always go with that.

Per USCIS:

• Please submit certified translations for all foreign language documents. The translator must certify that s/he is competent to translate and that the translation is accurate.

  The certification format should include the certifier's name, signature, address, and date of certification. A suggested format is:

  Certification by Translator

  I [typed name], certify that I am fluent (conversant) in the English and ________ languages, and that the above/attached document is an accurate translation of the document attached entitled ______________________________.

  Signature_________________________________

  Date Typed Name

  Address

• USCIS no longer routinely requires submission of original documents or "certified copies." Instead, ordinary legible photocopies of such documents (including naturalization certificates and alien registration cards) will be acceptable for initial filing and approval of petitions and applications.

http://www.uscis.gov/portal/site/uscis/men...00045f3d6a1RCRD

When you get these things from China, the document and translation are bound together, so simply photocopy the doc and translation and send the copy to USCIS.

Right, it's a multiple page bound booklet containing a copy of the original document, it's translation and certification of the translation. If each page of the booklet including the cover are photocopied or scanned and emailed, that will be fine for a K1 case or any petition filing. For a CR1 or IR1 case though, NVC will request the original document, so you send the actual booklet. K1 beneficiaries should carry the originals to the interview just in case the CO wants to inspect them.

USCIS will actually accept the kind of translations Gary mentions but the Guangzhou Consulate will not. Always find out the Conslate's requirements regardless of what USCIS says because they are often different.

Actually I think it was Yu and Dan that "mentioned" the copies. I see this now, thank you. I was confusing consulate requirements with USCIS.

[pushbrk 12,883]

I shall defer to Yu and Dan on this matter. It was my understanding translations must be original. But here we have a report of actual experience and I will always go with that.

Per USCIS:

• Please submit certified translations for all foreign language documents. The translator must certify that s/he is competent to translate and that the translation is accurate.

  The certification format should include the certifier's name, signature, address, and date of certification. A suggested format is:

  Certification by Translator

  I [typed name], certify that I am fluent (conversant) in the English and ________ languages, and that the above/attached document is an accurate translation of the document attached entitled ______________________________.

  Signature_________________________________

  Date Typed Name

  Address

• USCIS no longer routinely requires submission of original documents or "certified copies." Instead, ordinary legible photocopies of such documents (including naturalization certificates and alien registration cards) will be acceptable for initial filing and approval of petitions and applications.

http://www.uscis.gov/portal/site/uscis/men...00045f3d6a1RCRD

When you get these things from China, the document and translation are bound together, so simply photocopy the doc and translation and send the copy to USCIS.

Right, it's a multiple page bound booklet containing a copy of the original document, it's translation and certification of the translation. If each page of the booklet including the cover are photocopied or scanned and emailed, that will be fine for a K1 case or any petition filing. For a CR1 or IR1 case though, NVC will request the original document, so you send the actual booklet. K1 beneficiaries should carry the originals to the interview just in case the CO wants to inspect them.

USCIS will actually accept the kind of translations Gary mentions but the Guangzhou Consulate will not. Always find out the Conslate's requirements regardless of what USCIS says because they are often different.

Actually I think it was Yu and Dan that "mentioned" the copies. I see this now, thank you. I was confusing consulate requirements with USCIS.

It's a good discussion because it's a common error. The extremes are the Consulates like Guangzhou that require a specific official agency to do the translations and many Consulates in Spanish speaking countries that will accept documents in the local language. Of course, the middle ground is those Consulates that mirror the USCIS requirements. When the Consulate's requirements exceed those of USCIS, it's best to submit (to USCIS) translations the Consulate will eventually accept, so you don't have to translate them twice.