Message from ScottishHighlands

[Vagina Journey 0]

[GaryC 7]

Let him rant. I just got my IMBRA RFE today. I will fill it out, send it in and then my petition will procede as before. IMBRA does not stop honest people from bringing in their loved ones. It only informs the fiance of a dangerous USC. The only ones that have anything to worry about are the criminals that have something to hide. I wonder if that is why he is so upset? Just wondering, not accusing.

[Lestat 0]

Let him rant. I just got my IMBRA RFE today. I will fill it out, send it in and then my petition will procede as before. IMBRA does not stop honest people from bringing in their loved ones. It only informs the fiance of a dangerous USC. The only ones that have anything to worry about are the criminals that have something to hide. I wonder if that is why he is so upset? Just wondering, not accusing.

Gary, I hope you are right about IMBRA not stopping honest people from bringing in their loved ones. But I don't think anyone knows for sure how long of a delay this will cause and how many marriages will be sabotaged as result of IMBRA. My understanding is that 11,000 visa petitions are on hold "indefinitely". I hope this will not translate into 1 or 2 year delays, in which case, I can see a good number of engagements being broken off.............................................................................

......................................................... This IMBRA is so vague, overly broad and poorly written that its implementation has been a nightmare, as expected. Now, I am sure that the IMBRA proponents realized this, but they pushed it through Congress anyway and unfortunately, it is having the desired effect of "chilling" international romances. IMBRA seems like a scornful feminist agenda designed to keep older, wealthier American men from marrying a much younger foreign woman.

[tigretigre 0]

Well, I guess as a scornful feminist myself, my problem with Jim & Co. waxing political on this forum is that we're all supposed to be here to share support and be a resource for one another. All of us. Male and female. Yet I get the feeling that if I post needing help or support, Jim & Co. will probably just call me fat and ugly, blame me for all the things they don't like about the world, and tell me that if I really want to do something besides feeling sorry for myself, I should fight radical feminism and support the God-given right of American men to marry foreign women because men are the ones who are really being treated unfairly.

No offense to the American guys here--I like you and everything. My dad and my brother are both American men and they're awesome. But my own man is always first with me, and that's what I'm thinking about when I get frustrated about IMBRA--not about whether you are being deprived of right to marry women foreign women.

And I don't really care about whether women in other countries might be younger or prettier than I am, either. I don't care if American men would rather marry one of them, than a fat-bottomed brunette American gal like me. Hell, you can marry ostriches or wheelbarrows as far as I'm concerned, if that will make you happy.

I just don't want my government jerking me and my sweetheart around--and on my tab, yet!

You know what I mean? Yeah, I thought so, because I know you're going through the same thing right now! I come here to talk to people who know what I'm going through, just like you do--not to get involved in some gender war. And I don't think that Jim & Co. really get that about this forum.

Can Jim and his friends show me that I'm wrong about them? If they can't, I think we'd all prefer it if they stayed on their own forum, where people log on for the purpose of hearing their views.

[meauxna 15]

tigre, te amo.

I want you to be my lawyer when I need one.

[EnglishGarden 0]

[Well, I guess as a scornful feminist myself, my problem with Jim & Co. waxing political on this forum is that we're all supposed to be here to share support and be a resource for one another. All of us. Male and female. Yet I get the feeling that if I post needing help or support, Jim & Co. will probably just call me fat and ugly]

Tigre: Jim would be the first to help you find a free lawyer to sue the government so Dan can come from England. It is nonsense to see anything misogynist in what he wrote (he cannot stand American victim feminists but who can?). Fact is the victim feminists, a significant minority of mostly those over 40, got the IMBRA law passed because they are insecure about men their own age taking younger partners. Go to other forums and these activists will confirm this to you. The law was a cry in the dark. But the strange politics of the Iraq War and the crucial "Security Mom" support for the war has created a volatile situation where men who date foreign women are under heavy attack. Since this includes US soldiers who are among the biggest customers of "mail order bride sites"...there is going to be backlash.

And women here are "victims" of IMBRA. It doesn't help the spirit of "helping each other" to then distance yourself from men who use marriage agencies and say that you don't care about them. You are in the same boat. Gay men who want their gay partners to come from England...are also in the same boat.

Also...it is the 4th of July Weekend. Jim is going to be the next 10 days in Europe and then he will be busy with the upcoming lawsuit against the IMBRA form. So regulars here who didn't agree with him shouldn't flatter themselves with talk of who "deserves" to be here or not.

One thing Jim never does on any IMBRA forum is personally insult anyone else on the forum. The moment someone personally insults another on a forum, it means he or she has lost an argument and wants to settle it by other means.

[EnglishGarden 0]

[it only informs the fiance of a dangerous USC. The only ones that have anything to worry about are the criminals that have something to hide.]

We could only wish that it "ONLY" informs the fiance of a "dangerous" USC.

But doesn't it also "inform" the fiance that they met on an IMB?

Don't you think she knows where she met the guy?

Apparently, the government feels the need to remind the foreign woman how she met him.

Otherwise the IMB question has a more sinister meaning. It is meant as an advance threat to any American man thinking of meeting someone on the Internet...and thus the whole law chills the atmosphere of seeking foreign relationships.

And a six month background check on the American applicant? US Army Intelligence bacground checks are less than that. The law is, therefore, designed to discourage foreign marriages. Nobody who travels to Russia has a criminal record by definition, unless they lie to the Russian government.

IMBRA can be rewritten quite easily:

1) No question on the visa form about IMB or not.

2) Very short background check on American visa applicant

3) IMB must do Sex Offender check but NOT have to do the impossible and get individual approval from women who don't have email before giving her phone number to a man.

4) Government recognizes that non-fraudulent foreign marriages are good for the country and vows to speed up the visa processes overall.

With the changes, the law wouldn't face serious challenges.

Edited June 30, 2006 by EnglishGarden

[Ban Hammer 13,342]

If it's just a name you chose because it was being discussed that day, why have all of your posts going back to May 30 all been on this topic? You don't post on any other topic.

now that you mention it, that does seem odd

[EnglishGarden 0]

Charles: You say that seems odd and yet, in another thread you flame someone who was simply stating the truth that IMBRA advocates who don't have foreign mates are on this website to try to influence you NOT to write your Congressman to complain about the IMBRA law itself. ;-)

IMBRA2005 wanted you to complain only that the law hasn't been implemented fast enough.

Do you see any bias there. ;-)

[Captain Ewok 1,891]

EnglishGarden = ScottishHighlands

I have no problem with people giving their opinions but creating multiple accounts (=spam) is a violation of the TOS.

[Vagina Journey 0]

EnglishGarden = ScottishHighlands

I have no problem with people giving their opinions but creating multiple accounts (=spam) is a violation of the TOS.

TOSS that Salad Captain