Message from ScottishHighlands

[Imbra2005 0]

The following are two messages that ScottishHighlands just left on Gary Bala's blog. I hope you find them as interesting as I did.

Jim Peterson wrote:

Why is nobody else at http://www.visajourney.com?

VisaJourney.com needs to have anti-IMBRA posting every day.

There is a major discussion going on now about the Cumberland Times article.

29/06 07:35:46

Jim Peterson wrote:

Guys,

Don't come on the visajourney.com forum too strongly, but please do register and give an opinion. Dave Root started a thread and I find myself the only one there who is talking sense.

You see, many men there want so much their fiances to be accepted that they are willing to distance themselves from men who actually used an IMB. They distancing themselves but they are cutting off their own noses to spite their faces.

Cowards!

The women are outright feminists who support IMBRA and then expect someone to cry boo hoo that their french guy cannot get into the USA.

29/06 08:50:12

[GaryC 7]

Ok, then it's a tag team troll post then. That explains it.

How about it Captain Ewok? Me thinks me smells a dirty troll!

[no name 1]

Ok, then it's a tag team troll post then. That explains it.

How about it Captain Ewok? Me thinks me smells a dirty troll!

I didn't bother reading except I find it just stupid that his name is IMBRA 2005 when it passed in 2006. Duh.

Edited June 29, 2006 by devilette

[GaryC 7]

Nah!!! I am not talking about IMBRA2005!!!!! I am talking about Dave858 and ScottishHighlands!!

[john_and_marlene 162]

Ok, then it's a tag team troll post then. That explains it.

How about it Captain Ewok? Me thinks me smells a dirty troll!

Which one is the troll? I see 2 IDs bent on posting their strong opinions regarding this. If you are defining a troll by signing up just to post extreme positions about this single topic, then I see 2 trolls.

[no name 1]

Nah!!! I am not talking about IMBRA2005!!!!! I am talking about Dave858 and ScottishHighlands!!

OK, well - it still applies!

[Imbra2005 0]

Ok, then it's a tag team troll post then. That explains it.

How about it Captain Ewok? Me thinks me smells a dirty troll!

I didn't bother reading except I find it just stupid that his name is IMBRA 2005 when it passed in 2006. Duh.

Actually, it's called the "International Marriage Broker Regulation Act of 2005." It was passed by Congress in December 2005, but not signed by the president until January 2006.

(oh, and thanks, Gary!)

[john_and_marlene 162]

I only see one of them starting a thread to stir up action against the other.

[Imbra2005 0]

Here is wikipedia's definition of "troll":

In Internet terminology, a troll is someone who comes into an established community such as an online discussion forum, and posts inflammatory, rude, repetitive or offensive messages designed intentionally to annoy and antagonize the existing members or disrupt the flow of discussion.

Honestly, and in my own defense, I don't think that describes me or my contributions to this forum over the past month or so. I did, however, seek to expose someone who signed up yesterday for what he is.

But if I'm truly not welcome here, then I have no desire to stay.

Edited June 29, 2006 by Imbra2005

[john_and_marlene 162]

Here is wikipedia's definition of "troll":

In Internet terminology, a troll is someone who comes into an established community such as an online discussion forum, and posts inflammatory, rude, repetitive or offensive messages designed intentionally to annoy and antagonize the existing members or disrupt the flow of discussion.

Honestly, and in my own defense, I don't think that describes me or my contributions to this forum.

But if I'm truly not welcome here, then I have no desire to stay.

I think it applies to you both.

[ScottishHighlands 0]

Let's face it: IMBRA2005 does not have a boyfriend or fiance who might be affected by IMBRA.

She is here to lobby her cause which is the acceptance of IMBRA by those who want visas.

I suspect that she is with the TJC which got the law written and passed.

There is no problem with her being here to lobby her views. There is a problem if she is creating extra identities for herself.

Meanwhile, the half dozen guys at another IMBRA forum do have a right to come here and argue with her.

Ms. Miller (AKA IMBRA2005) has been using the VisaJourney forum to personally insult those who disagree with the IMBRA law and wish to launch lawsuits against it.

She is using the weak debating strategy of not dealing with the issues and just trying to whip up "everyone here thinks you are wrong"...when she doesn't even have a foreign boyfriend or fiance.

The men and women at GaryBala.com, who are also trying to get foreigners into the USA, almost have more of a right to come give their views on this forum than a member of the organization that wrote IMBRA.

I am about to propose to a Russian woman. I just found this website. I have as much moral right to post at VisaJourney as someone who has been here for two months. So do the 4 or 5 friends I know from GaryBala.com.

This thread only shows that IMBRA2005 is a professional who is perusing the anti-IMBRA blogs.

IMBRA2005 has a mission to influence VisaJourney.com members despite her not having a fiance or foreign boyfriend herself.

Edited June 29, 2006 by ScottishHighlands

[Imbra2005 0]

Well, I think what I was doing in starting this thread was to post the evidence (for the rest of the community to ultimately decide) that tends to demonstrate ScottishHighlands was in fact posting "messages designed intentionally to annoy and antagonize the existing members." He so much as admitted it in the post that I cut and pasted.

I just don't think I've done that, I'm sorry. I have consistently provided truthful information with references for verification. I admit, it's a controversial topic, but nothing I've posted had the intended purpose of annoying or antagonizing existing members. That's the difference.

If I'm wrong about this, then I would appreciate someone explaining to me what line I crossed and where. Thanks.

[TracyTN 237]

[GaryC 7]

Well Scotishhighlands, or should I say Jim Peterson, it seems you have been outed. Take your activist BS and go back to your own forum. Don't post a "anti-IMBRA" post each day, don't urge others in your group to do the same. We are all painfully aware of the origins and ramifications of IMBRA. We will each do what we feel is right and we don't need or want you here to stir things up.

[seldi 1]

Let's face it: IMBRA2005 does not have a boyfriend or fiance who might be affected by IMBRA.

She is here to lobby her cause which is the acceptance of IMBRA by those who want visas.

I suspect that she is with the TJC which got the law written and passed.

There is no problem with her being here to lobby her views. There is a problem if she is creating extra identities for herself.

Meanwhile, the half dozen guys at another IMBRA forum do have a right to come here and argue with her.

Ms. Miller (AKA IMBRA2005) has been using the VisaJourney forum to personally insult those who disagree with the IMBRA law and wish to launch lawsuits against it.

She is using the weak debating strategy of not dealing with the issues and just trying to whip up "everyone here thinks you are wrong"...when she doesn't even have a foreign boyfriend or fiance.

The men and women at GaryBala.com, who are also trying to get foreigners into the USA, almost have more of a right to come give their views on this forum than a member of the organization that wrote IMBRA.

I am about to propose to a Russian woman. I just found this website. I have as much moral right to post at VisaJourney as someone who has been here for two months. So do the 4 or 5 friends I know from GaryBala.com.

This thread only shows that IMBRA2005 is a professional who is perusing the anti-IMBRA blogs.

IMBRA2005 has a mission to influence VisaJourney.com members despite her not having a fiance or foreign boyfriend herself.