Should We Waterboard the Christian Fascist Terrorist Who Assassinated Dr. Tiller?

[~PalmTreeGurl~ 154]

it seemed to me that he was going by the policy of "guilty before given a chance to be proven innocent" with the republican/terrorist issue. I always thought we were innocent until proven guilty

Well, as to the mans guilt, it seems quite incontrovertible. He shot the doctor while a church service was going on. He was also convicted in the past of posessing materials to make bombs. I'm not sure what your definition of a terrorist is........

As to the waterboarding and christian facism part of the post..... well, AJ is a troll, and if you take everything he posts seriously, you really shouldn't be participating in OT threads.

I dont take everything AJ says seriously, I have joked around numerous times with him. My feelings arent hurt, I just speak my opinions, the same as you do. I see we dont agree on several things already but I respect everyone has their own opinion to uphold. Thats what so great about being over here in the US. bcz in my husbands country of Egypt, you dont go around speaking out about some things that others disagree with when talking about politics or religious issues.

[spookyturtle 9,466]

What happened to AJ? Suspended for calling everyone and their dog a terrorist?

I think he may have cracked, this unfortunate event might have been too much for him.

Apparently if you don't get all broke up about a abortion Doc going to meet his maker... you must yourself be a secret terrorist.

Hey.. if the news broke that O.J. Simpson was found knifed at a Golf resort, I would not loose sleep either.

... doesn't mean I want or advise anyone to do it.

Why do you like murderers?

[Mark&Steph 0]

I still can't believe people are in here trying to take this thread seriously. I know it involves a serious subject and all but it was so obvious what it was here for.

Edited June 2, 2009 by Mark&Steph

[spookyturtle 9,466]

I still can't believe people are in here trying to take this thread seriously. I know it involves a serious subject and all but it was so obvious what it was here for.

It wasn't supposed to be serious?

[The_Dude 1,142]

it seemed to me that he was going by the policy of "guilty before given a chance to be proven innocent" with the republican/terrorist issue. I always thought we were innocent until proven guilty

Well, as to the mans guilt, it seems quite incontrovertible. He shot the doctor while a church service was going on. He was also convicted in the past of posessing materials to make bombs. I'm not sure what your definition of a terrorist is........

As to the waterboarding and christian facism part of the post..... well, AJ is a troll, and if you take everything he posts seriously, you really shouldn't be participating in OT threads.

I dont take everything AJ says seriously, I have joked around numerous times with him. My feelings arent hurt, I just speak my opinions, the same as you do. I see we dont agree on several things already but I respect everyone has their own opinion to uphold. Thats what so great about being over here in the US. bcz in my husbands country of Egypt, you dont go around speaking out about some things that others disagree with when talking about politics or religious issues.

Someone who has the materials to make bombs, has been implicated in threats to bomb clinics, and has gone out and in the middle of a church service, shot a man down, in the name of a religious or political dogma is a terrorist. That's not opinion, it's a fact.

[Chica Yeyé 41]

I still can't believe people are in here trying to take this thread seriously. I know it involves a serious subject and all but it was so obvious what it was here for.

It wasn't supposed to be serious?

[The_Dude 1,142]

I still can't believe people are in here trying to take this thread seriously. I know it involves a serious subject and all but it was so obvious what it was here for.

It wasn't supposed to be serious?

[Marina-Del 10]

Scott Roeder was no more of a christian than baby killer Dr Tiller who graced the doors of a church on Sundays. I dont know why Christianity needs to be throwed into this bcz neither of them displayed Christs example of love for humanity.

In my opinion, it is not my job, your job or anyones job to say who and who is not a Christian. Many many people call themselves Christians who do not display Christ's examples....but who are we to say that they are not Christians? There are tons of different Christian denominations and some say some things and others say others, but they all have different ideas and all interpret the Bible differently. So maybe neither of those men are Christians and maybe they both were, but that is not something that we can know. There is only one person that knows that.

Luke 13:24-27 "Make every effort to enter through the narrow door, because many, I tell you, will try to enter and will not be able to. Once the owner of the house gets up and closes the door, you will stand outside knocking and pleading, 'Sir, open the door for us.' But he will answer, 'I don't know you or where you come from.' Then you will say, 'We ate and drank with you and you taught in our streets,l But he will reply, 'I don't know you or where you come from. Away from me, all you evildoers!'

Since there is no proof as to whether either of them are christians OR not... then Christian has no place in the title above.

And from your bible verse you pointed out, means that there will be alot of people thinking they were Christians and are going to find out in the end there were really nothing but evildoers. Just bcz people want to label themselves as such, doesnt make it so in the end according to Luke 13.

Exactly, that was my point. Both the Dr. and the guy that murdered him labeled themselves as Christains. But whether they were actually Christains in the eyes of Jesus is something we cannot know. My point was exactly what you said above. People can say whatever they want, can feel whatever they want, but truly none of us know how we will be judged in the end. So, second point was that I don't think any of US can say if they were Christains or not...which is what you said in your original post which I replied too (that neither of them were Christains). I was simply inserting my opinion that that is not for us to say.

Ps: I agree with you italisized remark as well. However, I think the original post was supposed to be taken tounge in cheek and therefore Im not sweating it!

Edited June 2, 2009 by Marina-Del

[mawilson 2,133]

Exactly, that was my point. Both the Dr. and the guy that murdered him labeled themselves as Christains. But whether they were actually Christains in the eyes of Jesus is something we cannot know. My point was exactly what you said above. People can say whatever they want, can feel whatever they want, but truly none of us know how we will be judged in the end. So, second point was that I don't think any of US can say if they were Christains or not...which is what you said in your original post which I replied too (that neither of them were Christains). I was simply inserting my opinion that that is not for us to say.

Ps: I agree with you italisized remark as well. However, I think the original post was supposed to be taken tounge in cheek and therefore Im not sweating it!

Man... Christains are everywhere!

You need 'stain remover!

[The_Dude 1,142]

[~PalmTreeGurl~ 154]

Exactly, that was my point. Both the Dr. and the guy that murdered him labeled themselves as Christains. But whether they were actually Christains in the eyes of Jesus is something we cannot know. My point was exactly what you said above. People can say whatever they want, can feel whatever they want, but truly none of us know how we will be judged in the end. So, second point was that I don't think any of US can say if they were Christains or not...which is what you said in your original post which I replied too (that neither of them were Christains). I was simply inserting my opinion that that is not for us to say.

Ps: I agree with you italisized remark as well. However, I think the original post was supposed to be taken tounge in cheek and therefore Im not sweating it!

Man... Christains are everywhere!

You need 'stain remover!

its good to know that us republicans are not the only 'wrong' ones that post in here...

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

What happened to AJ? Suspended for calling everyone and their dog a terrorist?

Maybe he has actually been forced to work. I have not seen him in the other place he goes, when he does get suspended.

[Marina-Del 10]

My bad....and in my defense, I'm not on my regular keyboard. I'm at work and these computers are literally from 1998!! That spelling error was all me, but any other mistakes I'm not taking credit for!

Clearly I could spell it correctly earlier....but whatever

Edited June 2, 2009 by Marina-Del

[Chica Yeyé 41]

My bad....and in my defense, I'm not on my regular keyboard. I'm at work and these computers are literally from 1998!! That spelling error was all me, but any other mistakes I'm not taking credit for!

shame on you, darnit

[Marina-Del 10]

My bad....and in my defense, I'm not on my regular keyboard. I'm at work and these computers are literally from 1998!! That spelling error was all me, but any other mistakes I'm not taking credit for!

shame on you, darnit

It'll never happen agian, I swear!