what should we do?? help!!!!

[GJen 9]

Hey this is G (Beneficiary)

Well some of you know a little bit about our story and well my fiances parents already know everything about our engagement and the Fiance visa. I think her dad took it way better than her mom did, but yeah they were okay with it. My girlfriend had an interview for a better paying job and she is still looking around to get better options. We emailed the embassy to figure out if the three year taxes returns was required and apparently yes!... I asked a friend of mine who get through the process here in Venezuela and she said they had to take three year taxes return, so My fiance doesn't meet that requirement, she only has one year taxes return and it doesn't meet the 125% poverty guideline. She talked to her mom last night a bit about it and she even mentioned about needing a co-sponsor and her mom said that she should wait Three years to get those taxes returns and do it herself because if she doesn't meet the financial requirements maybe that means she is not ready!! so Anyway my Fiance thinks her dad will think the same way so it's pointless to even ask and like we thought before we can't count on them as co-sponsors.

Right now I'm down in the dumps.. My fiance is so far away from me, I'm trapped here without a visa and she is working and she already took a break from work to come last April so she can't come again !!sigh!! I have no idea what I should do. I mean in a couple of weeks it will be FOUR YEARS of being together but at the same time so far away!. I swear I could wait for her forever but when I think of that waiting period I just think it's going to be so hard .. sigh

Any of you have an advice for us? any other option we haven't seen? I dunno I'm just desperate.

[R&AINC 1]

Hey this is G (Beneficiary)

Well some of you know a little bit about our story and well my fiances parents already know everything about our engagement and the Fiance visa. I think her dad took it way better than her mom did, but yeah they were okay with it. My girlfriend had an interview for a better paying job and she is still looking around to get better options. We emailed the embassy to figure out if the three year taxes returns was required and apparently yes!... I asked a friend of mine who get through the process here in Venezuela and she said they had to take three year taxes return, so My fiance doesn't meet that requirement, she only has one year taxes return and it doesn't meet the 125% poverty guideline. She talked to her mom last night a bit about it and she even mentioned about needing a co-sponsor and her mom said that she should wait Three years to get those taxes returns and do it herself because if she doesn't meet the financial requirements maybe that means she is not ready!! so Anyway my Fiance thinks her dad will think the same way so it's pointless to even ask and like we thought before we can't count on them as co-sponsors.

Right now I'm down in the dumps.. My fiance is so far away from me, I'm trapped here without a visa and she is working and she already took a break from work to come last April so she can't come again !!sigh!! I have no idea what I should do. I mean in a couple of weeks it will be FOUR YEARS of being together but at the same time so far away!. I swear I could wait for her forever but when I think of that waiting period I just think it's going to be so hard .. sigh

Any of you have an advice for us? any other option we haven't seen? I dunno I'm just desperate.

Hola,

I am asking a friend of mine cause my fiancee just graduated so she does not have a 3 years tax return. So ask her if maybe one of her friends or relatives can do it.

Sino pidele a Hugo Rafael que te mande sus 3 tax returns Con eso calificas rapidito

[Otto 83]

So let me ask you this - does your fiancé currently earn enough to meet the minimum (125% of the Federal Poverty Guidelines)? (Not what is on her previous year's tax return - but what she earns now.)

The reason I ask is because meeting the minimum is based (mostly) on what the USC currently earns which may or may not be what they earned the previous year.

[What Happened? 4]

So let me ask you this - does your fiancé currently earn enough to meet the minimum (125% of the Federal Poverty Guidelines)? (Not what is on her previous year's tax return - but what she earns now.)

The reason I ask is because meeting the minimum is based (mostly) on what the USC currently earns which may or may not be what they earned the previous year.

and also she didn't need to be working to file her taxes for the other years. While in school, even if she was not working she should have file her taxes. So she should have 3 years of tax returns. She can still file for the previous years, which may be worth doing, if she currently meets the poverty guidelines.

[Anh map 2,098]

Dad took it better than mom? If I remember correctly that was not the expectation. Obviously they are worried that you two are jumping too soon into marriage. And that discussion happened a few threads ago. No need to repeat.

It's time to not hint to dad but to ask him straight up. You two are expecting no, so there isn't really any surprise answer ( other than yes) that you can receive.

Did Jen get the job that she interviewed for? Will that result in an annualized salary of 18,212+?

Without a co-sponsor you two are stuck waiting. It's time to ask Dad.

[pushbrk 13,211]

Dad took it better than mom? If I remember correctly that was not the expectation. Obviously they are worried that you two are jumping too soon into marriage. And that discussion happened a few threads ago. No need to repeat.

It's time to not hint to dad but to ask him straight up. You two are expecting no, so there isn't really any surprise answer ( other than yes) that you can receive.

Did Jen get the job that she interviewed for? Will that result in an annualized salary of 18,212+?

Without a co-sponsor you two are stuck waiting. It's time to ask Dad.

If you take the consulate's answer at face value and then project that they require the sponsor to meet the minimums all three of those years, then yes, waiting or a co-sponsor are the only answers. I do NOT take their answer at face value and CERTAINLY do NOT project the additional meaning that even one of the tax returns has to show the minimum income of $18K+. Current income is king here. She needs to get there and make her case or get a co-sponsor. That's the same as you've been told already numerous times.

When it comes to asking questions, the question itself is often more important than the answer and even then, it's often critical to ask follow-up questions.

[Gary and Alla 3,694]

Hey this is G (Beneficiary)

Well some of you know a little bit about our story and well my fiances parents already know everything about our engagement and the Fiance visa. I think her dad took it way better than her mom did, but yeah they were okay with it. My girlfriend had an interview for a better paying job and she is still looking around to get better options. We emailed the embassy to figure out if the three year taxes returns was required and apparently yes!... I asked a friend of mine who get through the process here in Venezuela and she said they had to take three year taxes return, so My fiance doesn't meet that requirement, she only has one year taxes return and it doesn't meet the 125% poverty guideline. She talked to her mom last night a bit about it and she even mentioned about needing a co-sponsor and her mom said that she should wait Three years to get those taxes returns and do it herself because if she doesn't meet the financial requirements maybe that means she is not ready!! so Anyway my Fiance thinks her dad will think the same way so it's pointless to even ask and like we thought before we can't count on them as co-sponsors.

Right now I'm down in the dumps.. My fiance is so far away from me, I'm trapped here without a visa and she is working and she already took a break from work to come last April so she can't come again !!sigh!! I have no idea what I should do. I mean in a couple of weeks it will be FOUR YEARS of being together but at the same time so far away!. I swear I could wait for her forever but when I think of that waiting period I just think it's going to be so hard .. sigh

Any of you have an advice for us? any other option we haven't seen? I dunno I'm just desperate.

She needs three years tax returns OR explanaitions of why she didn't file. I do no tsee a problem there. If her parents are using this as an excuse, they will have to find another.

She will need to meet the income guidelines of course. Or have a co-sponsor. But you already knew that.

[Gary and Alla 3,694]

Dad took it better than mom? If I remember correctly that was not the expectation. Obviously they are worried that you two are jumping too soon into marriage. And that discussion happened a few threads ago. No need to repeat.

It's time to not hint to dad but to ask him straight up. You two are expecting no, so there isn't really any surprise answer ( other than yes) that you can receive.

Did Jen get the job that she interviewed for? Will that result in an annualized salary of 18,212+?

Without a co-sponsor you two are stuck waiting. It's time to ask Dad.

If you take the consulate's answer at face value and then project that they require the sponsor to meet the minimums all three of those years, then yes, waiting or a co-sponsor are the only answers. I do NOT take their answer at face value and CERTAINLY do NOT project the additional meaning that even one of the tax returns has to show the minimum income of $18K+. Current income is king here. She needs to get there and make her case or get a co-sponsor. That's the same as you've been told already numerous times.

When it comes to asking questions, the question itself is often more important than the answer and even then, it's often critical to ask follow-up questions.

True. As Pushbrk points out, there is no need to meet 2009 minimum guidelines with a 2006, 2007 or 2008 tax return. If she was not required to file, then just explain why/

[Vivi and Michael 0]

And what about K-3? if you guys get married in Venezuela, the affidavit of support and the 3 years tax returns are still mandatory? I'm sorry, I only know about K-1 cause that's what we did but I'm not sure about the K-3 process......

[Gary and Alla 3,694]

And what about K-3? if you guys get married in Venezuela, the affidavit of support and the 3 years tax returns are still mandatory? I'm sorry, I only know about K-1 cause that's what we did but I'm not sure about the K-3 process......

Yes, they are still mandatory. Financial support must be shown for any of the family/marriage baseed visas.

[rebeccajo 14]

Dad took it better than mom? If I remember correctly that was not the expectation. Obviously they are worried that you two are jumping too soon into marriage. And that discussion happened a few threads ago. No need to repeat.

It's time to not hint to dad but to ask him straight up. You two are expecting no, so there isn't really any surprise answer ( other than yes) that you can receive.

Did Jen get the job that she interviewed for? Will that result in an annualized salary of 18,212+?

Without a co-sponsor you two are stuck waiting. It's time to ask Dad.

If you take the consulate's answer at face value and then project that they require the sponsor to meet the minimums all three of those years, then yes, waiting or a co-sponsor are the only answers. I do NOT take their answer at face value and CERTAINLY do NOT project the additional meaning that even one of the tax returns has to show the minimum income of $18K+. Current income is king here. She needs to get there and make her case or get a co-sponsor. That's the same as you've been told already numerous times.

When it comes to asking questions, the question itself is often more important than the answer and even then, it's often critical to ask follow-up questions.

Yes, I'd go by anecdotal accounts of what is required at that consulate.

Three years may be required. And then again it may not.

Current income USUALLY is king. But not always.

[pushbrk 13,211]

Dad took it better than mom? If I remember correctly that was not the expectation. Obviously they are worried that you two are jumping too soon into marriage. And that discussion happened a few threads ago. No need to repeat.

It's time to not hint to dad but to ask him straight up. You two are expecting no, so there isn't really any surprise answer ( other than yes) that you can receive.

Did Jen get the job that she interviewed for? Will that result in an annualized salary of 18,212+?

Without a co-sponsor you two are stuck waiting. It's time to ask Dad.

If you take the consulate's answer at face value and then project that they require the sponsor to meet the minimums all three of those years, then yes, waiting or a co-sponsor are the only answers. I do NOT take their answer at face value and CERTAINLY do NOT project the additional meaning that even one of the tax returns has to show the minimum income of $18K+. Current income is king here. She needs to get there and make her case or get a co-sponsor. That's the same as you've been told already numerous times.

When it comes to asking questions, the question itself is often more important than the answer and even then, it's often critical to ask follow-up questions.

Yes, I'd go by anecdotal accounts of what is required at that consulate.

Three years may be required. And then again it may not.

Current income USUALLY is king. But not always.

They may ask for three years of tax returns but if there's a good reason for not filing, they'll accept the number you have. Asking for three years of returns is not the same as requiring three years of qualified income. One question and one answer is one question and one answer. There's more information out there and more questions to ask and answers to receive.

An example follow-up question would be, "My fiancee is very young and only started working last year. Her current income meets the requirments but her one and only tax return from last year shows less. Is that acceptable?" The answer is likely to be something along the lines of, "We'll evaluate the totality of the circumstances but current income is very important." At least, that's what MY anecdotal experience tells me.

There's also a difference between, "I just started my first job after passing the bar and my current salary is $85,000 a year." and "I just graduated from High School and have a full time job at Target making $9.25 an hour." Both meet the minimum but are not likely to be valued equally.

Edited June 3, 2009 by pushbrk

[Carlawarla 1]

Aside from what other people have suggested, I can see a few other possibilities. What about getting someone other than her parents to co-sponsor? Maybe instead of waiting several years, you might want to consider her immigrating to your country and then coming back in the future.

[emmaline_g 2]

Hi, I just want to write in because I was also engaged at age 22 when I finished college and your fiance/GJen reminds me of me. I am the female, USC and my fiance is the male beneficiary.

1) Is there anyone you can use for a co-sponsor besides the parents?

2) Ask the embassy how the tax returns requirement applies to a recent college grad. Maybe you can send a notarized letter/college transcript/etc. that explains Jen was in school and she is just entering the work force now.

3) I have noticed that Jen is working 2 different jobs, it might be a lot easier if she gets one office position with normal hours.

I do understand that jobs are hard to come by, but even during "normal" economic times here was my age 22 job searching experience: I sent out 75 resumes, used 3 different temp agencies, got called to 5 interviews, and only got 1 offer (the job I have now). This took 3 months. Many offices are eager to hire new college grads because they can "train" them and the salary is "OK", at least in my area. It could be different over there, but I imagine Jen would be well-qualified for this kind of position.

...Last of all, try to understand how her parents feel. Being the naive girl that I was, I was kind of hoping that once I told my parents they would shower me with praise and economic help Of course that was not the case. My mother cried and my father said he was happy for me, but he was not THRILLED and he definitely was not going to help me out.

Of course *I* love and trust my fiance, but they have never met him and have no idea who he is. Why should they love him as much as I do? Why should they become financially responsible for someone they don't know? It was hard for me to accept but now I understand.

I am 24 years old now and yes, the time apart SUCKS, but I do feel my father was right to make me establish myself financially before attempting to get married. Now that I am supporting myself and living on my own, my father has ironically agreed to co-sponsor my fiance (who he has gotten to know and now likes him) if need be because I only have 2 years of tax returns myself!

I am not saying my situation applies to everyone's or even yours, but I definitely think if you two really love each other there will be a way for you to make it work. I am sure if your fiance shows her parents with her actions that she is ready to be an adult and be married to you, they will come around and end up helping you and probably loving you It takes a lot of work though

[baron555 934]

Any of you have an advice for us? any other option we haven't seen?

Check to see if the three years of above poverty level income is unique to the Embassy in Ven. Check out the Embassy Info button at the top of this page.

Does she have any deposits in the bank? She can use those as assets. You could send her a million dollars that she could deposit and use. Just joking.

Anyone can be a co-sponsor, how about a favorite uncle or aunt?