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Those who are anti-abortion, are you anti-abortion full stop or are their certain circumstances when an abortion in your eyes is necessary? If so which circumstances?

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You'd think those on the left who have been so helpful in the recycling of "Pepsi cans" and milk-jugs would also see the value in unwanted children.

Just a thought.

Abortion recycles babies.

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Sure glad my son and daugher-in-law didn't abort my granddaughter, she is a real first class honey. Some mention of birth control, they were married three years, but took them that long to get settled, and with a $15,000.00 birth bill that only 80% of their health insurance covered, but they had to get that health insurance first. Amber is now seven months old, I can't even keep track of the number of times she has been to the doctor for well checkup's and vaccinations, but hear, 300 bucks there and 500 bucks here for each visit. Other problems like day care that can costs as much as 400 bucks per week! Since my daughter-in-law has the higher paying job, they elected for my son to stay home and take care of her.

With my own kids, the government let me pay a buck or two less taxes each day for the year for each kid, but this same damned government tells me it costs them $12,000 per year to baby sit my kids in their school system and that is less than 18% of the time. And baby sitting is the precise word, because they sure in the hell didn't teach them anything!

If their are problems with abortion, these are the problems that should be looked into and how the government and health industry is screwing us with the major cost of raising a child, and if you make a couple of bucks, you sure in the hell don't get any help! Plus our state has recently enacted laws where we as parents our guilty and have to pay stiff fines if our kids get into any trouble. If our kids skip school, we go to jail! And ironically, they don't even allow parents in our schools to make sure they are there!

So if a woman does get pregnant and can't possible afford to raise that child, gets an abortion, are they going to sent her to death roll? The way I see this country now, the only women that can afford to have babies are 14 year old illegals, there, the state picks up the tab.

We really have a screwed up government on this issue.

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Those who are anti-abortion, are you anti-abortion full stop or are their certain circumstances when an abortion in your eyes is necessary? If so which circumstances?

I think the vast majority of people realize the very large percentage of Abortions are not in the "difficult" cases, they are simply abortions of convenience.

Even those Prolife people who are "Hard core" .. shall we say, would be very much in favor of stopping the bulk of abortions even if more difficult cases continued.

After all when a plane is hi-jacked and the hi-jackers offer to let the women and children off... do we say

"Nope, it's all or none"?

Thanks for your reply Danno...."Abortions of Convenience" not entirely sure what type of circumstance(s) would fall into that category. In my own opinion I believe the Mother should have the right to choose to have an abortion because of 1) Rape 2) Incest 3) Not having the emotional and financial means to raise a child.

Thats a loophole big enough to make any law meaningless.

Staunch Abortion defenders demand the same type wording whenever laws to stop late-term abortions are proposed, most often it is "health of the mother"..... which can mean anything. Stress, Stretch marks, weight gain (well, I might agree on that one :) ) These are word-games played to keep the door wide open for any and all abortions.... right up into the 3rd trimester with fully formed fetuses.

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So, in the US all a heavily pregnant woman has to do is walz into an abortion clinic and say I feel like having an abortion today and the doctors whip her into the operating theater and that's that? Interesting. Perhaps US doctors are murderers after all.

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One-sided. I'd like to hear the reason from a democrat why they oppose, not by a republican since I heard from them.

Democrat with an answer as to why I oppose:

Abortion is, imo, murder, therefore wrong.

However, I believe this cannot be a blanket for all situations and I oppose making abortion illegal in cases of rape and endangering the life of the mother. I do not see financial hardship as a reason to get an abortion. If you can't afford to get pregnant then don't have sex or use birth control. I also think the father should have some say which I know angers some people and there are difficult situations in which the father can't be contacted (or trusted). But think about the men who have unknowingly fathered a child which was then aborted? Not all men are jerks who don't care and won't help as some would have you believe. And while it may be the woman's body, the man had a part in the conception of the child too.

Haven't had my coffee yet, so if this doesn't make sense, apologies :)

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Abortions performed in the first trimester are 87% of all abortions. Second trimester is around 12%. Less than 1% are third trimester, and usually it's because of something that's gone wrong in the pregnancy with the fetus (e.g., hydroencephaly) These are good percentages to keep in mind, because there's a tendency to think of abortions as primarily targeting viable 35-week-old fetuses even though everyone has to know that's not true.

I am not sure whether it makes a difference, but most people and polls (and even some religious history) show that people's intuitions shake out with the first trimester abortions being okay ("the quickening", historically) and later ones being more problematic.

I think NickD brings up a very good point. Reducing abortions is going to require better support for mothers, even if it's something as simple as being able to purchase insurance that covers pregnancy (often quite difficult if you are self-employed or employed at a job that doesn't provide health care coverage, but make too much money to qualify for aid programs.)

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One-sided. I'd like to hear the reason from a democrat why they oppose, not by a republican since I heard from them.

Democrat with an answer as to why I oppose:

Abortion is, imo, murder, therefore wrong.

However, I believe this cannot be a blanket for all situations and I oppose making abortion illegal in cases of rape and endangering the life of the mother. I do not see financial hardship as a reason to get an abortion. If you can't afford to get pregnant then don't have sex or use birth control. I also think the father should have some say which I know angers some people and there are difficult situations in which the father can't be contacted (or trusted). But think about the men who have unknowingly fathered a child which was then aborted? Not all men are jerks who don't care and won't help as some would have you believe. And while it may be the woman's body, the man had a part in the conception of the child too.

Haven't had my coffee yet, so if this doesn't make sense, apologies :)

Not all mothers who seek abortions are in fact childless, unwed and/or out of a relationship or didn't use birth control - all be it some of the birth control methods probably suck.

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One-sided. I'd like to hear the reason from a democrat why they oppose, not by a republican since I heard from them.

Democrat with an answer as to why I oppose:

Abortion is, imo, murder, therefore wrong.

However, I believe this cannot be a blanket for all situations and I oppose making abortion illegal in cases of rape and endangering the life of the mother. I do not see financial hardship as a reason to get an abortion. If you can't afford to get pregnant then don't have sex or use birth control. I also think the father should have some say which I know angers some people and there are difficult situations in which the father can't be contacted (or trusted). But think about the men who have unknowingly fathered a child which was then aborted? Not all men are jerks who don't care and won't help as some would have you believe. And while it may be the woman's body, the man had a part in the conception of the child too.

Haven't had my coffee yet, so if this doesn't make sense, apologies :)

Not all mothers who seek abortions are in fact childless, unwed and/or out of a relationship or didn't use birth control - all be it some of the birth control methods probably suck.

Something like 44% of all pregnancies are unplanned. There was a study done in California on this and the percentage varies somewhat amongst demographic groups, but even among college educated, relatively affluent women, 35% of pregnancies are unplanned. (Not necessarily unwanted, or unwelcome once it happens, but birth control isn't foolproof.)

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The pro choice lobby deliberately seek to distort reality. That's not to say there aren't some pretty wacky souls in the pro choice camp too, but ultimately there are systems in place that control abortion, it simply is not the case that all one has to do is roll up to a clinic, pay your money and that's that. These are health care workers who perform these operations and while I am sure there are some dodgy clinics, I am quite sure these are the rare exceptions and not the rule.

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