Biggest F*&C!K* UP EVER in history of VISA JOURNEY. HELP.

[Twisted K 2]

Sorry for the situation

[JimVaPhuong 4,863]

Perhaps a copy of the death certificate would help her case as well. I would like to think the US Consulate in HCM would be sympathetic towards an event like that.

Wow! You used "US Consulate in HCM" and "sympathetic" in the same sentence. I think that's the first time I've ever seen that here!

I hope you realize I'm just teasing. Please don't take it personally. The US Consulate in HCM is known to be one of the top 5 toughest consulates in the world.

[PeterFB 0]

Jonas

I can understand how this happened. Family tragedies are very emotional and sometimes it's hard to think and make sure you're doing everything right.

There's not much to say that others have already said about what to do. HCMC Consulate is the only hope, and if they understand, they'll do the right thing.

Good luck and you have our prayers.....

Peter and Thi

I-129F Sent : 2007-05-26

I-129F NOA1 : 2007-06-11

I-129F RFE(s) :

RFE Reply(s) :

I-129F NOA2 : 2007-10-26

Touched: 2007-11-02

NVC Recieved: 2007-11-16

Consulate recieved ??????

Packet 3 sent 2007-12-11

Packet 3 received 2007-12-24

Packet 3 returned 2007-12-28

Packet 4 sent 2008-1-14

Email Reply with Interview Date 2008-1-23

Interview Date 2008-2-27

Passed Interview 2008-02-27

Visa Pick Up Date 2008-3-05

Received Visa 2008-2-29 (called to pick up earlier)

POE 2008-3-05 Los Angeles

Wedding 2008-4-26

Filed AOS 2009-1-2

NOA 1 2009-1-8

Peter Nguyen Brunner born 2009-1-12

Advance Parole recieved 2009-3-27

EAD recieved 2009-3-11

AOS Interview 2009-5-20----Approved!!!!

[rin and john 71]

Contact the consulate. They have the authority to help you.

http://travel.state.gov/visa/laws/telegram...grams_1437.html

"N6.3 Reissuance of K-1 Visa

If a K-1 visa, valid for a single entry and a 6-month period, has already been used for admission into the United States and the alien fiance(e) has returned abroad prior to the marriage, the consular officer may issue a new K-1 visa, provided that the period of validity does not exceed the 90th day after the date of initial admission of the alien on the original K visa and provided also that the petitioner and beneficiary still intend and are free to marry. The alien''s return to the United States and marriage to the petitioner must take place within 90 days from the date of the original admission into the United States in K-1 status."

[RalphandHanh 1]

WOW. Did we screw up - BIG TIME. Please, no harassment...we already want to hang ourselves - just help, if possible!

Finally Phuong got the pink in HCMC. She got here to the U.S., and as soon as she touched down, her mom got deathly ill. In a panic, I sent her back to VN without checking the rules about that... now, they won't let her back to the U.S.

Someone tell me that our stupid not reading or thinking of rules can be fixed - or are we screwed?? I can't believe we did this... is there any way to explain we were just hyper, excited, confused and didn't realize she couldn't come right back to me? (we didn't marry yet - she was only in the states a few days!!!! and we are still within the 3 month period...HELP!!!!!!!!!!)

HELP. I think we may have ruined our lives.

Jonas

Any update? What's going on?

[betazed 0]

Perhaps a copy of the death certificate would help her case as well. I would like to think the US Consulate in HCM would be sympathetic towards an event like that.

Wow! You used "US Consulate in HCM" and "sympathetic" in the same sentence. I think that's the first time I've ever seen that here!

I hope you realize I'm just teasing. Please don't take it personally. The US Consulate in HCM is known to be one of the top 5 toughest consulates in the world.

Even though my ethnic roots are from VN/Cambodia, I was born & raised in Canada. Thus, the polite optimism

Ah, that sucks that it's a tough Consulate. I wonder if history has anything to do with it.

We're all looking forward to updates on this re-issuance situation.

Edited June 7, 2009 by betazed

[JimVaPhuong 4,863]

Perhaps a copy of the death certificate would help her case as well. I would like to think the US Consulate in HCM would be sympathetic towards an event like that.

Wow! You used "US Consulate in HCM" and "sympathetic" in the same sentence. I think that's the first time I've ever seen that here!

I hope you realize I'm just teasing. Please don't take it personally. The US Consulate in HCM is known to be one of the top 5 toughest consulates in the world.

Even though my ethnic roots are from VN/Cambodia, I was born & raised in Canada. Thus, the polite optimism

Ah, that sucks that it's a tough Consulate. I wonder if history has anything to do with it.

We're all looking forward to updates on this re-issuance situation.

The consulate in HCM is tough because the rate of visa fraud in Vietnam is very high. There have been at least three large scale federal immigration programs aimed at the Vietnamese people since 1975, which have resulted in millions of Viet Kieu living in the US. Like most east Asian cultures, family ties are strong with the Vietnamese, so the Viet Kieu in the US naturally want to be reunited with their family still living in Vietnam. Combine this with the fact that Vietnam is one of the poorest nations on earth, and you can see why the motive for visa fraud is so high. Because the consulate sees so much attempted fraud, they can be somewhat insensitive and harsh with applicants, and the burden of proving a relationship is sincere is a lot greater than it would be in a consulate in a western country.

[kevinbui86 0]

Perhaps a copy of the death certificate would help her case as well. I would like to think the US Consulate in HCM would be sympathetic towards an event like that.

Wow! You used "US Consulate in HCM" and "sympathetic" in the same sentence. I think that's the first time I've ever seen that here!

I hope you realize I'm just teasing. Please don't take it personally. The US Consulate in HCM is known to be one of the top 5 toughest consulates in the world.

Even though my ethnic roots are from VN/Cambodia, I was born & raised in Canada. Thus, the polite optimism

Ah, that sucks that it's a tough Consulate. I wonder if history has anything to do with it.

We're all looking forward to updates on this re-issuance situation.

The consulate in HCM is tough because the rate of visa fraud in Vietnam is very high. There have been at least three large scale federal immigration programs aimed at the Vietnamese people since 1975, which have resulted in millions of Viet Kieu living in the US. Like most east Asian cultures, family ties are strong with the Vietnamese, so the Viet Kieu in the US naturally want to be reunited with their family still living in Vietnam. Combine this with the fact that Vietnam is one of the poorest nations on earth, and you can see why the motive for visa fraud is so high. Because the consulate sees so much attempted fraud, they can be somewhat insensitive and harsh with applicants, and the burden of proving a relationship is sincere is a lot greater than it would be in a consulate in a western country.

yea, that is so true! of the 10 vietnamese people that i might know in the US, 7 of them want to bring their relatives into the US. whats the quickest and possible route?....marriage fraud!!

[SuperDuper! 230]

Perhaps a copy of the death certificate would help her case as well. I would like to think the US Consulate in HCM would be sympathetic towards an event like that.

It can take an extended time for the death cert. to be processed and made available. More available to you would be the attending doctorz report and the gravity of momz situation.

[JimVaPhuong 4,863]

Perhaps a copy of the death certificate would help her case as well. I would like to think the US Consulate in HCM would be sympathetic towards an event like that.

Wow! You used "US Consulate in HCM" and "sympathetic" in the same sentence. I think that's the first time I've ever seen that here!

I hope you realize I'm just teasing. Please don't take it personally. The US Consulate in HCM is known to be one of the top 5 toughest consulates in the world.

Even though my ethnic roots are from VN/Cambodia, I was born & raised in Canada. Thus, the polite optimism

Ah, that sucks that it's a tough Consulate. I wonder if history has anything to do with it.

We're all looking forward to updates on this re-issuance situation.

The consulate in HCM is tough because the rate of visa fraud in Vietnam is very high. There have been at least three large scale federal immigration programs aimed at the Vietnamese people since 1975, which have resulted in millions of Viet Kieu living in the US. Like most east Asian cultures, family ties are strong with the Vietnamese, so the Viet Kieu in the US naturally want to be reunited with their family still living in Vietnam. Combine this with the fact that Vietnam is one of the poorest nations on earth, and you can see why the motive for visa fraud is so high. Because the consulate sees so much attempted fraud, they can be somewhat insensitive and harsh with applicants, and the burden of proving a relationship is sincere is a lot greater than it would be in a consulate in a western country.

yea, that is so true! of the 10 vietnamese people that i might know in the US, 7 of them want to bring their relatives into the US. whats the quickest and possible route?....marriage fraud!!

I know several dozen Vietnamese people in the US. Some are friends, some are future family members, but most are just acquaintances. However, I think it's a pretty safe bet that ALL of them would like to see their families allowed to come to the US. I think all of them would also probably happily play matchmaker, and set up their family members with US citizens for marriage.

Now, this doesn't mean I think they would willingly engage in visa fraud. Remember that arranged marriage in Vietnam is still very common, and family members frequently perform as matchmakers to try to help members of their family into a better life. Most would never set up one of their own family members in a marriage if they thought their relative was going to be unhappy, or if they believed the marriage would ultimately end in divorce.

I'm not saying that Viet Kieu are not involved in setting up unwitting Americans with Vietnamese citizens for the purpose of visa fraud. I'm not even saying it isn't common, because I'm sure it is. I'm just saying that in a lot of these cases the Viet Kieu honestly believe they're arranging a legitimate marriage that will last. You can tell the ones who are sincere because they spend a long time getting to know the US citizen before even considering to introduce them to a girl or guy in Vietnam. After that, they get out of the way and let the relationship progress at it's own pace.

[scandal 951]

Any update? What's going on?

Yes, I really do hope the OP comes back to let us know how things are working out. Hopefully he does get another shot to bring his fiancee back into the US without starting all over again.

[*Robert* 2]

Contact the consulate. They have the authority to help you.

http://travel.state.gov/visa/laws/telegram...grams_1437.html

"N6.3 Reissuance of K-1 Visa

If a K-1 visa, valid for a single entry and a 6-month period, has already been used for admission into the United States and the alien fiance(e) has returned abroad prior to the marriage, the consular officer may issue a new K-1 visa, provided that the period of validity does not exceed the 90th day after the date of initial admission of the alien on the original K visa and provided also that the petitioner and beneficiary still intend and are free to marry. The alien''s return to the United States and marriage to the petitioner must take place within 90 days from the date of the original admission into the United States in K-1 status."

Enough said!

Now, to get an update from the OP.

[Noosh 0]

Okay, yeah it does sound bad. But realistically it could have been worse. Postive note, pick up your things and work with what you have. I strongly suggest you turn to your Congressman and plead your case like nothing before. Insha'allah everything will work out.

Faith in Allah to give you both patience and a positive attitude will take care of it. That is a Noosh Promise.

[Marina-Del 10]

Regarding the death certificate:

Did I miss something? I didn't see anywhere where he said that the MIL actually died? Maybe she did (I hope not!) maybe she didn't. All I see is him saying she got deathly ill....does that mean she didn't recover?

Sorry if I just didn't read carefully enough.

If she did die: try as hard as you can to get a death certificate or at least some sort of notarized document saying that she died (if the cert will take too long).

If she didn't die: get papers from the doctors stating how serious the situation was to bring to the consulate.

[Dau Que 6]

On behalf of JonasMichael, I'd like to thank all those who spent some of their valuable time to read the OP's thread and reply.

To OP, if you really do need this forum's help, then you need to post update to your problem. It's like calling 911, shouting, "BIG EMERGENCY!!!! I NEED HELP!", and then when help arrives, you just sit there and not saying a word to the ET.

People will start thinking you have mental problems.