Insights on why people 'snap' and kill

[Niels Bohr 72]

I am perverted but I never act like a perverted guy. Don't know why.

[DeadPoolX 9]

I am perverted but I never act like a perverted guy. Don't know why.

That's because you're an engineer.

[Chica Yeyé 41]

I am perverted but I never act like a perverted guy. Don't know why.

That's because you're an engineer beginner.

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[Peikko 1,575]

I can't agree with that the idea that "fantasizing about killing leads to it." I'm sure that's the case for some individuals, but I can't imagine that's the norm.

I certainly fantasized about killing tons of classmates when I was in high school. I never did it because doing so would ruin my life, not to mention harm a lot of families in the process.

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I have never fantasized about killing anyone. Of course the article does state that each particular behaviour does not necessarily lead anywhere, it's a combination of decisions. This is where I am having a problem with the knowledge of right from wrong too. You chose, apparantly not to kill your class mates, not from a sense of knowing that doing so was inherently a wrong thing to do, but because you thought the consequences of doing so outweighed the benefits. Personally, I find that absolutely strange and does not, to me show an understanding of right from wrong, merely knowing which side of the bread is better buttered.

Well, here's the deal: these very same individuals psychologically, emotionally and physically tormented me from 1st Grade onward. If they could hurt me in some fashion, they did so (and apparently enjoyed it). I tried getting teachers to help, but they ignored the problem. It wasn't their responsibility or so I was told. Talking to those who were attacking me didn't do anything, either. In fact, it only made them attempt to hurt me in a more aggressive manner.

Eventually, I fought back using violence. Only after I made them bleed did they leave me alone. It was unfortunate that the situation couldn't have been resolved any other way, but bullies only understand violence.

Considering the circumstances, it's very easy to see what I wanted to kill them.

Surely a desire to kill as a result of your torments is a disproportionate response? Wishing to get back at, I can understand, but the desire to actually kill? Sorry, I still can't see into your mind set. There are all types of bullying by the way. Girls, bless their little hearts, can think of far, far worse tortures than physical pain.

I don't see a problem with fantasising about this stuff - if fantasy is where it stays. Of course that's not really the same as getting to point where you're actively weighing up a cognitive decision with pros and cons (which is a stonesthrow away from acting on it).

I had similar thoughts during my childhood and adolescence but it was never became something that I actually considered as a practical, tangible thing to do. It was more like - "if I punch so-and-so in the face, what will happen?"

It wasn't in the sense of punishments and consequences that would be forthcoming - but exactly what would happen if I were to do it and how the dynamic of the classroom would change - with panic and hysteria.

Your fantasies where for a different reason and were more esoteric . Deadpool needed a way to solve his problems (which were not small, they should not be dismissed, and no more I would) and fantasizing about killing his classmates was a fantastic solution. Neither one of you had any intention of actually putting these fantasies into action, as it turns out, because both of you had a reason not to but your reasons not to were not equal, or so it seems to me.

I think from the article that the fantasies are more like rehearsals, more in the scenario of actually imaging every detail of acquiring the means, finding the opportunity, committing the act and probably removing oneself from the scene of the act (at least, as far as one can imagine something one has never done), all the steps, not just the act of killing itself. Probably, focusing on the act of killing on its own, no matter how gory one's imagination, is simply not psycotic enough.

[mawilson 2,133]

I saw the trailer - and I know I've seen that guy somewhere before. I thought he was in Buffy, but I can't place him.

He was in Prison Break.

[mawilson 2,133]

i am glad to get allot of good comments

Brother - I'm just thinking that if I ever saw the signs in someone I know, what are the appropriate steps to take. Talk to them? Call the police and have the person evaluated? (I think that would really set them off if the police didn't take it further than questioning them). Is there a way that we can intervene and possibly save the lives of others before someone around us snaps?

Preemptive attack would work. Kill them before they kill you, just in case.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

I saw the trailer - and I know I've seen that guy somewhere before. I thought he was in Buffy, but I can't place him.

He was in Prison Break.

I think I only watched a few episodes of that and was appalled at how bad the storytelling was. Even worse than 24 (which is no mean feat).

Its not only that they make up the story as they go along, but that each episode must involve a radical plot double-cross plot twist. After a few weeks - everyone has been conned into working for everyone else.

[one...two...tree 2,762]

I can't agree with that the idea that "fantasizing about killing leads to it." I'm sure that's the case for some individuals, but I can't imagine that's the norm.

I certainly fantasized about killing tons of classmates when I was in high school. I never did it because doing so would ruin my life, not to mention harm a lot of families in the process.

Are you serious? When you say fantasized, you imagined yourself actually killing them or you just thought your life would be better off if they somehow just dropped dead?

[Chica Yeyé 41]

[one...two...tree 2,762]

i am glad to get allot of good comments

Brother - I'm just thinking that if I ever saw the signs in someone I know, what are the appropriate steps to take. Talk to them? Call the police and have the person evaluated? (I think that would really set them off if the police didn't take it further than questioning them). Is there a way that we can intervene and possibly save the lives of others before someone around us snaps?

Preemptive attack would work. Kill them before they kill you, just in case.

Mark, have you ever been tested for lacking empathy?

[w¡n9Nµ7 §£@¥€r 123]

i am glad to get allot of good comments

Brother - I'm just thinking that if I ever saw the signs in someone I know, what are the appropriate steps to take. Talk to them? Call the police and have the person evaluated? (I think that would really set them off if the police didn't take it further than questioning them). Is there a way that we can intervene and possibly save the lives of others before someone around us snaps?

Preemptive attack would work. Kill them before they kill you, just in case.

Mark, have you ever been tested for lacking empathy?

Dude, go to Wal Mart and buy a sense of humor.

[one...two...tree 2,762]

i am glad to get allot of good comments

Brother - I'm just thinking that if I ever saw the signs in someone I know, what are the appropriate steps to take. Talk to them? Call the police and have the person evaluated? (I think that would really set them off if the police didn't take it further than questioning them). Is there a way that we can intervene and possibly save the lives of others before someone around us snaps?

Preemptive attack would work. Kill them before they kill you, just in case.

Mark, have you ever been tested for lacking empathy?

Dude, go to Wal Mart and buy a sense of humor.

I tried, but they censored out all the good parts.

[almaty 19]

lol..

sister purple..again ....

the point is that asocial types..have a highly developed defense mechanism of rationalization./....they do know but they can debate it away in their minds

[one...two...tree 2,762]

Do we have any sociopaths here on VJ that are willing to come forward? Anyone?

[almaty 19]

brother.,,,, a sociopath ..would never call himself out..he blame you for being a sh!t disturber..