divorced twice but only have one divorced decree for interview

[kilipit 0]

I have a Questions for today from a friend.

Her petitioner was divorced twice, the fiance only have the second divorce decree of her petitioner on her up coming interview and this is also submitted as part of an application to Vermont, and they didnot ask any additional documents and they were approved.

The first divorce decree is in USA and cant get it right away because the petitioner is still in iraq for work. the fiance remember that her petitioner submit an email and proof of relationship in Vermont, one email is pertaining about the first ex wife divorced and the second ex wife divorced topic.

Her concern is, they said that whatever you sent to NVC will be forwarded to US Embassy, she is worried what if they read that during her interview and she will be ask if how many times her petitioner divorced, and she likes to answer it only once (instead of twice) because she have only the 2nd divorced decree on her hand, her petitioner didnt include the first ex wife name in G-325A because the divorced decree is in USA.(only included is the name of the second ex wife because he has the divorced decree on his hand)

her petitioner first marriage last for 3 months and then divorced

the second marriage last for 17 years and then divorced

Whats the best answer during her interview?

if she will tell that her petitioner was divorced only once, she can provide the second divorced decree.

if she will tell twice, she needs the first divorced decree too.

any opinion out there?

Thank you.

[brnidokiegurl 0]

tell the truth, (always) what u send thru the system is what is sent to the embassy for the interview, this is one reason to always make a copy of the application so the benef can see and lean what the interviewer is reading (where they get alot of their questions)

[JimVaPhuong 4,863]

I have a Questions for today from a friend.

Wow, what a coincidence! Your friend's situation sounds just like the situation you described for yourself here:

http://www.visajourney.com/forums/index.ph...t&p=2931283

Even the lengths of the two marriages and time since divorce are the same. Fancy that!

Ok, I'm going to say to your "friend" the same thing I said to you in the other thread. My attorney told me that the consulate in my fiancee's country has an investigations unit, and the investigators there often purchase background checks on the petitioner from private firms like Choicepoint. Apparently, it's less expensive than actually doing the background checks themselves. The purpose of the checks is to dig up information "not known to USCIS at the time the original petition was filed". This last part is important, because it is the foundation of most applications denied by the consulate under 221(g). The background checks usually include the results of a search through public records. That search will usually reveal previous a previous marriage or divorce.

Not every embassy or consulate does these investigations, and you didn't tell us which country was involved. So, the questions are...

Can the consulate find out about the previous divorce? The answer is yes. Will the consulate find out? The answer is unknown, but you should assume that they will. If you don't reveal the first divorce and the consulate finds out, then there are only two possible outcomes, and both are potentially bad. If they ask you if he was married twice and you say "yes", then they're going to want to know what it wasn't declared. At the least, they'll want the documentation for the first marriage. At the most, your application will be denied for misrepresentation. If you say "no", your application will be probably be denied for misrepresentation.

Once your application is denied for misrepresentation then you'll be barred from coming to the US unless you can get a waiver.

Your fiance's excuse about not being able to get the documentation for the first marriage because he was out of the country is weak. Unlike birth certificates, many states maintain these records at the county level rather than the state level, but most counties that I'm aware of don't require you to be physically present in their office to order a certified copy of a divorce decree. I got a copy of the divorce decree for my first marriage by writing a simple one-page request letter, and including a photocopy of my driver's license and a check for $2. I live 2000 miles away from the county where the divorce took place. Your fiance could have easily done this while he was in Iraq.

[Gary and Alla 3,694]

I have a Questions for today from a friend.

Her petitioner was divorced twice, the fiance only have the second divorce decree of her petitioner on her up coming interview and this is also submitted as part of an application to Vermont, and they didnot ask any additional documents and they were approved.

The first divorce decree is in USA and cant get it right away because the petitioner is still in iraq for work. the fiance remember that her petitioner submit an email and proof of relationship in Vermont, one email is pertaining about the first ex wife divorced and the second ex wife divorced topic.

Her concern is, they said that whatever you sent to NVC will be forwarded to US Embassy, she is worried what if they read that during her interview and she will be ask if how many times her petitioner divorced, and she likes to answer it only once (instead of twice) because she have only the 2nd divorced decree on her hand, her petitioner didnt include the first ex wife name in G-325A because the divorced decree is in USA.(only included is the name of the second ex wife because he has the divorced decree on his hand)

her petitioner first marriage last for 3 months and then divorced

the second marriage last for 17 years and then divorced

Whats the best answer during her interview?

if she will tell that her petitioner was divorced only once, she can provide the second divorced decree.

if she will tell twice, she needs the first divorced decree too.

any opinion out there?

Thank you.

There is a serious problem here that needs to be sorted out. Both marriages need to be listed on the I-129f, were they? Blah, blah, blah about emails means nothing. It is third party "she said/he said" the worst kind. Does she have a copy of the I-129f submitted to VSC? She should. Both marriages and spouse names should be listed. If both marriages were listed there should have been two divorce decrees submitted with the petition, absent that the USCIS cannot determine if he is legally able to marry your friend (or his second wife for that matter) I do not see them overlooking this. The beneficiary, your friend, does not submit divorce papers for the petitioner at her interview. Neither for her. Divorce papers MUST be filed with the petition to demonstrate both parties are free to marry. Divorce decrees are public documents, anyone can request them. I got mine for $5 and a letter written to the court clerk in another state along with a self addressed envelope. I got them in one week from mailing the letter. What gives? Mumbly mouthed excuses about "I was out of country" don't cut it, the decree can be easily obtained and mailed to anyone and could have, should have been included with the petition.

If both marriages were not listed, the petitioner has materially misrepresented himself in this case and has exposed himself and his fiancee to serious penalties including up to a lifetime ban on any visa or sponsoring any visa.

Your friend should not go to her interview until this is sorted out and should never be put in the position to lie. DO NOT assume if he did not tell about this first marriage, that they will not find out. And if he has decided to lie about this, why has she been made to have to also lie about this, it does not sound like an intelligent or very responsible way to demonstrate you love someone. She also has the AOS interview to go after they are married, this is not a "one time" review of their case.

I suspect she will find one marriage listed on the i-129f which means her fiance has lied and is now lying to her and expects her to lie at the interview. Very bad situation especially with a fiance from a high fraud country.

I have a Questions for today from a friend.

Her petitioner was divorced twice, the fiance only have the second divorce decree of her petitioner on her up coming interview and this is also submitted as part of an application to Vermont, and they didnot ask any additional documents and they were approved.

The first divorce decree is in USA and cant get it right away because the petitioner is still in iraq for work. the fiance remember that her petitioner submit an email and proof of relationship in Vermont, one email is pertaining about the first ex wife divorced and the second ex wife divorced topic.

Her concern is, they said that whatever you sent to NVC will be forwarded to US Embassy, she is worried what if they read that during her interview and she will be ask if how many times her petitioner divorced, and she likes to answer it only once (instead of twice) because she have only the 2nd divorced decree on her hand, her petitioner didnt include the first ex wife name in G-325A because the divorced decree is in USA.(only included is the name of the second ex wife because he has the divorced decree on his hand)

her petitioner first marriage last for 3 months and then divorced

the second marriage last for 17 years and then divorced

Whats the best answer during her interview?

if she will tell that her petitioner was divorced only once, she can provide the second divorced decree.

if she will tell twice, she needs the first divorced decree too.

any opinion out there?

Thank you.

There is a serious problem here that needs to be sorted out. Both marriages need to be listed on the I-129f, were they? Blah, blah, blah about emails means nothing. It is third party "she said/he said" the worst kind. Does she have a copy of the I-129f submitted to VSC? She should. Both marriages and spouse names should be listed. If both marriages were listed there should have been two divorce decrees submitted with the petition, absent that the USCIS cannot determine if he is legally able to marry your friend (or his second wife for that matter) I do not see them overlooking this. The beneficiary, your friend, does not submit divorce papers for the petitioner at her interview. Neither for her. Divorce papers MUST be filed with the petition to demonstrate both parties are free to marry. Divorce decrees are public documents, anyone can request them. I got mine for $5 and a letter written to the court clerk in another state along with a self addressed envelope. I got them in one week from mailing the letter. What gives? Mumbly mouthed excuses about "I was out of country" don't cut it, the decree can be easily obtained and mailed to anyone and could have, should have been included with the petition.

If both marriages were not listed, the petitioner has materially misrepresented himself in this case and has exposed himself and his fiancee to serious penalties including up to a lifetime ban on any visa or sponsoring any visa.

Your friend should not go to her interview until this is sorted out and should never be put in the position to lie. DO NOT assume if he did not tell about this first marriage, that they will not find out. And if he has decided to lie about this, why has she been made to have to also lie about this, it does not sound like an intelligent or very responsible way to demonstrate you love someone. She also has the AOS interview to go after they are married, this is not a "one time" review of their case.

I suspect she will find one marriage listed on the i-129f which means her fiance has lied and is now lying to her and expects her to lie at the interview. Very bad situation especially with a fiance from a high fraud country.

[Gary and Alla 3,694]

I have a Questions for today from a friend.

Wow, what a coincidence! Your friend's situation sounds just like the situation you described for yourself here:

http://www.visajourney.com/forums/index.ph...t&p=2931283

Even the lengths of the two marriages and time since divorce are the same. Fancy that!

Ok, I'm going to say to your "friend" the same thing I said to you in the other thread. My attorney told me that the consulate in my fiancee's country has an investigations unit, and the investigators there often purchase background checks on the petitioner from private firms like Choicepoint. Apparently, it's less expensive than actually doing the background checks themselves. The purpose of the checks is to dig up information "not known to USCIS at the time the original petition was filed". This last part is important, because it is the foundation of most applications denied by the consulate under 221(g). The background checks usually include the results of a search through public records. That search will usually reveal previous a previous marriage or divorce.

Not every embassy or consulate does these investigations, and you didn't tell us which country was involved. So, the questions are...

Can the consulate find out about the previous divorce? The answer is yes. Will the consulate find out? The answer is unknown, but you should assume that they will. If you don't reveal the first divorce and the consulate finds out, then there are only two possible outcomes, and both are potentially bad. If they ask you if he was married twice and you say "yes", then they're going to want to know what it wasn't declared. At the least, they'll want the documentation for the first marriage. At the most, your application will be denied for misrepresentation. If you say "no", your application will be probably be denied for misrepresentation.

Once your application is denied for misrepresentation then you'll be barred from coming to the US unless you can get a waiver.

Your fiance's excuse about not being able to get the documentation for the first marriage because he was out of the country is weak. Unlike birth certificates, many states maintain these records at the county level rather than the state level, but most counties that I'm aware of don't require you to be physically present in their office to order a certified copy of a divorce decree. I got a copy of the divorce decree for my first marriage by writing a simple one-page request letter, and including a photocopy of my driver's license and a check for $2. I live 2000 miles away from the county where the divorce took place. Your fiance could have easily done this while he was in Iraq.

Oh #######.

Ok listen, and I just read your post again where you say he did not list the first marriage on the G-325a so I can absolutely say he did not list on the I-129f. If this story is true, and now I question that, you are both playing with fire. My advice is abandon this attempt at fraud and start all over with a properly filed petition.

By the way, I got my divorce decree about the same way and did not need a copy of the drivers license! It was the easiest of the documents to obtain.

And not to pick on any one nationality, but these types of posts ALWAYS seem to come from Phillipines. What's up with that? Multiple posts from various member names about the same problem or "freinds" trying to slip around one rule or another. You realize it is why this is a difficult process for legitimate couples with SO in the Phillipines? Nice.

[kilipit 0]

I have a Questions for today from a friend.

Wow, what a coincidence! Your friend's situation sounds just like the situation you described for yourself here:

http://www.visajourney.com/forums/index.ph...t&p=2931283

Even the lengths of the two marriages and time since divorce are the same. Fancy that!

Ok, I'm going to say to your "friend" the same thing I said to you in the other thread. My attorney told me that the consulate in my fiancee's country has an investigations unit, and the investigators there often purchase background checks on the petitioner from private firms like Choicepoint. Apparently, it's less expensive than actually doing the background checks themselves. The purpose of the checks is to dig up information "not known to USCIS at the time the original petition was filed". This last part is important, because it is the foundation of most applications denied by the consulate under 221(g). The background checks usually include the results of a search through public records. That search will usually reveal previous a previous marriage or divorce.

Not every embassy or consulate does these investigations, and you didn't tell us which country was involved. So, the questions are...

Can the consulate find out about the previous divorce? The answer is yes. Will the consulate find out? The answer is unknown, but you should assume that they will. If you don't reveal the first divorce and the consulate finds out, then there are only two possible outcomes, and both are potentially bad. If they ask you if he was married twice and you say "yes", then they're going to want to know what it wasn't declared. At the least, they'll want the documentation for the first marriage. At the most, your application will be denied for misrepresentation. If you say "no", your application will be probably be denied for misrepresentation.

Once your application is denied for misrepresentation then you'll be barred from coming to the US unless you can get a waiver.

Your fiance's excuse about not being able to get the documentation for the first marriage because he was out of the country is weak. Unlike birth certificates, many states maintain these records at the county level rather than the state level, but most counties that I'm aware of don't require you to be physically present in their office to order a certified copy of a divorce decree. I got a copy of the divorce decree for my first marriage by writing a simple one-page request letter, and including a photocopy of my driver's license and a check for $2. I live 2000 miles away from the county where the divorce took place. Your fiance could have easily done this while he was in Iraq.

Oh #######.

Ok listen, and I just read your post again where you say he did not list the first marriage on the G-325a so I can absolutely say he did not list on the I-129f. If this story is true, and now I question that, you are both playing with fire. My advice is abandon this attempt at fraud and start all over with a properly filed petition.

By the way, I got my divorce decree about the same way and did not need a copy of the drivers license! It was the easiest of the documents to obtain.

And not to pick on any one nationality, but these types of posts ALWAYS seem to come from Phillipines. What's up with that? Multiple posts from various member names about the same problem or "freinds" trying to slip around one rule or another. You realize it is why this is a difficult process for legitimate couples with SO in the Phillipines? Nice.

Its my friend's problem, i let her use the word "I" here so that she can elaborate well her problem and trying to find answer. i didnt get an answered when she used the word "I", instead i get a lot of answer from you guys when i refer the word "question from my friend" I am so much thankful to you guys who are very concern and feel for my friend. I appreciate so much your help and advice.

One thing for sure, she and her petitioner decide to show the first divorce decree on her up coming interview, she would prefer to say "twice" and if they ask why the petitioner didnt include it on I-129F and G-325A it because the petitioner thought it was only the most recent divorced that needs to put and that time he needs to fly back to iraq for work. however its good that the petitioner is willing to present the first divorced paper on the interview.

It was said that the packet is already in the Consulate for her up coming interview. they decide that they need to correct and show evidences to fill in the blanks.

her petitioner would like to give her fiance a new I-129F and G-325A completed and signed and notarized it and wrote the first and second divorced name of previous spouses and with the two divorced decree together to show it on her interview.

a waiver or statement and notarized it indicating that the missing name for first marriage and the first divorced decree is unintentional so that once they will ask for it, the fiance can show it directly to the consulate, on her interview.

Any advice/suggestions?

Thank you.

[Gary and Alla 3,694]

I have a Questions for today from a friend.

Wow, what a coincidence! Your friend's situation sounds just like the situation you described for yourself here:

http://www.visajourney.com/forums/index.ph...t&p=2931283

Even the lengths of the two marriages and time since divorce are the same. Fancy that!

Ok, I'm going to say to your "friend" the same thing I said to you in the other thread. My attorney told me that the consulate in my fiancee's country has an investigations unit, and the investigators there often purchase background checks on the petitioner from private firms like Choicepoint. Apparently, it's less expensive than actually doing the background checks themselves. The purpose of the checks is to dig up information "not known to USCIS at the time the original petition was filed". This last part is important, because it is the foundation of most applications denied by the consulate under 221(g). The background checks usually include the results of a search through public records. That search will usually reveal previous a previous marriage or divorce.

Not every embassy or consulate does these investigations, and you didn't tell us which country was involved. So, the questions are...

Can the consulate find out about the previous divorce? The answer is yes. Will the consulate find out? The answer is unknown, but you should assume that they will. If you don't reveal the first divorce and the consulate finds out, then there are only two possible outcomes, and both are potentially bad. If they ask you if he was married twice and you say "yes", then they're going to want to know what it wasn't declared. At the least, they'll want the documentation for the first marriage. At the most, your application will be denied for misrepresentation. If you say "no", your application will be probably be denied for misrepresentation.

Once your application is denied for misrepresentation then you'll be barred from coming to the US unless you can get a waiver.

Your fiance's excuse about not being able to get the documentation for the first marriage because he was out of the country is weak. Unlike birth certificates, many states maintain these records at the county level rather than the state level, but most counties that I'm aware of don't require you to be physically present in their office to order a certified copy of a divorce decree. I got a copy of the divorce decree for my first marriage by writing a simple one-page request letter, and including a photocopy of my driver's license and a check for $2. I live 2000 miles away from the county where the divorce took place. Your fiance could have easily done this while he was in Iraq.

Oh #######.

Ok listen, and I just read your post again where you say he did not list the first marriage on the G-325a so I can absolutely say he did not list on the I-129f. If this story is true, and now I question that, you are both playing with fire. My advice is abandon this attempt at fraud and start all over with a properly filed petition.

By the way, I got my divorce decree about the same way and did not need a copy of the drivers license! It was the easiest of the documents to obtain.

And not to pick on any one nationality, but these types of posts ALWAYS seem to come from Phillipines. What's up with that? Multiple posts from various member names about the same problem or "freinds" trying to slip around one rule or another. You realize it is why this is a difficult process for legitimate couples with SO in the Phillipines? Nice.

Its my friend's problem, i let her use the word "I" here so that she can elaborate well her problem and trying to find answer. i didnt get an answered when she used the word "I", instead i get a lot of answer from you guys when i refer the word "question from my friend" I am so much thankful to you guys who are very concern and feel for my friend. I appreciate so much your help and advice.

One thing for sure, she and her petitioner decide to show the first divorce decree on her up coming interview, she would prefer to say "twice" and if they ask why the petitioner didnt include it on I-129F and G-325A it because the petitioner thought it was only the most recent divorced that needs to put and that time he needs to fly back to iraq for work. however its good that the petitioner is willing to present the first divorced paper on the interview.

It was said that the packet is already in the Consulate for her up coming interview. they decide that they need to correct and show evidences to fill in the blanks.

her petitioner would like to give her fiance a new I-129F and G-325A completed and signed and notarized it and wrote the first and second divorced name of previous spouses and with the two divorced decree together to show it on her interview.

a waiver or statement and notarized it indicating that the missing name for first marriage and the first divorced decree is unintentional so that once they will ask for it, the fiance can show it directly to the consulate, on her interview.

Any advice/suggestions?

Thank you.

Now you are confusing yourself. Read your second sentence. "I didn't get answered when I let her use the word 'I'". It would be so much easier if everyone told the truth and provided the necessary documents.

OK, I really don't care if you, your friend or the man on the moon want to lie to the State department and USCIS. Makes absolutely no difference in my life. Well, maybe it does, since then the honest people have to wait longer while they check out your friend's complicated can of fraudulent worms. But on the chance someone else can learn from this....

There is no "waiver" for concealing prior marriages and not providing necessary documents. The visa for "you" if I may use that word, or your friend, will at minimum be denied, the case sent back to USCIS and at minimum be re-adjudicated. That means your friend and her fiance get to start over, at minimum.

A "new I-129f and G-325a" cannot just be given to his fiancee and presented at the interview. The consulate does not adjudicate petitions. There is one way, and one way only, to do this legally. Be it you, your friend or whoever....

Cancel the upcoming interview. Withdraw the existing petition. Start over with a new petition. At that time, your friend's dumb@ss fiance can explain himself to the USCIS when a second divorce shows up on his petition. This is NOT your friend's problem, it is her fiance's problem. If she goes along with it and is complicit in it, it BECOMES her problem.

That is just the technical aspect. Your friend is engaged to a man that did not care enough about her to follow the rules, step by step, item by item to achieve the final goal of being together with the woman he loves. They plan to marry for life, yet her fiance rushes things through, does not get a necessary document, puts the enitre process at risk and risks his future and hers over a divorce decree that can be obtained in a matter of weeks...tops, probably much sooner. In my opinion the guy is, at least, complete self-centered dumb@ss who considers you..oops, your friend, a disposable asset. Maybe much more than a missing document should be considered here, that is if anything about this relationship is legitimate. It may just be your friend wants a green card and her fiance wants a temporary sex toy, all the same to me.

[rebeccajo 14]

Men are so silly.

If it were me, and I were the friend, I'd want to see the first divorce decree just to make sure it really happened.

And that is probably what this post is all about..........

But men are so silly...........

[kilipit 0]

I have a Questions for today from a friend.

Wow, what a coincidence! Your friend's situation sounds just like the situation you described for yourself here:

http://www.visajourney.com/forums/index.ph...t&p=2931283

Even the lengths of the two marriages and time since divorce are the same. Fancy that!

Ok, I'm going to say to your "friend" the same thing I said to you in the other thread. My attorney told me that the consulate in my fiancee's country has an investigations unit, and the investigators there often purchase background checks on the petitioner from private firms like Choicepoint. Apparently, it's less expensive than actually doing the background checks themselves. The purpose of the checks is to dig up information "not known to USCIS at the time the original petition was filed". This last part is important, because it is the foundation of most applications denied by the consulate under 221(g). The background checks usually include the results of a search through public records. That search will usually reveal previous a previous marriage or divorce.

Not every embassy or consulate does these investigations, and you didn't tell us which country was involved. So, the questions are...

Can the consulate find out about the previous divorce? The answer is yes. Will the consulate find out? The answer is unknown, but you should assume that they will. If you don't reveal the first divorce and the consulate finds out, then there are only two possible outcomes, and both are potentially bad. If they ask you if he was married twice and you say "yes", then they're going to want to know what it wasn't declared. At the least, they'll want the documentation for the first marriage. At the most, your application will be denied for misrepresentation. If you say "no", your application will be probably be denied for misrepresentation.

Once your application is denied for misrepresentation then you'll be barred from coming to the US unless you can get a waiver.

Your fiance's excuse about not being able to get the documentation for the first marriage because he was out of the country is weak. Unlike birth certificates, many states maintain these records at the county level rather than the state level, but most counties that I'm aware of don't require you to be physically present in their office to order a certified copy of a divorce decree. I got a copy of the divorce decree for my first marriage by writing a simple one-page request letter, and including a photocopy of my driver's license and a check for $2. I live 2000 miles away from the county where the divorce took place. Your fiance could have easily done this while he was in Iraq.

Oh #######.

Ok listen, and I just read your post again where you say he did not list the first marriage on the G-325a so I can absolutely say he did not list on the I-129f. If this story is true, and now I question that, you are both playing with fire. My advice is abandon this attempt at fraud and start all over with a properly filed petition.

By the way, I got my divorce decree about the same way and did not need a copy of the drivers license! It was the easiest of the documents to obtain.

And not to pick on any one nationality, but these types of posts ALWAYS seem to come from Phillipines. What's up with that? Multiple posts from various member names about the same problem or "freinds" trying to slip around one rule or another. You realize it is why this is a difficult process for legitimate couples with SO in the Phillipines? Nice.

Its my friend's problem, i let her use the word "I" here so that she can elaborate well her problem and trying to find answer. i didnt get an answered when she used the word "I", instead i get a lot of answer from you guys when i refer the word "question from my friend" I am so much thankful to you guys who are very concern and feel for my friend. I appreciate so much your help and advice.

One thing for sure, she and her petitioner decide to show the first divorce decree on her up coming interview, she would prefer to say "twice" and if they ask why the petitioner didnt include it on I-129F and G-325A it because the petitioner thought it was only the most recent divorced that needs to put and that time he needs to fly back to iraq for work. however its good that the petitioner is willing to present the first divorced paper on the interview.

It was said that the packet is already in the Consulate for her up coming interview. they decide that they need to correct and show evidences to fill in the blanks.

her petitioner would like to give her fiance a new I-129F and G-325A completed and signed and notarized it and wrote the first and second divorced name of previous spouses and with the two divorced decree together to show it on her interview.

a waiver or statement and notarized it indicating that the missing name for first marriage and the first divorced decree is unintentional so that once they will ask for it, the fiance can show it directly to the consulate, on her interview.

Any advice/suggestions?

Thank you.

Now you are confusing yourself. Read your second sentence. "I didn't get answered when I let her use the word 'I'". It would be so much easier if everyone told the truth and provided the necessary documents.

OK, I really don't care if you, your friend or the man on the moon want to lie to the State department and USCIS. Makes absolutely no difference in my life. Well, maybe it does, since then the honest people have to wait longer while they check out your friend's complicated can of fraudulent worms. But on the chance someone else can learn from this....

There is no "waiver" for concealing prior marriages and not providing necessary documents. The visa for "you" if I may use that word, or your friend, will at minimum be denied, the case sent back to USCIS and at minimum be re-adjudicated. That means your friend and her fiance get to start over, at minimum.

A "new I-129f and G-325a" cannot just be given to his fiancee and presented at the interview. The consulate does not adjudicate petitions. There is one way, and one way only, to do this legally. Be it you, your friend or whoever....

Cancel the upcoming interview. Withdraw the existing petition. Start over with a new petition. At that time, your friend's dumb@ss fiance can explain himself to the USCIS when a second divorce shows up on his petition. This is NOT your friend's problem, it is her fiance's problem. If she goes along with it and is complicit in it, it BECOMES her problem.

That is just the technical aspect. Your friend is engaged to a man that did not care enough about her to follow the rules, step by step, item by item to achieve the final goal of being together with the woman he loves. They plan to marry for life, yet her fiance rushes things through, does not get a necessary document, puts the enitre process at risk and risks his future and hers over a divorce decree that can be obtained in a matter of weeks...tops, probably much sooner. In my opinion the guy is, at least, complete self-centered dumb@ss who considers you..oops, your friend, a disposable asset. Maybe much more than a missing document should be considered here, that is if anything about this relationship is legitimate. It may just be your friend wants a green card and her fiance wants a temporary sex toy, all the same to me.

Comment.. its not advisable to cancel upcoming interview, again there's an appeal, who knows she can have her visa, she get too much judgment here which is not good for some who experiencing problem during process. be gentle for some words.

[Bobby+Umit 161]

Men are so silly.

If it were me, and I were the friend, I'd want to see the first divorce decree just to make sure it really happened.

And that is probably what this post is all about..........

But men are so silly...........

I am not silly...

I would ask to see all paperwork to make sure the person was legally available to marry...

[rebeccajo 14]

Men are so silly.

If it were me, and I were the friend, I'd want to see the first divorce decree just to make sure it really happened.

And that is probably what this post is all about..........

But men are so silly...........

I am not silly...

I would ask to see all paperwork to make sure the person was legally available to marry...

My comments were most tongue-in-cheek, Bobby..........

[baron555 934]

I ordered up my certified divorce decree online. They do have Internet access in Iraq.

[Perry/Elena 0]

Well it is my understanding after being married to a Filipina for 21 years and seeing family members in bad marriages.....

you really can not get a divorce in the Philippines only an anullment...

That is why you see this from the PI. Want to get married again... no problem... a little grease... here is your licence...